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justasking4
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These 2 beliefs systems are not identical nor even close to being and so is there understanding and beliefs about God.
Is Jesus Christ and the Roman Catholic Church the only way to salvation?
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justasking4
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You used these terms and i thought you would know what you mean by them. Am i wrong?
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KJK80
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You were directed to three sources that explain what they mean… If we can read and comprehend them, surely you can.
Just because you are directed to another source, doesn’t mean we don’t know what the terms mean ourselves. Just that others have explained them already, no reason for us to re-explain.
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justasking4
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If you know what you believe you should be able to articulate it without having someone go and read some article. Secondly, even if i do read it it does not mean i would know this is exactly what you believe.KJK80;3484293]You were directed to three sources that explain what they mean… If we can read and comprehend them, surely you can.
Just because you are directed to another source, doesn’t mean we don’t know what the terms mean ourselves. Just that others have explained them already, no reason for us to re-explain.
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KJK80
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Well, if you read the Catechism of the Catholic Church… You read what I believe.
Where can I read what you believe?
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justasking4
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Have you studied it deeply?
If you read the Scriptures you will know what i believe.
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KJK80
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A) Yes, why would that matter?
B) OK then, what day do you worship on? Saturday or Sunday?
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justasking4
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I know lots of catholics have their own personal views about what the their church teaches and sometimes its not in harmony with what their church says. i don’t think most catolics know their catechism that well.
Both at times.
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KJK80
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I do my best not to say anything in opposition of the Catechism.
Regardless of “at times” what is your primary “high day” of worship? Answer the question directly, Saturday or Sunday…
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Harold_Lance
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The Body of Christ, the Universal Chruch of Jesus Christ.
What are the signs, Jesus Christ. The Body of Christ.
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guanophore
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Yes, most certainly so. The Letters of John contain many statements specifically directed to combat the Gnostic heresies which were rampant at the time.
Not really. John is writing to Christians who are being bombarded with Gnostic influences. The Jews and the Muslims did not have the revelation of God as a father. You can’t fault people for not rising to standards they did not receive.
Most Muslims do not know the Gospel, as it is illegal to preach it in many countries. I am sure there are some Muslims who have heard the Gospel and rejected it. Those persons are more culpable.
Don’t you believe they get a lot of misinformation about this?
You and I can look back and see this through the lens of Christ’s teaching, but it was not evident to the Jews or the Muslims. In fact, the Jews were so anti-pluralistic about God that this was one of the main reasons Jesus was crucified.
Yes, there is some butchered Christianity worked into it.
When you get back from your missionary journey to Iraq, Iran, and Saudi Arabia, we will talk.
Personally, I don’t find Islam a well formed theological system at all. It teaches that Jesus is a prophet of God, but denies what He said about Himself.
She said that their concept of God is very close. They both God their concepts of God from Abraham.
I don’t think so, because your interpretation of them is not consistent with the beliefs of those who wrote the NT.
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justasking4
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What are the doctrines of a true church?
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justasking4
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Huh???
If you look at what catholics believe about Mary, purgatory, indulgences, treasury of merit, praying the rosary, the pople etc you will ffind that those who wrote the NT never believed such doctrines and practices as these.
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KJK80
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c’mon, ja4, where’s my answer? 
Saturday or Sunday?
Saturday or Sunday?
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justasking4
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No need to go to another country to know what they believe. Here is a short list of what they believe:
Five Pillars of Islam (Arabic: أركان الإسلام) is the term given to the five duties incumbent on every Muslim. These duties are:
- Shahadah (profession of faith)
- Salat (ritual prayer five times each day)
- Sawm (fasting during Ramadan)
- Zakat (Islamic tax or tithing)
- Hajj (Pilgrimage to Mecca at least once during life).
Belief in One and Only God, constitutes the very foundation of Islam. There is no deity except God. He is indivisible and absolutely transcendent…
This last statement is a direct denial of the Trinity.
You might want to read up on this. There is a well defined theology in Islam. See above for an example.
You could say the same thing about the Mormon god also. Being close in the concept is still not the same. Its the differences that should tell you that they are not the same thing.
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justasking4
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Both are permissible. Most protestants would worship on Sunday.
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KJK80
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Which do you worship on? Are you part of the “most protestants” or not?
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submittedjoy
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Where is it confirmed in the Bible? Shouldn’t the Church and the Bible agree?The Church teaches me.
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justinthemartyr
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Fortunately, the God of Christianity is defined exactly the same. Undivided, One God almighty. There is no deity except God.
the only real difference is the understanding of the Divine Persons within the Godhead, and the fact that we as Christians have a loving Father as our God, and muslims have a more distant non personal God who is only an authority and judge. Certainly not a Father figure.
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cascherman
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So what you are saying is every small minute detail about what the apostles believed was indeed written down and is in the New Testament?Huh???
By our common Christian interpretation (protestant and Catholic alike) Jesus is obviously, irrefutably, and simply God. But, many sects and groups use the same (or very similar) Bible to prove that Jesus is not God.
Is it possible that that same ‘obvious’ interpretation formula could be applied to this situation? We (Catholics) find great evidence for purgatory, our beliefs about Mary, indulgences, good works, and the pope, you do not. Could it be simply that you just have a different Bible-view (a knock off of world view) and you view everything through those lenses? Are you sure you are viewing the Bible with the correct lenses? As a past-Lutheran I can say that the Bible makes the most sense between the two with Catholic glasses on.
BTW, praying and how to do it is not dictated down to the words we use in the Bible. So there is nothing non-biblical about the Rosary.
In conclusion, I doubt it is safe for you to assume the apostles included everything they believed down to the minutiae of thought. Especially since many of the twelve don’t even get an inclusion in the New Testament. What is the point of Jesus even having apostles, why not just a scribe to write down his every move?
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