Is Judas in heaven?

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I was wondering, is Judas in heaven? It says in the Bible he was sent to betray Jesus. Jesus knew he was gonna get betrayed. Also, its says the Devil entered Judas. It never says that Judas believed that Jesus was the Savior. It says that Jesus chose Judas. Did he choose Judas because he knew he was a instrument in the completion of salvation? Did Judas go to heaven? Please help
 
  1. Nobody here on Earth knows if Judas was saved or not. We can hope and pray for that, certainly.
 
Hard to think of Judas going to heaven after what Jesus said of his betrayer.
The Son of man goes as it is written of him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! It would have been better for that man if he had not been born." Judas, who betrayed him, said, “Is it I, Master?” He said to him, “You have said so.” (Matthew 26:24-25)
 
I second what Todd said. Jesus wouldn’t have said it were better for him to never have been born unless he was damned. Im more concerned about Pilate, myself.
 
We don’t know if Judas is in heaven or not. I read that Jesus could have said that it would have been better if Judas had not been born because hten he would not have gone to Purgatory as long.
 
If judas went to hell it wasn’t for the betrayal of Christ, but for the sin of dispair. And, this may have been what Christ was speaking of, because Christ knew exactly who would betray him, and the circumstances, so his comments could have been expressing the woe of Judas for his dispair, and committing suicide because he could not accept that any wrong doing could be forgiven, if he had asked for forgiveness.
 
That doesn’t make any sense! The souls in Purgatory are still members of the Church, and any day for one of the elect is good. The ONLY reason its better not to be born is if you’re damned. The only thing worse than never existing and therefore never beholding the Beatific Vision is being eternally without Him, yet alive. The souls in Purgatory, no matter how long and painful their stay, will someday be with God in glory. Why would it EVER be better for them not to have been born?
 
People say Protestants love Paul, but that’s because he wrote such good stuff. Paul wrote in Romans that the men who crucified Jesus were hardened by God so that Jesus sacrifice would be completed. After Jesus fulfilled His ministry, Paul wrote that God’s mercy was available to them just like everyone else.

Rom 11:30 For just as you were at one time disobedient to God but now have received mercy because of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now been disobedient in order that by the mercy shown to you they also may now receive mercy. 32 For God has consigned all to disobedience, that he may have mercy on all.
The problem with Judas is that he killed himself after betraying Jesus. Had he repented and asked forgiveness he would have been welcomed back by the apostles. Peter was no less in danger of hell after denying Jesus, since Jesus said He would deny to the Father those who denied Him to men. But Jesus reinstate Peter later. Paul persecuted, jailed and killed Christian and he was forgiven; we betray Jesus every time we sin and are forgiven. But Judas didn’t choose that path and gave in to despair, not trusting in God’s forgiveness. I would have to say I doubt Judas is in heaven.
 
stevekehl said:
The problem with Judas is that he killed himself after betraying Jesus. Had he repented and asked forgiveness he would have been welcomed back by the apostles. Peter was no less in danger of hell after denying Jesus, since Jesus said He would deny to the Father those who denied Him to men. But Jesus reinstate Peter later. Paul persecuted, jailed and killed Christian and he was forgiven; we betray Jesus every time we sin and are forgiven. But Judas didn’t choose that path and gave in to despair, not trusting in God’s forgiveness. I would have to say I doubt Judas is in heaven.
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This. I forget who said this, but a priest (or bishop?) once said that Judas may have been a saint had he truly repented and not killed himself.
 
littlenothing said:
I second what Todd said. Jesus wouldn’t have said it were better for him to never have been born unless he was damned. Im more concerned about Pilate, myself.
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But were it not for Judas, we would not have had the crucifixion which lead to Christ’s resurrection and therefore, our salvation. If it weren’t Judas, it would have had to be someone. If we read what Christ said about it being better to never have been born as being an indication of Judas being damned with certainty, then where does free will lie? Was he simply destined (or dare I say, predestined) to do this and therefore never even had a chance at heaven? Further, if he is only evil, why did he feel such bitter remorse for his actions?
 
I once heard that only one difference seperated Peter from Judas. Peter repented. Both of their sins was heinous, but Peter repented. For he went out and wept bitterrly! Judas on the other hand, just couldnt think that an offense against the LORD of this magnitude was forgivable, I am more than certain that had Judas went back, and asked the LORD for his forgiveness, Mercy would have been Judas’s. I am also sure that Judas would have become a Huge saint!! as if Judas would have repented, he would have been forgiven much, and so would have loved much. In my opinion, i think that if he had repented, he would be up there with Peter, Paul and John. However, hes not… 🤷 😦
 
No offense to the OP, but could the moderators here put a ban on threads about the eternal fate of Judas.? We simply don’t know where he is, the Church hasn’t spoken one way or the other. All we can do is needlessly speculate. Seems the question pops up every three days or so. There is so much more to our faith than Judas.
 
Ophelia23 said:
But were it not for Judas, we would not have had the crucifixion which lead to Christ’s resurrection and therefore, our salvation. If it weren’t Judas, it would have had to be someone. If we read what Christ said about it being better to never have been born as being an indication of Judas being damned with certainty, then where does free will lie? Was he simply destined (or dare I say, predestined) to do this and therefore never even had a chance at heaven? Further, if he is only evil, why did he feel such bitter remorse for his actions?
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Oh happy fault, o necessary sin of Adam, right? But that doesn’t mean that God was somehow compelled to have salvation history unfold in the way that it did. God lives outside of time. He saw what Judas did, perhaps from the moment Judas was created. That doesn’t mean Judas had no free will. It means that God sees our lives in their entirety, whereas we only see things in the context of the time and space that constrains us.

Judas had every chance to choose God, to choose to ask for His mercy. He did not. He is damned.
 
I hope he’s not condemned to hell since I’ve always felt bad for the guy. But God can do anything so the least one can do is pray. A plenary indulgence perhaps? I can’t imagine that a lot of people pray for his soul in the first place.
 
littlenothing said:
That doesn’t make any sense! The souls in Purgatory are still members of the Church, and any day for one of the elect is good. The ONLY reason its better not to be born is if you’re damned. The only thing worse than never existing and therefore never beholding the Beatific Vision is being eternally without Him, yet alive. The souls in Purgatory, no matter how long and painful their stay, will someday be with God in glory. Why would it EVER be better for them not to have been born?
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Yeah, I was going to say the same thing…makes no sense.

It doesn’t look very good for Judas…
 
onjac said:
I hope he’s not condemned to hell since I’ve always felt bad for the guy. But God can do anything so the least one can do is pray. A plenary indulgence perhaps? I can’t imagine that a lot of people pray for his soul in the first place.
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I’ve always felt sorry for him too. 😦
 
Robertanthony said:
No offense to the OP, but could the moderators here put a ban on threads about the eternal fate of Judas.? We simply don’t know where he is, the Church hasn’t spoken one way or the other. All we can do is needlessly speculate. Seems the question pops up every three days or so. There is so much more to our faith than Judas.
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No offence to you, but I was reading the book of John this week thats why I asked. I was told by a moderator, as long as the question was appropriate for the forum in which I posted, I should as questions about my faith/scripture. If you feel something is repetitive maybe you should just skip over it. I have asked many other questions too!! 😦
 
Thanks to most of you!! I was reading John. I was wondering about him. Thanks for not thinking my question was dumb. It is really hard to understand the interpretation of things SOMETIMES because I was a “Cradle” Cheaster Catholic when I was young then I went to the Calvinisit Church and College for sometime before I came back. Interpertation could be different. I have already noticed that in a lot of interperatations of scripture. 😉
 
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