Is it ludicrous to think that the world will remain Capitalistic?

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If you do not know what LOVE is, just read the Gospels!

Why can’t maximizing LOVE be a big part of an economic system?
By telling me to read the Gospels, you have not contributed to my better understanding of LOVE. If you shared something about LOVE with me, that would be helpful. Otherwise you are of no help at all.

LOVE is not quantifiable. It cannot be defined precisely enough so that it can be experienced qualitatively the same for everyone. LOVE has no economic value. LOVE is an emotion which is different from one person to the next. Basing ones commercial operations mainly on LOVE is unlikely to be profitable if it results in selling a product for the sake of LOVE rather than for profit. Economics is based on prices and profits, not LOVE.
 
There are plenty of resources in Africa and Asia. Why do you think the Europeans colonized those continents? Problem is, people of Africa and Asia cannot move forward and exploit those resources since they lack a stable society/and or a socio-political-moral philosophy that encourages progress.
Yes, Africa has a lot of resources, but the West has the means of tapping those resources and making the African people self-sufficient.
 
Yes, Africa has a lot of resources, but the West has the means of tapping those resources and making the African people self-sufficient.
The West will tap those resources while keeping Africa dependent on imports. Its the nature of the empire beast.
 
The West will tap those resources while keeping Africa dependent on imports. Its the nature of the empire beast.
And what makes this exploitation possible? Is it capitalism, as I’m suggesting? We need to move away from capitalism and replace it with a economic system that is congruent with LOVE.
 
And what makes this exploitation possible? Is it capitalism, as I’m suggesting? We need to move away from capitalism and replace it with a economic system that is congruent with LOVE.
No. There is no reason to believe that Capitalism is less “loving” than other, more totalitarian forms of government.
 
No. There is no reason to believe that Capitalism is less “loving” than other, more totalitarian forms of government.
How about capitalism breeding greed, power and prestige? Are these attributes congruent with capitalism?
 
How about capitalism breeding greed, power and prestige? Are these attributes congruent with capitalism?
Capitalism is a quid-pro-quo game. With this strategy, an exchange of goods or services is made that amounts to a contract. The person who supplies the good or service has an incentive to get something in return that equals or exceeds the value of the good or service. It also presupposes that the supplier can offer the good or service and not take a loss in the transaction. I suppose that a greedy person will want more for his good or service than is reasonable in a given market. If he is able to convince someone to buy his good or service at an inflated price, and his customer is unaware that the price is inflated, he might be considered greedy.

On the other hand, what is his incentive? To make a profit is the basis of capitalism.
Here are other words for quid-pro-quo:
replacement, substitution; reciprocation, recompense, requital; bargain, deal, horse trade, negotiation, transaction; bargaining, dealing, dickering, haggling, horse trading; logrolling
 
How about capitalism breeding greed, power and prestige? Are these attributes congruent with capitalism?
As opposed to what, Kim Jong Il? Sorry, the Socialist systems have their share of Party elites grabbing power, prestige and material goods.

At least in the Capitalist systems, those who acquire such things have to pay for them.
 
It has been suggested (e.g. in Iain M Banks’ ‘Culture’ series of sci-fi novels) that capitalism, and indeed money itself, will only survive as long as there is a need to ration resources.
It’s actually big government philosophies that ration resources, not capitalism.
So once technology evolves to a sufficiently high level that there is no need to ration land, goods, medical resources and so on, capitalism will be doomed.
Don’t count on that happening anytime soon. And never underestimate the human error in judgement to desire more.

In fact, that’s a reason why people become socialist, thinking they’ll get more.
An alternate view is that the population will always expand to take up the available resources, and that capitalism is the best way to ration those resources…
Capitalism is the best way to prosperity, but it needs a driving conscience. We can’t have such a rigid system where those who lose out are just “out of luck”.
 
How about capitalism breeding greed, power and prestige? Are these attributes congruent with capitalism?
More so with big government than capitalism.

Just look at the failed socialist/communist states.
 
As opposed to what, Kim Jong Il? Sorry, the Socialist systems have their share of Party elites grabbing power, prestige and material goods.

At least in the Capitalist systems, those who acquire such things have to pay for them.
Capitalism utilizes the free market.
 
We can’t have such a rigid system where those who lose out are just “out of luck”.
Why not? Before the invention of agriculture, this is the way humanity lived, and it is the way that primates other than humans live.

The natural law that reigned supreme before the invention of agriculture is the prevailing pattern in hunter/gatherer societies. There is rarely enough surplus in these types of groups to support people who are just “out of luck”. Only after agriculture was invented was it possible to derive enough surplus for widespread altruistic giving.
 
Why not? Before the invention of agriculture, this is the way humanity lived, and it is the way that primates other than humans live.

The natural law that reigned supreme before the invention of agriculture is the prevailing pattern in hunter/gatherer societies. There is rarely enough surplus in these types of groups to support people who are just “out of luck”. Only after agriculture was invented was it possible to derive enough surplus for widespread altruistic giving.
What you’re suggesting is most cruel and primitive!!!
 
Why not? Before the invention of agriculture, this is the way humanity lived, and it is the way that primates other than humans live.

The natural law that reigned supreme before the invention of agriculture is the prevailing pattern in hunter/gatherer societies. There is rarely enough surplus in these types of groups to support people who are just “out of luck”. Only after agriculture was invented was it possible to derive enough surplus for widespread altruistic giving.
Thats why we invented progress.😉

ATB
 
Coming late to this thread, so if someone has already said this, ignore this post.

There is no getting away from capitalism. It’s inevitable in every society, no matter how much one claims to be something else. The differences are in how capital is allocated and used.

Capital itself, is simply “stored value” which is deemed to have utility in further production and consumption. Even hunter-gatherer societies have “capital” in the sense of basic weapons, tools, storage implements, dried food, etc. Capital and labor necessarily interact in production. Labor without capital is largely ineffective. (humans are inherently tool users) Capital without labor is useless. (a hammer at the bottom of the sea produces nothing)

In those societies deemed “more capitalistic”, individuals have relatively more dominion over their capital than in societies that are more statist. The big question of the 20th Century was whether less individual control of capital (more government control) was or was not the more efficient and otherwise desirable way to allocate capital.

The outcome was not favorable for those who opted for centralized or state control of relatively larger portions of the capital generated by the capital/labor combination that generates more capital.

A. Solzhenitsyn made the following, and enlightening observation about the result. He compared the “capitalistic” societies of the West to that of the Soviet Union. He said the West was “…where capital is cheap and labor dear, unlike in the Soviet Union where it’s the other way around.”

So it itsn’t a question whether “capitalism” will or will not survive in the world. It definitely will, failing which virtually every human on earth will starve to death. The real question is how much of it will individuals retain and how much of it will be appropriated by governments.
 
Coming late to this thread, so if someone has already said this, ignore this post.

There is no getting away from capitalism. It’s inevitable in every society, no matter how much one claims to be something else. The differences are in how capital is allocated and used.

Capital itself, is simply “stored value” which is deemed to have utility in further production and consumption. Even hunter-gatherer societies have “capital” in the sense of basic weapons, tools, storage implements, dried food, etc. Capital and labor necessarily interact in production. Labor without capital is largely ineffective. (humans are inherently tool users) Capital without labor is useless. (a hammer at the bottom of the sea produces nothing)

In those societies deemed “more capitalistic”, individuals have relatively more dominion over their capital than in societies that are more statist. The big question of the 20th Century was whether less individual control of capital (more government control) was or was not the more efficient and otherwise desirable way to allocate capital.

The outcome was not favorable for those who opted for centralized or state control of relatively larger portions of the capital generated by the capital/labor combination that generates more capital.

A. Solzhenitsyn made the following, and enlightening observation about the result. He compared the “capitalistic” societies of the West to that of the Soviet Union. He said the West was “…where capital is cheap and labor dear, unlike in the Soviet Union where it’s the other way around.”

So it itsn’t a question whether “capitalism” will or will not survive in the world. It definitely will, failing which virtually every human on earth will starve to death. The real question is how much of it will individuals retain and how much of it will be appropriated by governments.
Just because all economic systems have elements of capitalism is little or no reason to propose it as the dominant system. LOVE needs to be easily cultivated from a successful economic system!
 
Just because all economic systems have elements of capitalism is little or no reason to propose it as the dominant system. LOVE needs to be easily cultivated from a successful economic system!
I think you need to get out of dreamland and give an actual example of the economic system which would promote “love”, as you say.

You are very good at promoting an imaginary, optimistic, perfect world view when no such thing can exist in the real world.
 
I think you need to get out of dreamland and give an actual example of the economic system which would promote “love”, as you say.

You are very good at promoting an imaginary, optimistic, perfect world view when no such thing can exist in the real world.
Could be socialism or distributionism. Or it could be a hybrid system specially built to promote LOVE!
 
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