Is it wrong to pray to see the blessed virgin on earth?

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Is it wrong to pray and ask that some day that you will see the Blessed Virgin Mary on earth???. As St. Catherine Labouré prayed that she would see her and so she did. Does anyone pray to see her on earth before the dead ?? 🙂
 
I don’t think so; but another angle on this question might be, would one be able to handle it?

This is one of those things where you need to be careful what you pray for, you might just get it. Personally, while I love the Blessed Mother, I’m not sure I want an apparition.
 
Is it wrong to pray and ask that some day that you will see the Blessed Virgin Mary on earth???. As St. Catherine Labouré prayed that she would see her and so she did. Does anyone pray to see her on earth before the dead ?? 🙂
Please document your assertion that Catherine Laboure prayed to see Our Lady.
 
I guess my curiosity got the best of me . After reading the previous post, I couldn’t wait …I went to my search engine and found this link:
amm.org/catherine.asp

It appears to be stated in paragraph # 8 directly under the heading Mary Appears to Saint Catherine Laboure.

It is an interesting question by Alex_D.

I don’t know if I could venture an answer. I might say that, based on St. Paul’s epistle ( which came up today in the cycle of readings actually) [Hebrews 11:1-7] , St. Augustine said, “Faith is belief in those things we cannot see…and the reward of our faith is that we will see everything we have believed.”

So it could seem more a question of how and when rather than if.

This is the first time I’ve read of someone praying to see our Blessed Mother - and then it happening.

My guess would be along the lines that if it had been wrong, then Our Blessed Mother probably wouldn’t have appeared to her.
 
Only if you’re on the spiritual level of St. Catherine Laboure is it not wrong.

Are you?
 
I guess my curiosity got the best of me . After reading the previous post, I couldn’t wait …I went to my search engine and found this link:
amm.org/catherine.asp

It appears to be stated in paragraph # 8 directly under the heading Mary Appears to Saint Catherine Laboure.

It is an interesting question by Alex_D.

I don’t know if I could venture an answer. I might say that, based on St. Paul’s epistle ( which came up today in the cycle of readings actually) [Hebrews 11:1-7] , St. Augustine said, “Faith is belief in those things we cannot see…and the reward of our faith is that we will see everything we have believed.”

So it could seem more a question of how and when rather than if.

This is the first time I’ve read of someone praying to see our Blessed Mother - and then it happening.

My guess would be along the lines that if it had been wrong, then Our Blessed Mother probably wouldn’t have appeared to her.
Thanks for that link. I always find such vignettes to so very edifying.

As I was reading it, I began to recall being told that story in grade school. I believe it was Mère Marie-Edith (a survivor of the Andrea D’Oria). Anyway, as it was recounted to us, Soeur Cathérine’s faith was such that she prayed in the hope that the Sainte Vièrge would visit her. Not from pride or doubt. Simply from faith and love. Her prayers were answered and she kept the apparition in her heart until she was given the instructions for the Medal. And even then it took a while for anyone to believe her!

As for the OP’s question, I suppose it depends on the motivation of the petitioner. Would one say Ste Cathérine Labouré was wrong? But I agree that I’d not venture an answer: the matter of motivation is highly personal and subjective. Only the petitioner knows his or her own heart.
 
I guess my curiosity got the best of me . After reading the previous post, I couldn’t wait …I went to my search engine and found this link:
amm.org/catherine.asp
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N.I., I thank you for your speedy research. In fact, reading the linked text jogged my memory. The defintive authority re the biographies of Catherine Laboure is Father Durkin, C.M… I found a description of his work in the EWTN site. Yes, he describes Catherine as praying to the community’s founder, St. Vincent de Paul with such a request - after she had long enjoyed visions of and communications with Vincent de Paul and visions of Our Lord as Christ the King and as Jesus hidden in the Holy Eucharist.

Here is reference of what came to pass for Catherine regarding visions of Our Lady.

ewtn.com/library/MARY/CATLABOU.htm

"VII. "This is the Blessed Virgin"

On a midsummer’s night—July 18, 1830, the eve of the feast of St. Vincent de Paul—Our Lady came to Paris. She came, not to the shadowy vastness of her Cathedral of Notre Dame, but to the narrow back street called the rue du Bac, to the Motherhouse of the Sisters of Charity.

As Sister Laboure and the other novices prepared for bed, they were filled with happy thoughts of the morrow. They had just left the chapel, transformed into a homely elegance of flowers, snowy linen, and polished candelabra in preparation for the feast-day Mass. Their Directress, the old Mother Martha, had talked to them of devotion to the saints, and especially to their blessed Father St. Vincent, and, as a feast-day gift, had given each of them a small piece of a surplice St. Vincent had worn.

Tomorrow, after the glorious Mass, there would be recreation, and they would chat and laugh together and sing old songs; and maybe they would walk over to the priests’ church in the afternoon to pray before their Holy Founder’s body…

Catherine’s heart was bursting with the certainty that grew and swelled within it, the certainty that something was about to happen, something of great moment. Lying wide awake and staring up at the pale whiteness of the bed curtains, she clutched in her hand her piece of that precious surplice. She talked to St. Vincent a long time in her prayers, telling him again of her soul’s dearest wish—to see with her own eyes the Blessed Virgin. It was a startling wish, a startling prayer, on the lips of this hard-headed, practical peasant girl, but it can no longer surprise us, who have seen her intense love of the Mother of God take root and burgeon and fructify; nor could it surprise her, who had witnessed the intimate wonders of Heaven, had seen the Lord Himself.

Suddenly, as if struck with an inspiration, she tore the tiny cloth in two and swallowed half of it. It was a simple act of devotion, growing out of a simple faith. Sophisticated rationalists might sniff at it as ludicrous superstition, but those whose believing mothers have signed their brows with the sacred wedding ring and given them holy water to drink will understand.

A serene peace came over Catherine. In her mind was a single, confident thought: Tonight I shall see her. Tonight I shall see the Blessed Virgin. She closed her eyes and slept.

She had been sleeping some two hours when a sudden light flickered in the dormitory. The light came from a candle carried by a little child of four or five, a child of extraordinary beauty and so surrounded with radiance that the whiteness of his little gown was dazzling. He approached the bed where Catherine lay. He called her softly:
"Sister Laboure! "
She did not stir. He called again, insistently:
"Sister Laboure! "
She moved a little; his voice had entered her dreams, and sleep was slipping away. Then:
“Sister Laboure!” once more, and Catherine awoke, her eyes big and staring. She turned her head in the direction of the sound. It seemed to come from near the door. Through the haze of her bed curtains she saw the brightness. She sat up quickly and drew the curtains. The child said:

“Come to the chapel. The Blessed Virgin awaits you.” "

~~~

That the young novice Catherine confided the desire of her heart to her Community’s founder, while in prayer, seems quite distinct from a scenario wherein one would pray “to have visions.”
 
Is it wrong to pray and ask that some day that you will see the Blessed Virgin Mary on earth???. As St. Catherine Labouré prayed that she would see her and so she did. Does anyone pray to see her on earth before the dead ?? 🙂
Of course not.
 
I don’t think it’s wrong to want to see our Lady on earth, but I’m thinking it might be interesting to know why someone would want to be graced with this gift.
 
N.I., I thank you for your speedy research. …
Catharina, you asked the most pertinent question of all - I couldn’t resist. Thanks for such an edifying post which followed your comment quoted above. God really is wonderful in our Blessed Mother isn’t He?

Some of the posts got me thinking in a certain direction. So, remember, this next part is based on private revelation, and to observe proper forum guidelines, it’s better not to mention the place’s name, but we’re kind of making a particular presumption here. This place I won’t name, the (alleged if you prefer) visionaries asked Our Lady once why She chose them and she answered, “I don’t always choose the best.” (I imagine that would’ve been the end of “question period” …🙂 …:blackeye: )

So it also depends on what She decides and on what She obtains from her Son- not exclusively on the disposition of the visionary/candidate in and of itself.

Following those same lines (private revelation) this person in South America (Katarina R.) had several alleged revelations from Jesus and eventually she also asked Him, “Why did you choose me?” He answered, “Because I couldn’t find anyone more wretched.”

If I were ever blessed with a vision of Our Beloved Lord , or of Our Blessed Mother,I’m convinced that I’d probably do everything in my power to avoid asking, “Why?”

🙂
 
Catharina, you asked the most pertinent question of all - I couldn’t resist. Thanks for such an edifying post which followed your comment quoted above. God really is wonderful in our Blessed Mother isn’t He?

Some of the posts got me thinking in a certain direction. So, remember, this next part is based on private revelation, and to observe proper forum guidelines, it’s better not to mention the place’s name, but we’re kind of making a particular presumption here. This place I won’t name, the (alleged if you prefer) visionaries asked Our Lady once why She chose them and she answered, “I don’t always choose the best.” (I imagine that would’ve been the end of “question period” …🙂 …:blackeye: )

So it also depends on what She decides and on what She obtains from her Son- not exclusively on the disposition of the visionary/candidate in and of itself.

Following those same lines (private revelation) this person in South America (Katarina R.) had several alleged revelations from Jesus and eventually she also asked Him, “Why did you choose me?” He answered, “Because I couldn’t find anyone more wretched.”

If I were ever blessed with a vision of Our Beloved Lord , or of Our Blessed Mother,I’m convinced that I’d probably do everything in my power to avoid asking, “Why?”

🙂
NI, thanks for your kind words.

A few more words about Catherine (all in the work by Father Durkin). When Catherine was only nine yrs iold, her mother died and Catherine turned to Our Lady to become her new mother. This relationship was sustained by prayer and personal humilty. In time Catherine entered the Daughters of Charity in Paris France. Eventually, St. Vincent (already dead) became Catherine’s spiritual father in the community that he had founded, again based in her prayers and eventually, in visions. Finally she turned to St. Vincent as an orphaned choild might turn to her father to confide her deepest wish: that she see Our Blessed Mother. After that special prayer to St. Vincent, Catherine’s wish was granted.
 
Following those same lines (private revelation) this person in South America (Katarina R.) had several alleged revelations from Jesus and eventually she also asked Him, “Why did you choose me?” He answered, “Because I couldn’t find anyone more wretched.”
:hmmm: :ehh: Well I guess Jesus wasn’t looking to hard…otherwise He would have come to me:takeoff:
 
Asking for apparitions is asking Satan to come into your heart. We must be humble, not proud.
 
Is it wrong to pray and ask that some day that you will see the Blessed Virgin Mary on earth???. As St. Catherine Labouré prayed that she would see her and so she did. Does anyone pray to see her on earth before the dead ?? 🙂
Such a question shows that you love her so much that you want to see her. When you miss someone, you wish to see them because you love them. When love is there, nothing is wrong. I know of people who have seen her or have sensed her presence. Personally I smell her roses. Others have too. She loves us very much. According to Medjugorge visionary Ivan, whom sees Mary at the 6 o’clock hour every day, he said that she told him, 'If you knew how much I love you each, you will cry for joy." Another thing he asked her, “Mary why me?” “Why did you call me?” and she said “I don’t always pick the best.” We were bursting with laughter when he said this. Ivan travels to Churches. He is humble and is simply an instrument of God like all of us in our own way. Alex, even if you don’t see Mary before you die, though you ought to pray for it since you love her, then rest assured you will see her in the afterlife. Make no doubt about it, people in purgatory also know her. I am not sure of those who are in eternal punishment. That is God to judge. But from what I’ve read, the holy souls are relieved when they see her. Obviously in Heaven, where its her home, you can see her there.
Grace and Peace be with you.
 
marypages.com/ Is this website correct ??
In her steady and intimate prayer life, Catherine Laboure upheld devotion to St. Vincent de Paul. In prayer she confided to him her wish to see Our Lady. If you would read all of the above postings, you’ll find much more detail re Catherine’s devotions.

Weighing the biography of Catherine by Father Durkin, CM, against the site you linked that includes unapproved visions (by its author own admission) my preference would be to go with the most relaible source and that would be Father Durkin.

Actually, my preference is to read nothing of unapproved visions.
 
I have read that St. Theresa of Avila warned those under her direction to not pray for or even wish for apparitions. She said that those who receive apparitions also receive visits from demons as well and most people cannot handle the demonic visitations.
 
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