Is it moral for Catholics to own a bar?

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Apples are fruit. Orangutans are animals.

Wine is a beverage. Paid for sex is nonconsensual sex out of wedlock which is really multiple sins.
 
He is what is commonly referred to as stirring
 
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I know.

His real answer is that the bar needs to order a better manager so they are not over serving people.

But sometimes it is fun to play along with the trolls.
 
Please don’t get this thread closed. It’s not your thread to derail
 
I was going to reply to you in the other thread, but since it was closed I’ll just answer here.

I don’t think it is laudable to own a bar, but since the Church has defined that drinking in moderation is not sinful, owning a place where people drink in moderation is not sinful, either. If the bar in question allows people to “drink themselves to death”, as you put it, then owning or participating in that bar is sinful, because it promotes sin. My point about mocking others for making poor arguments still stands.
 
I haven’t been to many bars, myself, but at least in my country it is illegal for a bar to serve people who are visibly drunk. A bartender could easily enforce moral drinking in this way.
 
Drunk is an ambiguous term, I should perhaps have rephrased myself. There are different phases of being drunk, the aforementioned law coming to effect in the earlier stages. I’m not 100% sure of this next, but I think it is possible to get to that point without commiting mortal sin, though it is certainly pushing it. Anyway you could just restrict the amount of beer someone can buy.
 
Everyone:
Substances are not morally evaluated.
Acts are morally evaluated.

Morality is the evaluation of human acts, not substances. Acts are sinful, not substances.
Alcohol is a substance. It is morally neutral. Likewise marijuana. Marijuana is morally neutral.

Drinking to excess is an act. Serving a patron who is visible impaired is an act. These acts can be morally evaluated as good or evil. They could be sinful (probably are).

A bar is just a thing. Alcohol is a thing.

I hope I’m not being repetitive.
 
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This would be a more fun thread to discuss, if it was
“ Is it moral for monks to make wine and sell “
But to literally own a bar -
Where shady things happen, without question,
Unless it’s run by mafia mobster church goers…

Last week, an Italian mafia family was at church for someone’s memorial mass…
Father was tough, the face, his bearing…
His two sons had to be 6 foot five…
One guy actually had The Godfather logo on the back of his hoodie…
They sat in the third row -
Didn’t know when to sit or stand or kneel 😛
 
Yeah, but at my church,
Many of the people - who know what their doing…
Sit in the back-
Always surprises me…like their chicken to sit closer…
Like nerd tough kids at junior high school class.
 
What is to make in consideration when a practicing catholic want to open a bar, is the fact that he would probably obligated to open the sunday morning and the saturday evening. So he could not probably participate in mass and his integration on the parish would be diffficult.

I have see an adult baptism of a bar owner one day. And this man underline this real problem for him. He was away from the Church for a long time because he can not go to mass…

So I believe that there is few practicing catholics how own a bar, even if it is not immoral in itself.
 
I guess the thing about owning a bar is, are you materially gaining to some degree from people occasionally drinking too much, or who are true alcoholics, who are spending their family’s money on over-priced alcohol? I would think most bars serve a fair number of alcoholics, right? Should a Christian be profiting from that? Would Jesus want you to spend your earthly life like that? Maybe there is a fabulously altruistic and moral way to run a bar… I don’t know…just seems questionable in my opinion.
 
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Do you really love bar? people? possible seduction here? etc.

Do you have really zero problem with alcohol?

There are some of the question you have to pose to ourself?

one bad exemple:
an aunt of my husband who had a problem with alcohol, when she open a bar with her husband.
Poor choice: she is now, at more than her 50’s, divorced, alcoholic, without any job, alienated child, without a home, and in rehabilitation center for her “disease”…
 
Type 2 Early Onset Diabetics shouldn’t open ice cream stands, and alcoholics shouldn’t open bars.

If a person has a problem with gluttony, it is unwise to own a business that sells the products that are temptations to them.

That is why banks run background checks on their tellers. It is not smart to put an embezzler in charge of a bank full of cash.

It is also why pharmacies don’t hire drug addicts.
 
It is in Pennsylvania, or at least it used to be when I lived there.

I believe that it was 51% of sales had to be food.
 
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