Is it harder to talk to women about philosophy and religion?

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Mtatum1958 said:
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Juansavage:
I don’t think that’s the whole explanation since I’m usually very polite and merely explain things from a philosophical/ reason perspective. I don’t think I get the same reaction from men.
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Perhaps it comes down to the very real difference between men and women. It can be a over generalization, but I have seen it individually and it groups. Have you ever tried approaching them with ideas based on personal and emotional experiences of faith? More so in groups, I see men and women gravitating toward their own sex; men talking, arguing, and sharing the reasons and women sharing how they personally encounter Christ.
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Yes. I’m going to stop trusting in reason and arguments and just be a good example. This is a serious response and not a joke.
 
Juansavage said:
they react very emotionally and negatively no matter how gently and reasonably delivered.
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If you’d like to see men reacting negatively and emotionally, click on the upper-left hand magnifying glass and enter search terms like “lust,” “modesty,” “woke,” and “SJW.” Or head on over to one of those OF-vs-EF threads.

In all seriousness, it’s not a uniquely girly-girl thing. Men and women alike have been hurt by religion. I can stay up all night discussing philosophy and theology. But for anybody - male or female - who may have been hurt by or otherwise had a bad experience with religion, it’s best to approach the topic gingerly and compassionately. Other times, you just need to be patient. People get a lot of misunderstandings and misinformation about Catholicism.

May I ask how old you are? Sometimes you can grow together, and the relationship has a future. If you’re at an impasse and not hearing each other, you may want to question you future together.
Pattylt said:
So, there are no true Catholics that have had an abortion? I’d think deeply on that if I were you.
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Oh, any Catholic whose heard of Rachel’s Vineyard knows darn well that there are Catholic women who’ve had abortions.
 
Juansavage said:
I don’t push my faith, but when the topic comes up, I contribute. It seems that when non-Catholic women encounter an argument for Christianity they react very emotionally and negatively no matter how gently and reasonably delivered.

Your experience?
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Wow. Just…wow.
 
Maybe they have had abortions and repented. But, by definition, Catholics who are okay with abortion are not orthodox Catholics and, for all practical purposes, are not Catholics. Yes, the indelible mark of baptism is there, but, when it comes to picking a spouse, you have to make sure your values actually align.
 
Juansavage said:
Your experience?
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If it is philosophy, it depends. Some young women do not like philosophy, but there are a few who major in philosophy. Take a couple of courses in philosophy and I think you will find several young women who are interesting to talk to.
There are several different areas in philosophy. Epistemology, metaphysics, logic, ancient philosophy, medieval, modern, deconstructionism, existentialism, phikosophy of Hinduism, or of Buddhism, etc. What area of philosophy are you interested in? What have you read?
 
Juansavage said:
Yes. I’m going to stop trusting in reason and arguments and just be a good example. This is a serious response and not a joke.
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I believe you are not joking. No, you cannot throw reason out than another can discard emotion. It just comes down to sharing in the manner another can receive.
 
redbetta said:
But, by definition, Catholics who are okay with abortion are not orthodox Catholics
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I agree if they say they support abortion but you’d be amazed (or not) at what women will justify doing when they discover they are pregnant.
 
If they continue to justify and will not confess it, they are not orthodox Catholics even if they continue to be outwardly against it.
 
Many women find Christianity to be misogynistic. The origin of the faith doesn’t matter much. It is today’s Christianity they object to.
They also don’t like to be mansplained to. And if your discussion contains both conditions, you aren’t going to have a good time let’s just say.
 
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I’m 51. She’s 52, but coy about it (internet research). She grew up in the Soviet Union. She had no religion.
 
QwertyGirl said:
Many women find Christianity to be mysogynistic. The origin of the faith doesn’t matter much. It is today’s Christianity they object to.
They also don’t like to be mansplained to. And if your discussion contains both conditions, you aren’t going to have a good time let’s just say.
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A lot of misogynistic views have to do with where the women received education, what they read, heard and watched (books, songs, tv shows). The same women who wouldn’t like Mansplaining, wouldn’t like Womensplaining either.
 
I vote this as one of the worst all around threads I’ve seen on this forum. But hey if this is what floats people’s boats then enjoy. As for me I’m outta here.
 
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Boy, if you think this is bad, you ain’t seen nothing yet.

This is a civil thread for such a politically incorrect question.
 
The OP and his girlfriend are in their 50s. So probably not the biggest concerns.
 
bookshelf said:
A lot of misogynistic views have to do with where the women received education, what they read, heard and watched (books, songs, tv shows).
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My experience is that it is usually rooted in feeling they aren’t respected, due to their sex, and are held back because they are often times prevented (beyond their control) from taking the same opportunities men take.
 
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It’s hard, that’s for sure. Women aren’t cerebrally equipped for the more scholarly pursuits. They just don’t understand. As men, we are called to be patient and guide them in their spiritual and intellectual lives.

[I’m sorry. I’m so sorry. But I just couldn’t let it go. 😇]
 
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