Is it ok for a gay couple to adopt?

[goofyjim]

That’s simply not correct. Its not just the way they are.
People are not born gay. There is no gay gene.
People become homosexual as a result of their upbringing or product of their environment or largely by choice.

Look I don’t practice homosexual behavior but the feelings were there along time ago. I disagree that it is upbringing. It is just the way I am.

 

[goofyjim]

I’m afraid you are right it is the upbringing especially after sexual molestation which is rampage world wide. Sexual molestation in some families is seen as a right of the parents. The other part of this is as bad as the first that the parents have taught the children on many occasions that it is expected of the child/ren to allow parents and others to interfere with them sexually. Later when the child grows up they try to have a natural relationship or try to create a relationship with the same sex and it usually turns violent, on many occasions.
The setting is definitely NOT natural it is definitely satanic.

God bless
littleone

Satanic? A little strong don’t you think? Now you’re portraying homosexuals in general as evil.

 

[IanBoyd57]

There is no such right. Rights do not simply get invented.

They, too, acted on their feelings and desires. That is why it was a form of moral relativism.

If they accepted the Truth they would never have done such an act.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocentrism

If you were born in the same place, most of you would have done the exact same thing. 97% of the time our religion is simply based on our parents. A minority of us may have thought about it ourselves, but most never really consider that they could be wrong. 97% of the time religion is chance, not choice, and this is consistent throughout the world. I know you are absolutely certain, just as the 9/11 hijackers were, that your religion is perfectly and completely right as is your interpretation, but if there was something extra special about you or your religion, we would see people born into other religions converting to yours at a higher rate. We don’t. 97%.

 

[IanBoyd57]

That’s simply not correct. Its not just the way they are.
People are not born gay. There is no gay gene.
People become homosexual as a result of their upbringing or product of their environment or largely by choice.

There is no intelligence gene. There is no creativity gene. There is no perseverance gene. The human mind is extremely complicated. If you’re a scientist, you might want to do a little more research. If not, well, um, not sure why you’d say that.

Again, can you change your sexual orientation right now if you wanted to? If you can’t, how could you (in sound mind at least) conclude that it’s a choice?

I’m straight, and I can’t change myself gay. Can you guys?

Then what are you talking about?

I mean seriously, I don’t understand it. How can people go around claiming it’s a choice without even stopping to check if they themselves can, in face, choose.

If it is environmental and upbringing, then it’s not in their control either. So yes, it would be completely evil to discriminate against people based on something that’s out of their control.

Although, I’d like to throw out there, that even if it was a conscious choice, I would still not discriminate against them because I believe in freedom, and beyond that even, I am extremely compassionate and accepting.

The reason I am nice and don’t judge people or stop them from living their lives isn’t just because I’m not religious, though. When I was catholic, I still supported the rights of minorities and didn’t engage in ethnocentrism or self-righteousness. I stand up for what I believe in no matter what. But still, I wonder if some of you who would otherwise be like me are held back by religiousness, and how many are simply disgusted by two consenting adults sharing themselves with each other if they don’t do it in the same way as you, and are using religion as justification. I suspect it’s mostly a middle ground that doesn’t discriminate but believes that there is something ‘disorderly’ or what not about homosexuality.

 

[Katie1723]

…how many are simply disgusted by two consenting adults sharing themselves with each other if they don’t do it in the same way as you, and are using religion as justification. …

My goodness…did you hit the nail on the head!!

Kathy

 

[fix]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocentrism

If you were born in the same place, most of you would have done the exact same thing. 97% of the time our religion is simply based on our parents. A minority of us may have thought about it ourselves, but most never really consider that they could be wrong. 97% of the time religion is chance, not choice, and this is consistent throughout the world. I know you are absolutely certain, just as the 9/11 hijackers were, that your religion is perfectly and completely right as is your interpretation, but if there was something extra special about you or your religion, we would see people born into other religions converting to yours at a higher rate. We don’t. 97%.

You assume too much. You think Catholics have not asked deep questions about the meaning of life? You believe only you have considered these topics?

No less dangerous is pragmatism, an attitude of mind which, in making its choices, precludes theoretical considerations or judgements based on ethical principles. The practical consequences of this mode of thinking are significant. In particular there is growing support for a concept of democracy which is not grounded upon any reference to unchanging values: whether or not a line of action is admissible is decided by the vote of a parliamentary majority. (105) The consequences of this are clear: in practice, the great moral decisions of humanity are subordinated to decisions taken one after another by institutional agencies. Moreover, anthropology itself is severely compromised by a one-dimensional vision of the human being, a vision which excludes the great ethical dilemmas and the existential analyses of the meaning of suffering and sacrifice, of life and death…

…Even so, it remains true that a certain positivist cast of mind continues to nurture the illusion that, thanks to scientific and technical progress, man and woman may live as a demiurge, single-handedly and completely taking charge of their destiny…

***FIDES ET RATIO ***

 

[fix]

My goodness…did you hit the nail on the head!!

Kathy

How many no longer are bothered by objectively evil acts because we fail to form our consciences correctly?

 

[cazayoux]

The Civil rights struggle is not yet over in our world. I believe that rights for gay couples are part of that struggle for civil rights.

I have read that minority blacks in America do NOT want to have the gay couple discussion grouped with their struggles as they are also majorly opposed to same sex couples.

This is only what I have read, and cannot speak from personal opinion.

I just want to point out that we *may *not be able to group the gay couple discussion with the civil rights movement of the 60’s through today.

 

[Brendan]

Again, can you change your sexual orientation right now if you wanted to? If you can’t, how could you (in sound mind at least) conclude that it’s a choice?

I’m straight, and I can’t change myself gay. Can you guys?

Then what are you talking about?

I mean seriously, I don’t understand it. How can people go around claiming it’s a choice without even stopping to check if they themselves can, in face, choose…

The inclination may or may not be a choice. For the sake of argument, let’s assume that it’s not a choice.

But what certainly IS a choice is weither or not they engage in homosexual acts.

A homosexual, like a heterosexual has the choice if they want to remain chaste or engage in sex. And like the fornicator or the adulterer, homosexual sex is a moral evil.

So yes, they DO make a choice, they choose to engage in moral evil.

The case is very similar to an alcholic. They too often have a genetic predisposition towards a moral evil (alcohol abuse). They too may choose to remain sober or to get drunk.

It is not a good decision to place a child in the house of one who is unwilling to make the effort to remain sober.

It is likewise not a good decision to place a child in the house of one who is unwilling to remain chaste.