Is it just me or do most Catholics recieve Communion wrongly

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I’m not trying to be rude here however I have noticed this as a trend. I have not met many Catholics who normally attend Confession. I don’t know about you, however I don’t know any one who doesn’t have a Mortal Sin at least once and awhile. Furthermore, many Catholics don’t believe in Transubstantiation. It’s unfortunate. I’m not judging however I think that people should inform these people of their sin.
 
holdencaulfield said:
I’m not trying to be rude here however I have noticed this as a trend. I have not met many Catholics who normally attend Confession. I don’t know about you, however I don’t know any one who doesn’t have a Mortal Sin at least once and awhile. Furthermore, many Catholics don’t believe in Transubstantiation. It’s unfortunate. I’m not judging however I think that people should inform these people of their sin.
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I don’t know if the word is receiving “wrongly” (for a minute, I thought this post was about Communion in the hand). But if they don’t believe in the Blessed Sacrament as what it is (i.e. the Body and Blood of Our Lord - mystery that it is) - I guess the question is WHY are those people going to the altar at all? For show? Do they realize what they’re doing would be a question to reckon with. That’s really sad - and scarey.

I think that we don’t hear Church teachers (be they prelates or catechism instructors) firmly teaching our Faith or the rules we should abide by to practice it. It’s that leniency or laxity of firm teaching which causes a slippery-slide into laxity of practicing our Faith.
 
You’re right. There are many who appear to not believe in the Real Presence, and would appear to not attend Confession when they ought to. I pity them.
 
In all of the traditional parishes I have been to, the majority of the parishioners appear to regularly attend confession - and the priests frequently remind them to do so. They also all believe in the transubstantiation as far as I have gathered by talking to them.

It seems to me that perhaps the problem might be solved not be telling people off, but by rectifying a far greater problem which is more likely the root of this. Poor catechesis in recent years through the Mass and abuses that have become the norm.
 
It’s always an act of mercy to correct the sinner. Just remember, when reproving others, it’s always good to remember this traditional advice:

“It is often our own imperfections which makes us reprove the imperfections of others;- a sharp-sighted self-love of our own which cannot pardon the self-love of others. The passions of other men seem insupportable to him who is governed by his own. Divine charity make great allowances for the weaknesses of others, bears with them, and treats them with gentleness and condescension. It is never over-hasty in its proceeding. The less we have of self-love, the more easily we accommodate ourselves to the imperfection of others, in order to cure them patiently, when the right season arrives for it. Imperfect virtue is apt to be sour, severe and implacable. Perfect virtue is meek, affable, and compassionate. It thinks of nothing but doing good, bearing others burdens.”

Francois de Salignac de la Mothe-Fenelon, Archbishop of Cambrai

I just wanted to add that this is not the first time in history that it seemed “most Catholics” were apathetic or even worse–so don’t let that get you down or make you despair or anything–it’s not to down play the seriousness of the times when divine charity grows cold, but rather to gain some perspective that aids in sustaining divine hope and remembering not to lose faith when it appears the Divine Helmsman is asleep in the boat. 🙂
 
agr4028 said:
I’m reminded of the passage of planks and specks.
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How ironic that someone wants to, in a round-about way, say judge not lest ye be judged. But I openly ask the question are we, as a congregation supposed to allow the disrespect and repetitive sin against our host by idly sitting by and not speaking up? Isn’t it a mortal sin to take communion knowing one has sinned?

Personally, I cannot stand those who take the host without confession. I will not believe that when every single member of the church goes up and takes confession, they’re all without sin. And yes, I notice because I am not taking communion (if I didn’t confess) and can see the pews empty.
 
agr4028 said:
I’m reminded of the passage of planks and specks.
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And yet you felt the need to chime and in and “remind” people they shouldn’t say anything. Essentially, you corrected them.

That’s ironic…
 
TemplarKnight said:
Personally, I cannot stand those who take the host without confession. I will not believe that when every single member of the church goes up and takes confession, they’re all without sin. And yes, I notice because I am not taking communion (if I didn’t confess) and can see the pews empty.
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First of all…how do*** you ***know they are not going to Confession? Are you with them 24/7? Is it not possible that they might go to Confession at ***another ***Church? My parish where I am registered then must think I never go to Confession when I approach for Holy Communion because I always go to the TLM where I attend daily Mass. You don’t have to go to Confession at any given church you know.

BTW…you do not “take” the host you “receive” the Holy Eucharist.
 
He_Man said:
And yet you felt the need to chime and in and “remind” people they shouldn’t say anything. Essentially, you corrected them.

That’s ironic…
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What is ironic, is judgemental people getting on their high horse when someone questions their judgemental motives

Perhaps instead of sitting in church judging others worthiness of the Blessed Sacrement, we might be more concerned with our own worthiness of same.
 
BlyssfulDreamer said:
First of all…how do*** you ***know they are not going to Confession? Are you with them 24/7? Is it not possible that they might go to Confession at ***another ***Church? My parish where I am registered then must think I never go to Confession when I approach for Holy Communion because I always go to the TLM where I attend daily Mass. You don’t have to go to Confession at any given church you know.

BTW…you do not “take” the host you “receive” the Holy Eucharist.
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How do I know? It’s called knowing my congregation. It’s called knowing that there is not another Catholic church for many miles. It’s knowing who and who does not leave the area. It’s knowing the community I live in.

It’s also called the law of averages. I can guarantee you that out of a few hundred parishioners who rise up and RECEIVE communion, that not EVERY one is without sin. Day in and day out, 7 days a week.

BTW-if you want to play semantics police, we can do that.
 
TemplarKnight said:
How do I know? It’s called knowing my congregation. It’s called knowing that there is not another Catholic church for many miles. It’s knowing who and who does not leave the area. It’s knowing the community I live in.

It’s also called the law of averages. I can guarantee you that out of a few hundred parishioners who rise up and RECEIVE communion, that not EVERY one is without sin. Day in and day out, 7 days a week.

BTW-if you want to play semantics police, we can do that.
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I’m sorry sir, but that is not for you or I to cast judgement upon. A priest may refuse Communion to someone he knows to be in a state of mortal sin. But that is not for us to dissemenate, semantics or otherwise.
 
TemplarKnight said:
How do I know? It’s called knowing my congregation. It’s called knowing that there is not another Catholic church for many miles. It’s knowing who and who does not leave the area. It’s knowing the community I live in.

It’s also called the law of averages. I can guarantee you that out of a few hundred parishioners who rise up and RECEIVE communion, that not EVERY one is without sin. Day in and day out, 7 days a week.

BTW-if you want to play semantics police, we can do that.
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Pride is also a sin.
 
agr4028 said:
What is ironic, is judgemental people getting on their high horse when someone questions their judgemental motives

Perhaps instead of sitting in church judging others worthiness of the Blessed Sacrement, we might be more concerned with our own worthiness of same.
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Yes, you’re right. Let’s not remind people that they are sinning, let’s forget about them disrespecting the Holy Eucharist. Let’s let them do anything they want because we are sinners too. Yes, that makes perfect sense.
 
agr4028 said:
What is ironic, is judgemental people getting on their high horse when someone questions their judgemental motives

Perhaps instead of sitting in church judging others worthiness of the Blessed Sacrement, we might be more concerned with our own worthiness of same.
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Hey, I’m not advocating judging anyone in that sense, but I just found it ironic you are passing judgement on people who are passing judgement. By your own logic, you can’t do that.

That is the problem with that oft quoted scripture passage. People who use it catch themselves in their own net, and it disqualies them from being able to chastize ANYONE.
 
agr4028 said:
I’m sorry sir, but that is not for you or I to cast judgement upon. A priest may refuse Communion to someone he knows to be in a state of mortal sin. But that is not for us to dissemenate, semantics or otherwise.
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I’m not “judging” anyone. I am stating a fact.

And the “semantics” was for the “take” vs. “receive”.
 
agr4028 said:
Pride is also a sin.
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Let he without sin cast the first stone. So maybe, since I am a lowly and humble sinner myself, I should never try and help my fellow man-along with helping myself-because I have no “right” for I would be a hypocrite. I am worthy of receiving chastising as well as reminding others of their faults. The two way street allows us to support each other and lean on each other when fighting sin may be tough. But I’m not going to allow my sin to be a green light for everyone to think it “OK” to continue because no one is reminding them of their sins.
 
I “know” that two of my coworkers receive Communion wrongly because we have talked about it. In fact, I had a discussion with one just yesterday. She was telling me of how she went to confession before Easter for the first time in ages, yet I know she goes to Mass on occasion and always receives. She told me that there are Church teachings which she doesn’t agree with, such as ABC, and that she doesn’t confess those things because she doesn’t think they are wrong and she has no intention of changing her ways. The other one is a cradle Catholic who married a Lutheran man and has gone to the Lutheran church for years. She brings her elderly, disabled mother to the Saturday vigil Mass and they sit in the front pew, and when the EMHC comes by, I have witnessed her receiving Communion right along with her mother. I don’t judge these people, but I do try to instruct them in gentle conversation and by setting a good example. And I pray that their eyes might be opened to the truth.
 
TemplarKnight said:
How do I know? It’s called knowing my congregation. It’s called knowing that there is not another Catholic church for many miles. It’s knowing who and who does not leave the area. It’s knowing the community I live in.

It’s also called the law of averages. I can guarantee you that out of a few hundred parishioners who rise up and RECEIVE communion, that not EVERY one is without sin. Day in and day out, 7 days a week.

BTW-if you want to play semantics police, we can do that.
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Unless you are sitting on their laps in the Confessional I would venture to say you do not know whether they have gone to Confession or not. You can talk about the law of averages and make any generalizations you want…you simply are guessing and do not know. Maybe as you go to “receive” Communion you might do well to put your mind on your own thoughts and not worry about those around you .
 
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