Originally Posted by Julia Mae
God comes and takes back our lives to Himself and we bring Him… what? Why would Jesus have told the rich young man to give away all he had, if things mattered? When you leave, the things stay here. Jesus had friends who had a lot of things. …
I don’t know, did you? I didn’t.
What you’re describing is hoarding
I’ve not described hoarding in any way. I told you about the Parable of the talents.
Again, you think I want a third servant routine because I chose to run away from my responsibility of maximizing my talents because I was afraid of getting paid for it?
I think
you want? I never said anything about what you want.
Originally Posted by Julia Mae
I have no idea what this means. I have never suggested anyone “run away from the world.” I think it would be a good thing if we all “ran toward” God, though.
The kind of advice that you give…
You realize you are actually arguing with Jesus Christ? I’m not giving advice to you, I am relating Scripture with which you seem unfamiliar. Jesus told you to feed the hungry, clothe the naked and visit the imprisoned. Jesus told you that He would judge you entirely on how you treat the “least” of people.
… is what me, my father, my mother, along with many other business people have seen used as an excuse for people to talk themselves down and remain in misery (not just financially, but emotionally, socially, and even spiritually).
“I don’t want to earn money cuz it root of all eebil.”
So you are socially, morally and economically superior to such people? I’m not sure why you have couched your responses in extremes. Did someone say EARN NO MONEY!! (Well, besides the Church’s great Saint, Francis of Assisi) No one in this thread said that.
“I’ll just sit here poor and wait to die. That way I’ll be rich in heaven!”
“There was a rich man who dressed in purple garments and fine linen and dined sumptuously each day. And lying at his door was a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, who would gladly have eaten his fill of the scraps that fell from the rich man’s table. Dogs even used to come and lick his sores. When the poor man died, he was carried away by angels to the bosom of Abraham. The rich man also died and was buried, and from the netherworld, where he was in torment, he raised his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side.
And he cried out, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me. Send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am suffering torment in these flames.’
Abraham replied, ‘My child, remember that you received what was good during your lifetime while Lazarus likewise received what was bad; but now he is comforted here, whereas you are tormented."
Like I said, you aren’t arguing with me.
Originally Posted by Julia Mae
Jesus advice to the man was not a parable, He was speaking as literally as possible. …
That is not literal. You’re just thinking it is.
This is not a parable, it is a report of what Jesus said to someone. Jesus called all His disciples to come and follow Him. To leave behind their earthly concerns of that moment. To walk away from their fishing boats and lucrative job as tax collector. He didn’t ask that of everyone, just those who wished to be perfect, as the rich young man did. When He sent His Apostles out, He sent them with nothing but the clothes on their backs. And He expected people to provide what they needed: food and shelter.
Jesus also made clear that we
are given our riches if we have them,(see Lazarus above).
If we were to go by the hardcore literal understanding of that statement, we’d all leave our parents homes, leave our responsibilities, throw away our fortunes, and live in monasteries.
But Jesus didn’t tell everyone to do that, did He? But He did tell some things to everyone. He told everyone how they would be judged, as I pointed out above. You will be judged by how many of the people you hold in such contempt as you have demonstrated here, you have fed.
And FYI? You’re presenting a false dichotomy that is contrary to my paycheck.
I’m not presenting anything, I am quoting and referring to the Gospel of Jesus Christ, who is my Lord and my God.
The good thing about a decent income is that there’s still room for a personal indulgence.
Or to give it away to those who don’t have a decent income.
On the other hand, I still have enough left to either pile up some good savings or have some fun every now and then (heck just this weekend I watched
Ghost Rider 2 in 3D, ooh I’m so evil

).
Approximately 2 thousand people died of starvation while you were doing so.
Originally Posted by Julia Mae
Jesus would call them an opportunity for Grace. They are here for our benefit, so we have a place to invest our talents. They would not exist at all, if everyone did.
Yeah well an improved economy will always be a better solution than directly giving to beggars and street urchins.
By “street urchins” I presume you mean hungry children? By “beggars” I presume you mean the man Lazarus kept walking by?
The issue ITT is not the economy. The issue is following Christ in His Church and what happens as we dedicate ourselves to knowing Him and being unified with Him. What might try and stop that? How do we deal with that push/pull from the Liar on one side and our own soul’s yearning to be united with God forever on the other?
You know what makes a good economy?
Do you know what makes for the good of your soul?