Is it moral to hunt animals?

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I have a couple christian friends who spend weekends shooting deer with arrows or bullets, and shooting birds out of the sky with shotguns… all as amusement, recreation, enjoyment.

Is that permissible?
 
Personally I think it’s a bad thing. Hunting when one needs food, or even hunting for sport and using the food is much different than just shooting something in the woods and leaving it to rot. I’m not a fan of sport hunting. I think it’s a shame that we have reduced God’s creation to something as simple as pleasure and bragging rights. 🤷
 
Personally I think it’s a bad thing. Hunting when one needs food, or even hunting for sport and using the food is much different than just shooting something in the woods and leaving it to rot. I’m not a fan of sport hunting. I think it’s a shame that we have reduced God’s creation to something as simple as pleasure and bragging rights. 🤷
I agree, but when I’ve confronted christian hunters about it, they generally say something to the effect, “God put animals here for our use.” 😦

I get hunting for food of course, but when recreational hunters say they eat what they kill, it still sounds more like rationalizing something they know is wrong, since they don’t HAVE to hunt to eat.
 
Personally I think it’s a bad thing. Hunting when one needs food, or even hunting for sport and using the food is much different than just shooting something in the woods and leaving it to rot. I’m not a fan of sport hunting. I think it’s a shame that we have reduced God’s creation to something as simple as pleasure and bragging rights. 🤷
I have to agree, to kill an animal for food is one thing, but if they are not eating what they are shooting, that is a problem to me. Of course if they hunt deer and don’t like venison, maybe they could give it away to those in need? If they posted a small sign on the church board saying they have free venison, I don’t think they will have a problem giving it away. I for one would love some venison to make a nice stew with!
 
I have to agree, to kill an animal for food is one thing, but if they are not eating what they are shooting, that is a problem to me. Of course if they hunt deer and don’t like venison, maybe they could give it away to those in need? If they posted a small sign on the church board saying they have free venison, I don’t think they will have a problem giving it away. I for one would love some venison to make a nice stew with!
I agree with this too. I know one fellow who gave his deer to the local food bank. He had it slaughtered, wrapped and put into coolers and took it to them.
 
I have to agree, to kill an animal for food is one thing, but if they are not eating what they are shooting, that is a problem to me. Of course if they hunt deer and don’t like venison, maybe they could give it away to those in need? If they posted a small sign on the church board saying they have free venison, I don’t think they will have a problem giving it away. I for one would love some venison to make a nice stew with!
Indeed, this kind of thing would make me feel a lot better about hunters and hunting. Helping those in need of food would be a noble act.
 
I agree with this too. I know one fellow who gave his deer to the local food bank. He had it slaughtered, wrapped and put into coolers and took it to them.
Doesn’t “intent” matter?

Sure, it’s nice the kill didn’t go to waste. But I doubt hunters pick up their guns in order to feed the parishioners. They (I assume) kill for the “high” of it, and later do a nice thing with their kills.

And even setting out to kill deer because parishioners enjoy the taste sounds wrong. They don’t HAVE to eat venison. It’s recreational killing to supply recreational eating.
 
Doesn’t “intent” matter?

Sure, it’s nice the kill didn’t go to waste. But I doubt hunters pick up their guns in order to feed the parishioners. They (I assume) kill for the “high” of it, and later do a nice thing with their kills.

And even setting out to kill deer because parishioners enjoy the taste sounds wrong. They don’t HAVE to eat venison. It’s recreational killing to supply recreational eating.
I’m vegan and don’t believe in killing animals for any reason. I still do indeed believe intent has a lot to do with it, but intent is not everything. The moral act is defined by three things. I actually wrote a very detailed blog on eating meat based on the three rules.

The Catechism indicates that every act consists of three moral elements:
objective act (what we do)
subjective goal (intention, why we do it)
concrete situations or cicrumstances (when, where, how, with whom, etc)

Now the objective act is here not morally wrong. Hunting in and of itself is not evil. It can be used for great good to feed a family of starving children, or a family that cannot afford food. In some areas of the world hunting is the only way to get any food at all.

The subjective goal, intention, is indeed important. Doing it for the wrong reasons IS a sin. So yes, intent has everything to do with it.

Concrete situation or circumstance can also make it a sin. How you are hunting, what you are hunting, when you are hunting. Hunting at night in the dark when it’s illegal changes the outlook, even if you are clear on the objective and subjective goal. Hunting out of season. Hunting a squirrel with a rocket launcher, all of which would make it a different and unsavory situation.
 
Concrete situation or circumstance can also make it a sin. How you are hunting, what you are hunting, when you are hunting. Hunting at night in the dark when it’s illegal changes the outlook, even if you are clear on the objective and subjective goal. Hunting out of season. Hunting a squirrel with a rocket launcher, all of which would make it a different and unsavory situation.
LOL… the rocket launcher does manage to kill and cook at the same time 😉

Ahem.

OK, then I’ll phrase it, “Is it moral to unecessarily kill animals for pleasure?”
 
If within reason and with the proper motivation. Yes even if not “necessary” for food.

Note too that hunting is actually important in terms of the good of the animal population. You can find info on that perhaps on state gaming sites.

PS: I am not a hunter…and do would prob. be more of the mind to yell “run run!!!”…
 
OK, then I’ll phrase it, “Is it moral to unecessarily kill animals for pleasure?”
No it is not moral to unnecessarily kill animals for pleasure.
CCC 2418 It is contrary to human dignity to cause animals to suffer or die needlessly. It is likewise unworthy to spend money on them that should as a priority go to the relief of human misery. One can love animals; one should not direct to them the affection due only to persons.
 
I think it depends.

There are game hunters. In this state, at least, it’s illegal to waste one if you shoot it. With deer, particularly, you have to bring it in to a station (usually a slaughterhouse) and arrange for disposition that results in consumption. Lots of people do give it away, but a lot of people eat it themselves. I see nothing wrong with it. Is it better that they eat veal? I also know what it’s like when game animals out-populate their range. Not pretty. Thinning them out is good for their species.

There are “varmint” hunters. I personally kill every poisonous snake I see, if I can. Don’t want some 3 year old kid getting bitten and dying. I kill ever feral hog I see. They are destructive and dangerous. I kill groundhogs in fields, so cattle, horses and people don’t break legs stepping into those holes. I would kill a coyote on sight. They kill calves and sheep and goats and would kill a child if they had the chance and inclination. I kill snapping turtles because they are aggressive and could bite a kid’s fingers off in “the ole swimming hole”. In my mind “varmint hunting” for harmful animals is always justified. Is it better that people be harmed by them?

I don’t know anybody who kills for the fun of killing. But assuming there are some, I would certainly draw the line there.
 
I have a couple christian friends who spend weekends shooting deer with arrows or bullets, and shooting birds out of the sky with shotguns… all as amusement, recreation, enjoyment.

Is that permissible?
This is just my opinion…

But I feel it is immoral to hunt an animal for SPORT.

I do not feel it is wrong to hunt an animal if you intend to use that animal for food and supplies (and if you enjoy the hunt so be it) but to hunt simply for enjoyment is… disordered.

I’m not philosopher, theologian or church teacher but that’s my personal opinion on the matter.
 
Hunting is a primal part of human existence, it is ridiculous to say that it is wrong.

Backing away a bit, I respect vegetarians who oppose the killing of animals for human use, I don’t agree, but I respect their commitment to their opinion.

What I don’t comprehend is the hypocrisy of someone who looks down their nose at hunters, sanitizes their hands and proceeds to eat a Big Mac for lunch. You really think your support for industrialized beef farming is morally superior to guys who kill, dress and cook their own food? Get real.

I’m not a hunter myself (too expensive!), but I do love fishing. I think ALL meat eaters should at lest experince catching, cleaning and cooking their own fish at some point. If you can’t bear the sight of the blood and guts you should get logically consistent and become a vegetarian. We aren’t improved by hiding truths from ourselves.
 
Hunting is a primal part of human existence, it is ridiculous to say that it is wrong.

Backing away a bit, I respect vegetarians who oppose the killing of animals for human use, I don’t agree, but I respect their commitment to their opinion.

What I don’t comprehend is the hypocrisy of someone who looks down their nose at hunters, sanitizes their hands and proceeds to eat a Big Mac for lunch. You really think your support for industrialized beef farming is morally superior to guys who kill, dress and cook their own food? Get real.

I’m not a hunter myself, but I do love sihing. I think ALL meat eaters should at lest experince catching, cleaning and cooking their own fish at some point. If you can’t bear the sight of the blood and guts you should get logically consistent and become a vegetarian. We aren’t improved by hiding truths from ourselves.
As I said, and as I’m sure most agree, to hunt for food and for survival isn’t wrong. but to hunt and kill and then dispose of the carcass without making use of it is wasteful and wrong. It is those hunters that I dislike (and there are more then you’d think. Sometimes they’ll a trophy from their kill and then discard of the body without making use of it). That, to me, is wrong. It’s wasteful and pointless.
 
OK - I hunt. I have rifles (Savage 99 in .308 is my fave!). I eat deer meat. And I don’t confess it!😛

I’ll just list a few points: At one time I was rabidly anti-hunting (I was a vegetarian Franciscan Friar for 6 years!!!), but my beliefs have changed and developed.

Hunting is part of who we are as humans. We have hunted for millenia: and God made us in his image!

Hunting made us human - hunting, cooking and eating meat helped our brains develop.

Hunting is not cruel. Most prey animals die a far crueler natural death by predation or starvation.

Hunting improves the population of the species. Hunting a deer population responsibly keeps it more healthy and more vibrant.

Hunting is the eating of a naturally renewable food resource that does no damage to the environment. Hunting is the most eco friendly food harvesting that can be done.

Hunting means that you are eating the most healthy food around.

Hunting means that you are participating in nature and in the cycle of life, and in the food cycle, not just standing by passively and allowing big business and big government to decide what and how you should eat.

Finally hunting and killing an animal brings you closer to it in a more spiritual way than you can imagine.

There are 400,000 fewer hunters today than just a few decades ago, and many deer populations are out of control as a result (Google Cranbrook BC and deer).

Hunters probably preserve and create more wetland than any other group in North America.

BTW it is illegal in Canada anyway to just shoot something and leave it to rot. You have to use the whole carcass.
 
I have a couple christian friends who spend weekends shooting deer with arrows or bullets, and shooting birds out of the sky with shotguns… all as amusement, recreation, enjoyment.

Is that permissible?
If the meat is used and game laws followed then, no it is not a sin.
Also, there can be “infestations” of birds that can be very problematic and in such cases culling is acceptable.

If, as your OP seems to indicate your friends are simply killing for no use and leaving the carcasses…then yes I would consider this sinful.

Peace
James
 
OK - I hunt. I have rifles (Savage 99 in .308 is my fave!). I eat deer meat. And I don’t confess it!😛

I’ll just list a few points: At one time I was rabidly anti-hunting (I was a vegetarian Franciscan Friar for 6 years!!!), but my beliefs have changed and developed.

Hunting is part of who we are as humans. We have hunted for millenia: and God made us in his image!

Hunting made us human - hunting, cooking and eating meat helped our brains develop.

Hunting is not cruel. Most prey animals die a far crueler natural death by predation or starvation.

Hunting improves the population of the species. Hunting a deer population responsibly keeps it more healthy and more vibrant.

Hunting is the eating of a naturally renewable food resource that does no damage to the environment. Hunting is the most eco friendly food harvesting that can be done.

Hunting means that you are eating the most healthy food around.

Hunting means that you are participating in nature and in the cycle of life, and in the food cycle, not just standing by passively and allowing big business and big government to decide what and how you should eat.

Finally hunting and killing an animal brings you closer to it in a more spiritual way than you can imagine.

BTW it is illegal in Canada anyway to just shoot something and leave it to rot. You have to use the whole carcass.
It’s usually the American hunters who come up and try to leave carcasses behind… and usually in remote areas where they’re unlikely to get caught.

My dad used to be a hunting guide. He has all kinds of horror stories. But admittedly it’s not much of a problem here. Most hunters use what they kill and in those cases I don’t see what’s wrong with what they’re doing.
 
In most countries, they don’t have supermarkets the way ours are. They have to hunt!

But to kill for pleasure is immoral.

Kill what you need to kill, use all that you can use, leave the rest to feed the rest and let the cycle of life continue.
 
Doesn’t “intent” matter?

Sure, it’s nice the kill didn’t go to waste. But I doubt hunters pick up their guns in order to feed the parishioners. They (I assume) kill for the “high” of it, and later do a nice thing with their kills.

And even setting out to kill deer because parishioners enjoy the taste sounds wrong. They don’t HAVE to eat venison. It’s recreational killing to supply recreational eating.
Everything that we humans rely on for food is living, whether meat, fish, or veggies… (OK eggs and milk aren’t “living”)
That living thing, meat fish or veggies, has to be killed, or dies when we eat it.
So there is essentially no difference between venison, beef, perch, or carrots. It was all living and humans killed it in order to live.

People who hunt enjoy it…That is not a problem
People who use the meat are hunting properly…No Problem.

People who kill for the “enjoyment” and do not use the meat…That’s a problem…

Peace
James
 
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