Is it okay for a Catholic to practice Yoga?

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I’m not a theologan but I assume emptying your mind is an issue with the first commandment. When we empty our mind we are not loving the Lord with all our mind because it is empty. When you clear your mind as you describe above, that is not the same spiritual end that yoga is trying to achieve.

"YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND
Nobody thinks about God 100% of the time, not even you. Every single one of us, including you, thinks about a wide variety of stuff through the day. For some people, meditation is a good way to clear their mind of the trivial busy work of the day. After clearing one’s mind of all the daily stuff, one can then more easily get focused back on God.
 
I’m not a theologan but I assume emptying your mind is an issue with the first commandment. When we empty our mind we are not loving the Lord with all our mind because it is empty. When you clear your mind as you describe above, that is not the same spiritual end that yoga is trying to achieve.

"YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND
Nobody thinks about God 100% of the time, not even you. Every single one of us, including you, thinks about a wide variety of stuff through the day. For some people, meditation is a good way to clear their mind of the trivial busy work of the day. After clearing one’s mind of all the daily stuff, one can then more easily get focused back on God.
 
I’m not a theologan but I assume emptying your mind is an issue with the first commandment. When we empty our mind we are not loving the Lord with all our mind because it is empty. When you clear your mind as you describe above, that is not the same spiritual end that yoga is trying to achieve.

"YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND
That is quite the non sequitor

Also I think it has been demonstrated rather clearly earlier in this thread that yoga has no “spiritual end” that it is trying to achieve.
 
I’m not a theologan but I assume emptying your mind is an issue with the first commandment. When we empty our mind we are not loving the Lord with all our mind because it is empty. When you clear your mind as you describe above, that is not the same spiritual end that yoga is trying to achieve.

"YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND
I have certainly never even attempted to empty my mind as you put it - not while doing those stretches or anything else. One thing I am doing is focusing on positioning my body correctly and maintaining the pose for a decent length of time.

Doing so does eliminate some mundane chatter from my mind - in other words I’m thinking less about things like what to eat for dinner, whether the car needs washing and the like. Not that I consciously try to do so, it happens. In that sense it is actually easier to think about God - there are less of those trivial distracting thoughts in the way. But again, that’s not something I aim for when doing it either.
 
yoga without spirtuality/ meditating is simply called stretching also could you point out where the document says that specically.

i have yet to see yoga meditating on Jesus advertised anywhere which would be okay.
Do a google search on ‘Praise Moves’ 🙂
 
i think you should read the link you posted,
if your not meditating it’s not Yoga, going by the link you provided,
Wikipedia:
Yoga (Devanagari:योगा) is a term for a range of traditional systems of physical exercise and meditation in Hinduism.

Modified versions of the physical exercises in hatha yoga have become popular as a kind of low-impact physical exercise, and are used for therapeutic purposes.[1][2][3] “Yoga” in this sense and in common parlance refers primarily to the asanas but less commonly to pranayama. Aspects of meditation are sometimes included.[4][5]
I read my sources well.
otherwise i think you should read the link i provided as the church is against yoga, but of course not stretching
The Church does not oppose secular yoga, which is exercise. It is simply a type of stretching. Saying that it is synonymous with stretching is to ignore that secular yoga is a very, very particular type of stretching.

If yoga makes you uncomfortable, use “secular yoga.” But if I stretch my arms in front of me, that is stretching, not yoga, which has particular poses and exercises in particular progressions.
 
That is quite the non sequitor

Also I think it has been demonstrated rather clearly earlier in this thread that yoga has no “spiritual end” that it is trying to achieve.
I guess that is the disagreement. Yoga does have a spiritual end in more than one way. See article attached. Fr. Pacwa repeated several things in this article on his radio show including that a core philosophy of yoga was the belief in reincarnation. Now I am not saying that those practicing yoga are knowledgable of this and would intentionally be be misled but the danger is there. I can meditate and relax in so many other ways without getting into something that is a controversy. An hour in adoration does in every time. Interestingly too, I’ve never thought of having to clear my mind in order to relax. I do need time alone though at times, in prayer, reading, exercising, a simple hobby etc. A nice hot bath with some music playing does it too. 😛

catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=2927
 
I read my sources well.

The Church does not oppose secular yoga, which is exercise. It is simply a type of stretching. Saying that it is synonymous with stretching is to ignore that secular yoga is a very, very particular type of stretching.

If yoga makes you uncomfortable, use “secular yoga.” But if I stretch my arms in front of me, that is stretching, not yoga, which has particular poses and exercises in particular progressions.
so if your not streching your worshiping the sun
google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=yoga+debased+secular+practice&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CFUQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sikhphilosophy.net%2Fhinduism%2F5147-yoga-debased-secular-practice-newhouse-news.html&ei=MnXoT4eiHsbLhAffkYTjCQ&usg=AFQjCNFuU7OUYlo6svsInGXtYSFEK6P9Ag
there is loads of links but above is just one,on secular yoga

In an article entitled “Is Yoga Debased by Secular Practice?,” it featured comments from Hindus who were upset that Americans are co-opting the sacred practice of Yoga by debasing and commercializing it. Throughout the article Hindus stated that Yoga is a Hindu religious practice and people should stop pretending that it isn’t just that.

Why is there such a thing as “Christian” Yoga? It certainly has no scriptural or biblical basis to support it. I have repeated many times in my book, my writings and in radio interviews that Yoga is an eastern spiritual practice and has no place in the church. Do you think that Hindus who practice yoga are doing it to attain rock hard abs? The answer is clearly no. The purpose is spiritual. It is not just the meditations; but many of the postures used are a form of sun worship. Does that sound Christian to you?

if your exercising your exercising but that is not yoga, which you keep pointing out, so worship and pose away at sun gods all you want that why the church disagrees with it. google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=christ+the+water+bearer+of+life&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CGEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vatican.va%2Froman_curia%2Fpontifical_councils%2Finterelg%2Fdocuments%2Frc_pc_interelg_doc_20030203_new-age_en.html&ei=_nboT8qNKZK0hAerxPHHCQ&usg=AFQjCNHIm8oVnBIzWxncLINyFAUbtyKGvQ
 
Yoga itself is not “just an exercise.” The very design, the postures and movements, are all designed according to a Hindu cosmology and are designed to place one in an altered state of consciousness, to open on up to the “energies” within the body and in the universe. This is what is meant by becoming “more aware of your body, mind and environment” mentioned by the Yogi master in the article.
This sounds like superstition to me. How can we open up to energies in the universe by standing in a particular way? If my bottom is sticking out am I really worshipping something? Or if I’m holding my arms streched out? This sounds completely nonsensical to me. Can these so-called ‘energies’ really be manipulated in such a way? All exercise makes us feel good: there is a flow in the body, there is a sense of being more awake, stronger, healthy, etc. Is running and streching on the floor ultimately not the same thing? It is just physical activity :confused: And even if people believe that standing in a particular posture has a spiritual aim, does it actually mean that something spiritual is taking place? Just because I’m kneeling doesn’t mean I’m necessarily praying. Right?
 
This sounds like superstition to me. How can we open up to energies in the universe by standing in a particular way? If my bottom is sticking out am I really worshipping something? Or if I’m holding my arms streched out? This sounds completely nonsensical to me. Can these so-called ‘energies’ really be manipulated in such a way? All exercise makes us feel good: there is a flow in the body, there is a sense of being more awake, stronger, healthy, etc. Is running and streching on the floor ultimately not the same thing? It is just physical activity :confused: And even if people believe that standing in a particular posture has a spiritual aim, does it actually mean that something spiritual is taking place? Just because I’m kneeling doesn’t mean I’m necessarily praying. Right?
if you kneeling in a church or you exercising or pryaing, maybe simple exercising but it would be unusual and certainly not the impression you would be giving others, some might jump to silly conclusions you are worshiping God.
 
if you kneeling in a church or you exercising or pryaing, maybe simple exercising but it would be unusual and certainly not the impression you would be giving others, some might jump to silly conclusions you are worshiping God.
Trust me, I’ve spent a lot of time kneeling but not really praying. To do lists, thinking of this or that,…

But the point I’m trying to make concerns the reality of such spirituality. I don’t believe yoga achieves anything spiritual, even if people believe it does. It reduces stress, helps you focus, relaxes the body. So what? 20 mins on the treadmill helps me focus too and reduces my level of stress. The rowing machine is quite meditative for me. Am I praying when I exercise? No. It is just exercise. I believe it is the same with yoga. Also, I found that pilates uses some of the postures as yoga does. Where do we draw the line?
 
Trust me, I’ve spent a lot of time kneeling but not really praying. To do lists, thinking of this or that,…

But the point I’m trying to make concerns the reality of such spirituality. I don’t believe yoga achieves anything spiritual, even if people believe it does. It reduces stress, helps you focus, relaxes the body. So what? 20 mins on the treadmill helps me focus too and reduces my level of stress. The rowing machine is quite meditative for me. Am I praying when I exercise? No. It is just exercise. I believe it is the same with yoga. Also, I found that pilates uses some of the postures as yoga does. Where do we draw the line?
the point i was making is that kneeling is kneeling sometimes its praying somtimes its not.
as a posture in a church its a posture taken to pray. EG worshiping God in the Eucharist.
exercising is exercising during yoga its postures taken to worship sun Gods. like it or not. otherwise it would be called exercising and stretching.

you say that you don’t beleive it achieves anything spritual even if some say it does.
same as transubstanation, some believe some don’t, but going to mass gives others the impression you do.
the line is simple, i’m doing pilates,then the line i’m doing yoga, so your given others the impression you believe in sun Gods. isn’t that called giving scandal.
 
the point i was making is that kneeling is kneeling sometimes its praying somtimes its not.
as a posture in a church its a posture taken to pray. EG worshiping God in the Eucharist.
exercising is exercising during yoga its postures taken to worship sun Gods. like it or not. otherwise it would be called exercising and stretching.

you say that you don’t beleive it achieves anything spritual even if some say it does.
same as transubstanation, some believe some don’t, but going to mass gives others the impression you do.
the line is simple, i’m doing pilates,then the line i’m doing yoga, so your given others the impression you believe in sun Gods. isn’t that called giving scandal.
It looks like you’re the one who believes in sun gods since you think yoga has anything to do with any such mythology.
 
See article attached.
I can’t say I understood the point of reading the attached article. Who is the author and what is her level of expertise on the subject? Where are her sources? I can’t really believe her based on her word alone. Anyone can write anything they want on the internet. It doesn’t make it accurate.
Fr. Pacwa repeated several things in this article on his radio show including that a core philosophy of yoga was the belief in reincarnation.
If you’re talking about the article previously mentioned on this thread, then he did no such thing. He spoke personally of yoga and of his personal experience with it, not of its core philosophies. Regardless, however great Fr. Pacwa is, he, like the other lady, is not an expert on yoga.
I can meditate and relax in so many other ways without getting into something that is a controversy.
Sure you can. But no other routines as of yet are known to provide as effective a stretching routine as yoga does. Other than one neck exercise increasing the chance of blood clots in your corrotid arteries, no negitive health effects are really known about it. In addition, I did several of the stretches for years playing soccer, not only not knowing that it was a yoga position I was doing, but actually not even as of yet having heard of yoga before. The point is that yoga positions have been used in America really for centuries and if you stretch regularly, I would be willing to bet a large sum of money that you unknowingly do yoga poses yourself.
An hour in adoration does in every time. Interestingly too, I’ve never thought of having to clear my mind in order to relax. I do need time alone though at times, in prayer, reading, exercising, a simple hobby etc. A nice hot bath with some music playing does it too. 😛
Good for you. That’s you, though, not me or anyone else.
 
I can’t say I understood the point of reading the attached article. Who is the author and what is her level of expertise on the subject? Where are her sources? I can’t really believe her based on her word alone. Anyone can write anything they want on the internet. It doesn’t make it accurate.

If you’re talking about the article previously mentioned on this thread, then he did no such thing. He spoke personally of yoga and of his personal experience with it, not of its core philosophies. Regardless, however great Fr. Pacwa is, he, like the other lady, is not an expert on yoga.

Sure you can. But no other routines as of yet are known to provide as effective a stretching routine as yoga does. Other than one neck exercise increasing the chance of blood clots in your corrotid arteries, no negitive health effects are really known about it. In addition, I did several of the stretches for years playing soccer, not only not knowing that it was a yoga position I was doing, but actually not even as of yet having heard of yoga before. The point is that yoga positions have been used in America really for centuries and if you stretch regularly, I would be willing to bet a large sum of money that you unknowingly do yoga poses yourself. Good for you. That’s you, though, not me or anyone else.
First Peace in Christ! Do you want me to forward other links on yoga that speak to it in the same light? This is easily done but I’m traveling over the next 24 hours. Until then, can you refer me to a credible website that is “Accurate” on yoga that contradicts my point?
 
It looks like you’re the one who believes in sun gods since you think yoga has anything to do with any such mythology.
that doesn’t even make sense and seeing the thread is about okay for catholics to practice yoga and you beleive God is a myth, makes your posts fairly irrelevant
 
that doesn’t even make sense and seeing the thread is about okay for catholics to practice yoga and you beleive God is a myth, makes your posts fairly irrelevant
If you’re going to falsely put words in my mouth, could you at least use proper English grammar? :ouch:
 
so if your not streching your worshiping the sun
What? No. If you are not stretching you could be eating, sleeping, working, and so forth. If you are practicing yoga without the spirituality, you are not worshiping the sun.
In an article entitled “Is Yoga Debased by Secular Practice?,” it featured comments from Hindus who were upset that Americans are co-opting the sacred practice of Yoga by debasing and commercializing it. Throughout the article Hindus stated that Yoga is a Hindu religious practice and people should stop pretending that it isn’t just that.
So? The opinions of the Hindus do not alter reality. First, whether any group desires it or not, it is happening. Second, if you seriously wish to put forward this argument, then you admit that it has been debased and commercialized and rendered separate from its spirituality.
Why is there such a thing as “Christian” Yoga? It certainly has no scriptural or biblical basis to support it.
Neither does using porcelain toilets, and yet here we are…
Do you think that Hindus who practice yoga are doing it to attain rock hard abs? The answer is clearly no. The purpose is spiritual. It is not just the meditations; but many of the postures used are a form of sun worship. Does that sound Christian to you?
Religious/spiritual yoga sounds very unchristian. Fortunately, we are not speaking about that, but about secular yoga.
if your exercising your exercising but that is not yoga, which you keep pointing out, so worship and pose away at sun gods all you want that why the church disagrees with it.
No one is advocating worshiping anything other than God.

It is sad that this entire issue is actually just a terminology issue.

No one here is saying that spiritual yoga is okay. People are saying that secular yoga is okay.

I can only assume that you also think secular yoga is okay, because that is the Church’s position and the one of rationality. But, if you think the opposite, please say so so that we may move forward along that line.
the line is simple, i’m doing pilates,then the line i’m doing yoga, so your given others the impression you believe in sun Gods. isn’t that called giving scandal.
You actually are not. Maybe to those who are ignorant of what yoga is, but anything is problematic to someone. When I see someone doing yoga, I know they are doing yoga. That is all.
 
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