Is it possible to KNOW which religion is the most true

[Ilkka]

If we agree on the definition we can make objective statements about whether a thing is brown.

Not true. For that to be an objective statement, you would first need to objectively know whether brown is actually a mutually defined color. Can you objectively conclude that the people you have happened to encounter during your lifetime and discuss the color brown with AREN’T, in fact, the only people in the world to define brown as a color?

Do you see what I mean? A very highly unlikely scenario can ruin the illusion of objectivity. For example, your existence is one of those things that we cannot objectively conclude without omniscience. Of course I believe you exists and that I also exist but we would be wrong to make the assertion that it is an objectively justified belief because it isn’t.

 

[JoeShlabotnik]

Yes. It is the Catholic religion that is the most true. Period.

 

[Dan123]

Not true. For that to be an objective statement, you would first need to objectively know whether brown is actually a mutually defined color. Can you objectively conclude that the people you have happened to encounter during your lifetime and discuss the color brown with AREN’T, in fact, the only people in the world to define brown as a color?

They might be the only ones, but that’s not the point. The point is if we agree on a definition we can make objective statements, e.g. “this dirt is brown”. It’s objectively true because the word brown has been defined within our circle in such a way that it would include the color of dirt. If people outside that group don’t have the same definition then they are talking about a different concept, so if they say the sky is brown because their brown is what we’d call blue, it doesn’t impact us as it’s a different idea they’re referencing. I feel like what you’re getting at is less objectivity and more absoluteness.

As to your second point, yes solipsism is tough to get around, but its interesting that you both acknowledge that and also feel Christ having risen is something you can claim objectively, when you can’t even claim I exist with certainty.

I guess to expand on this as well, you mention needing omniscience to be able to make objective claims of existence. Fitting with the theme, how can a being know if it has omniscience? Like how would you know if you know everything?

 

[Ilkka]

I feel like what you’re getting at is less objectivity and more absoluteness.

Oh, sure. That’s probably a better definition of what I meant.

you both acknowledge that and also feel Christ having risen is something you can claim objectively

I don’t claim it objectively but I do assert that according to my subjective reasoning, I believe that Christ having risen is objectively true. I claim its objectivity but I don’t claim it objectively.

 

[Karen]

I don’t think that is true of Judaism. God revealed himself to the Jewish people but that does not mean other people could have their own experience with God. Non jews can be righteous gentiles as defined by the 7 noahide laws. Islam is largely seen as falling within that. There might be a concern about idolatry in the Christian religion. Meltzerboy may know more

 

[openmind77]

I don’t think that is true of Judaism. God revealed himself to the Jewish people but that does not mean other people could have their own experience with God. Non jews can be righteous gentiles as defined by the 7 noahide laws. Islam is largely seen as falling within that. There might be a concern about idolatry in the Christian religion. Meltzerboy may know more

Isn’t the Christian belief in the Trinity a big problem for Judaism? I thought belief in a single, unitary God was very important?

 

[Gorgias]

A subjectively justified belief being a belief who’s merit is dependent upon one’s personal interpretation of the evidence.

That’s the problem, though. The assertion is that “one’s personal interpretation of the evidence” is the basis behind every subjective judgment of truth.

Except ‘brown is a color’ is true by definition.

Right. That’s not an assertion that one might ask whether is true or not. Maybe a better example might be “this box is brown”.

Or to put it another way, it’s less false than other religions. Not what I would call a ringing endorsement…

…Follow my religion because it’s less false than other religions.

Cute.

A more accurate statement of this type would be “there are truths found in all religions, inasmuch as they seek God and the Good. In Catholicism, on the other hand, is found the fullness of the truth.”

You can’t make clever, snarky statements from that one.

 

[Lucy_1]

Jesus claimed to be God, and then He rose from the dead. The latter gives the former full credibility. No other religion has that kind of support.

 

[openmind77]

Jesus claimed to be God…

Did Jesus actually ever claim to be God? I know he said that he was ‘the Son of Man’ and that ‘the Father and I are one’, but did he explicitly say that he was God himself?

 

[goout]

Yes. The Scriptures continually speak of Jesus self identification with God the Father and his kingship. If you’re looking for human braggadocio, you won’t find that.
It’s way too big a topic to cover in a post. Research it, it’s one of the most talked about issues ever/.