Is Lent Over?

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i say not until easter. has it been 40 days?
whats a few more day to refrain from sweets?
jesus gave his life for you and you cant give up sweets for a few more days?
anyways you could have what you gave up on Sundays during lent.
 
i say not until easter. has it been 40 days?
whats a few more day to refrain from sweets?
jesus gave his life for you and you cant give up sweets for a few more days?
anyways you could have what you gave up on Sundays during lent.
Try following what the Church teaches. i.e, at the start of Holy Thursday Mass, i.e., the beginning of the Tridium, the Holiest Liturgical Season of the Year. In this short time, we have the Institution of the Eucharist, the Crucifixion which gave us justification and ability to be saved, the Resurrection which Lets us have eternal life.
Deacon Ed B
 
Try following what the Church teaches. i.e, at the start of Holy Thursday Mass, i.e., the beginning of the Tridium, the Holiest Liturgical Season of the Year. In this short time, we have the Institution of the Eucharist, the Crucifixion which gave us justification and ability to be saved, the Resurrection which Lets us have eternal life.
Deacon Ed B
Can you cite where the Church teaches what you have written. Yes the Tridum starts on Holy Thursday, but from what I have read the Lenten penance continues until after the Saturday Easter Vigil, even though the new season has started. Lets not forget that one of the only two fast and abstinence days for the Church now is on Good Friday the second day of the Tridum. Thank you in advance if you can find that.
 
I will simply point out what my pastor and other pastors have said, which is essentially what I stated. A person who gives up something for lent can stop that penance with the Mass of the Holy Eucharist on Holy Thursday. If they care to carry it further, they may do so, for extra grace. Good Friday, is a day of solemnity, as it recalls the Passion and Death of Jesus on the Cross, is a day on which no mass is celebrated. The only such day during the year. Here we have the veneration of the Cross with a Eucharistic Service. Yes we have fast and total abstinence on Good Friday, for this very reason. Holy Saturday, - as one priest put it - Have at it. But not to gluttonous excess. The source of this information I quoted is on the (Private) memo to clergy put out quarterly by the archdiocese. All diocese do this once a quarter, as it contains much info about suspensions, faculties removed, feasts, reassignments, etc.
Deacon Ed B
 
So Jesus turned water into wine for the nutritional value?
Nice, touche…

I assume Jesus never laughed either, since that would have been pleasurable.

Seeing as how He enjoyed prayer, He probably didn’t pray very much either. Too much pleasure.
 
I will simply point out what my pastor and other pastors have said, which is essentially what I stated. A person who gives up something for lent can stop that penance with the Mass of the Holy Eucharist on Holy Thursday. If they care to carry it further, they may do so, for extra grace. Good Friday, is a day of solemnity, as it recalls the Passion and Death of Jesus on the Cross, is a day on which no mass is celebrated. The only such day during the year. Here we have the veneration of the Cross with a Eucharistic Service. Yes we have fast and total abstinence on Good Friday, for this very reason. Holy Saturday, - as one priest put it - Have at it. But not to gluttonous excess. The source of this information I quoted is on the (Private) memo to clergy put out quarterly by the archdiocese. All diocese do this once a quarter, as it contains much info about suspensions, faculties removed, feasts, reassignments, etc.
Deacon Ed B
The problem is different diocese put out information that varies especially on this topic, so it is a stretch to say this is what the Church teaches, this is what your diocese teaches. Some diocese don’t end Lenten sacrafices until Easter Sunday. That is why I was interested in your “Church teaching” It would be nice if the Vatican clarified this interesting yearly debate.
 
Nice, touche…
I assume Jesus never laughed either, since that would have been pleasurable.

Seeing as how He enjoyed prayer, He probably didn’t pray very much either. Too much pleasure.
Pleasure is not sin per se.

“Pope Innocent XI has condemned the proposition which asserts that it is not a sin to eat or to drink from the sole motive of satisfying the palate. However, it is not a fault to feel pleasure in eating: for it is, generally speaking, impossible to eat without experiencing the delight which food naturally produces. But it is a defect to eat, like beasts, through the sole motive of sensual gratification, and without any reasonable object. Hence, the most delicious meats may be eaten without sin, if the motive be good and worthy of a rational creature; and, in taking the coarsest food through attachment to pleasure, there may be a fault.”

From: books.google.com/books?id=srPUGnO3xs4C&pg=PA282&dq=coarsest+food+through+attachment+to+pleasure&ei=ugb5R6mTD4fQigGi0OnyCQ#PPA282,M1

Our Lord didn’t feel sensible consolation in the prayer at the Garden of Gethsemani.

St. John Chrysostom pointed out that Our Lord wept twice in the bible but didn’t laugh.

Ecclesiasticus 21:23: A fool lifteth up his voice in laughter: but a wise man will scarce laugh low to himself.
In Latin: 23 Fátuus in risu exáltat vocem suam :
vir autem sápiens vix with difficulty, not easily; reluctantly] tácite [silently, secretly] ridébit [laugh].

Ver. 23. Low. A smiling countenance is commendable, but loud laughter is to be avoided. (Clement, Pæd. ii. 5.) — It causes too great a change, (Plato, Rep. 3.) and is a mark of folly, Ecclesiastes vii. 5. (St. Augustine, contra Acad. ii. 2.)

Clement of Alexandria: "For the seemly relaxation of the countenance in a harmonious manner—as of a musical instrument—is called a smile. So also is laughter on the face of well-regulated men termed. But the discordant relaxation of countenance in the case of women is called a giggle, and is meretricious laughter; in the case of men, a guffaw, and is savage and insulting laughter. “A fool raises his voice in laughter,” Sirach 21:20 says the Scripture; but a clever man smiles almost imperceptibly. The clever man in this case he calls wise, inasmuch as he is differently affected from the fool. But, on the other hand, one needs not be gloomy, only grave. For I certainly prefer a man to smile who has a stern countenance than the reverse; for so his laughter will be less apt to become the object of ridicule.

Smiling even requires to be made the subject of discipline. If it is at what is disgraceful, we ought to blush rather than smile, lest we seem to take pleasure in it by sympathy; if at what is painful, it is fitting to look sad rather than to seem pleased. For to do the former is a sign of rational human thought; the other infers suspicion of cruelty.

We are not to laugh perpetually, for that is going beyond bounds; nor in the presence of elderly persons, or others worthy of respect, unless they indulge in pleasantry for our amusement. Nor are we to laugh before all and sundry, nor in every place, nor to every one, nor about everything. For to children and women especially laughter is the cause of slipping into scandal. And even to appear stern serves to keep those about us at their distance. For gravity can ward off the approaches of licentiousness by a mere look.
 
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