Is Jesus God or the Son Of God

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So many places in the Bible Jesus calls himself the son of God or the son of man, even the Apostles call him the son of God.
So how do I defend that he IS God not the son of God or “a” God.
 
Jesus is God, and God the Son. There are three Persons in the Blessed Trinity, “really distinct and equal in all things.”
 
He also calls himself “I AM” in the gospels which is a name God used for himself in scripture.
 
Mae68 said:
So many places in the Bible Jesus calls himself the son of God or the son of man, even the Apostles call him the son of God.
So how do I defend that he IS God not the son of God or “a” God.
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Jesus is God incarnate. God taking human flesh.
“Son of man” emphasizes this full human nature. This is the point of the genealogies in scripture.

Two natures, one divine person in Jesus.

“Son of God” expresses in human words the intimacy of the Trinity. The language is familial, but not in a strictly human sense, since we are obviously talking about a deep divine mystery.
Son of God expresses a loving union so deep that the love is a third person, the Holy Spirit.
 
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So how do I defend that he IS God not the son of God or “a” God.
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John 5:18 This was why the Jews sought all the more to kill him, because he not only broke the sabbath but also called God his Father, making himself equal with God.
 
I was 22 years as a Jehovah’s Witness so I am well versed in Arian beliefs. Religions who teach this need to bend the bible to make the deity of Christ invalid. There are so many places where Jesus divinity are alluded to and yet he never corrects those who speak of it.

John chapter 20 when Thomas speaks of his divinity is a very strong example of such.
https://carm.org/biblical-response-to-jehovahs-witnesses
by Matt Slick
12/6/2008
 
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To what the other said, remember that in most of these comparisons, it is usually a both-and case, not an either-or case. So, Jesus is BOTH God, AND Son of God. You don’t have to pick just one.
 
Thank you…my JW friend still says that Jesus is a God
Not THE God.
 
There’s only one God. Bible is pretty clear on that.

The JW Bible fudged the translation. In John for instance, instead of saying the Word was with God and the Word was God, it says the Word was a god. Silly, yet also tragic.
 
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There’s only one God. Bible is pretty clear on that.

The JW Bible fudged the translation. In John for instance, instead of saying the Word was with God and the Word was God, it says the Word was a god. Silly, yet also tragic.
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Wow, I didn’t know that. That is awful.
 
That’s not really true.

Christians have always known there was One God, and that Jesus was a Divine figure. It wasn’t defined formally until the need for it arised in the Arian heresy, but the fact of Jesus being Divine and the Son of God is found throughout Church History.
 
Kei said:
That’s not really true.

Christians have always known there was One God, and that Jesus was a Divine figure. It wasn’t defined formally until the need for it arised in the Arian heresy, but the fact of Jesus being Divine and the Son of God is found throughout Church History.
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Actually, it seems quite clear that the gospel writers disagreed to the “sense” that Jesus was god.

Mark seemed to think Jesus was adopted to be God’s son at his baptism. Luke thought that Jesus was conceived by God and so was literally God’s son, from the point of his conception, but not beforehand. For John, Jesus was a pre-existent divine being – the Word of God who was both with God and was God at the beginning of all things – who then became a human.

A “rising” Christology was a theme to the Bible writers and the church itself up until the declaration of the Trinity.
 
It’s not quite like that. You seem to be under the impression they necessarily had almost competing ideas, rather than one multi-faceted understanding of the Great Mystery of the Word.

Also, I completely disagree with the idea of Mark saying He was adopted at Baptism, and it would be tad ridiculous with how often baptism occurred in such a manner.
 
Kei said:
It’s not quite like that. You seem to be under the impression they necessarily had almost competing ideas, rather than one multi-faceted understanding of the Great Mystery of the Word.

Also, I completely disagree with the idea of Mark saying He was adopted at Baptism, and it would be tad ridiculous with how often baptism occurred in such a manner.
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Each gospel writer had their own story to tell. If you do not read them in that manner, you miss the essence of the story they were attempting to portray.
 
Everyone has their own story to tell. Traditionally, it was understood they were each writing for a different audience as well.

It is hard to explain a third dimensional object to a 2 dimensional being.
 
Kei said:
Everyone has their own story to tell. Traditionally, it was understood they were each writing for a different audience as well.

It is hard to explain a third dimensional object to a 2 dimensional being.
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Shouldn’t be too difficult to derive at an accurate story if divinely inspired.
 
Well, when dealing with Divine things beyond human understanding it may seem a bit difficult without Divine Guidance, but it wasn’t too difficult to see the Truth as infallibly declared by His Church, so that there is even less excuse.
 
Mae68 said:
So many places in the Bible Jesus calls himself the son of God or the son of man, even the Apostles call him the son of God.

So how do I defend that he IS God not the son of God or “a” God.
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John.10
[30] I and the Father are one."

GOD IS ONE

Father, Son and Holy Spirit: Co-equal and Co-eternal

Easter Blessings
 
Is Jesus a man, or the Son of Man?

My father is a son of man as much as I am a son of man. Jesus is God as His Father is God.

The “son” in the title is used to describe Jesus’ relationship to His Father. He and the Father are of the same essence.
 
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