Is lust the only reason people contracept?

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The only boyfriend I had (before I was married) didn’t understand chastity. I lent him a book about chastity and he didn’t read it. It was very hard for me to say no to sex when he wasn’t also committed to chastity. That’s a bad excuse…anyway, our relationship was ruined because we fell into sexual sin with condoms, and I eventually saw him as a sex object, even when he was very depressed. My husband and I will never contracept. I’m wondering - is lust the only reason people contracept?
 
Due to the Billion Dollar industry of contraceptives, some people just don’t know of any other method. There are a lot of couples who do love each other, but simply aren’t exposed to Natural Family Methods.

But yeah… lust is there.
 
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coralewisjr:
I’m wondering - is lust the only reason people contracept?
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I suppose there is such thing as a true anti-child mentality, which of course would mean people having sex and trying to dodge the natural good consequences. But you could easily argue that that kicks back to lust.

Scott
 
Scott Waddell:
I suppose there is such thing as a true anti-child mentality, which of course would mean people having sex and trying to dodge the natural good consequences. But you could easily argue that that kicks back to lust.

Scott
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I guess lack of responsibility and self-restraint play roles, too. Fear of pregnancy leads people to contracept when they don’t pray enough to be chaste. Maybe that explains the contraceptive mentality, which sees preborn children as diseases and leads to abortion as a backup.
 
What amazes me is how many contraceptive couples really don’t have sex that often. If you are going to take the Pill on a dailiy basis, or have something iserted 24/7 in your body should you get the most out of it? We are currently abstaining during fertile phases, but it comes out to a number of time that many contraceptive couples would love to achieve.
 
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renee1258:
What amazes me is how many contraceptive couples really don’t have sex that often. If you are going to take the Pill on a dailiy basis, or have something iserted 24/7 in your body should you get the most out of it? We are currently abstaining during fertile phases, but it comes out to a number of time that many contraceptive couples would love to achieve.
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You’ve hit on a major point often overlooked–contraception turns sex into mutual masturbation, and as such makes one or the other (or both) ask why even bother with the mutual part.

Scott
 
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coralewisjr:
is lust the only reason people contracept?
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If they are not married (to each other), yes, if they are married, yes. They have put their sexual urges ahead of all other concerns.
 
For most people, contraception is about planned parenthood (not capitalized). Responsible people recognize that sex can lead to pregnancy, and that a wanted and planned pregnancy is a much better thing than an unwanted pregnancy. A young married couple with limited income understandably may want to delay pregnancy for a while until resources are available to support the child. An older but still fertile couple may want to not have any more kids, again because of resources, or perhaps health.
 
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norbert:
For most people, contraception is about planned parenthood (not capitalized). Responsible people recognize that sex can lead to pregnancy, and that a wanted and planned pregnancy is a much better thing than an unwanted pregnancy. A young married couple with limited income understandably may want to delay pregnancy for a while until resources are available to support the child. An older but still fertile couple may want to not have any more kids, again because of resources, or perhaps health.
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Norbert, have you heard of Natural Family Planning? It is the moral alternative to contraception in marriage. I know plenty of couples who practice NFP and they are responsible. I think that they are also closer (as married couples) than couples who contracept (that includes sterilization).
 
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coralewisjr:
Norbert, have you heard of Natural Family Planning? It is the moral alternative to contraception in marriage. I know plenty of couples who practice NFP and they are responsible. I think that they are also closer (as married couples) than couples who contracept (that includes sterilization).
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Is lust the only reason people use Natural Family Planning?
 
Hmmm…well I have 2 issues here.

First…some people have serious physical problems that pregnancy would aggravate.

Second…while I realize NFP is affective -it is only affective when both people are 100% dedicated to it 100% of the time.
And the truth is…it is precisely during the fertile period when most couples have the most desire to have sex.
So…the key factor here is self discipline and mutual will power which ain’t always that easy.
 
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norbert:
For most people, contraception is about planned parenthood (not capitalized). Responsible people recognize that sex can lead to pregnancy, and that a wanted and planned pregnancy is a much better thing than an unwanted pregnancy. A young married couple with limited income understandably may want to delay pregnancy for a while until resources are available to support the child. An older but still fertile couple may want to not have any more kids, again because of resources, or perhaps health.
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Knock, knock …hello …has anyone told you about the virtue of marital chastity and self-mastery, so as the marital exhange of sexuality can become a gift, a mutual giving. Otherwise with contracepting couples, it will inevitably digress to/never progress past mutual taking. Such couples are short changing themselves out of the true fullness of marital sexual love. Good intentions do not change the God’s design for conjugal fidelity and fecundity in marriage.
For more see the Catechism of the Catholic Church #2364 - 2372.
 
I think it’s fear, ignorance and selfishness…fear of pregnancy (and the unknown responsibility), ignorance of a better way, and selfishly thinking it’s “all about me”.
 
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felra:
Knock, knock …hello …has anyone told you about the virtue of marital chastity and self-mastery, so as the marital exhange of sexuality can become a gift, a mutual giving. Otherwise with contracepting couples, it will inevitably digress to/never progress past mutual taking. Such couples are short changing themselves out of the true fullness of marital sexual love. Good intentions do not change the God’s design for conjugal fidelity and fecundity in marriage.
For more see the Catechism of the Catholic Church #2364 - 2372.
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Well said!
 
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felra:
Knock, knock …hello …has anyone told you about the virtue of marital chastity and self-mastery, so as the marital exhange of sexuality can become a gift, a mutual giving. Otherwise with contracepting couples, it will inevitably digress to/never progress past mutual taking. Such couples are short changing themselves out of the true fullness of marital sexual love. Good intentions do not change the God’s design for conjugal fidelity and fecundity in marriage.
For more see the Catechism of the Catholic Church #2364 - 2372.
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I don’t get what you’re saying here. Why does contraception digress to “mutual taking” and natural family planning does not? What is the “true fullness of marital sexual love?” Is that something that must involve unplanned pregnancy? I thought sex does not always have to be about procreation, but that it can exist to further the loving bond between a man and woman.
 
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MooCowSteph:
I think it’s fear, ignorance and selfishness…fear of pregnancy (and the unknown responsibility), ignorance of a better way, and selfishly thinking it’s “all about me”.
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Steph -
Your signature is probably not going to be included in your message, but I agree 100% with Ms. Schlafly - “every woman doesn’t need a baby, but every baby needs a mother.” Many women recognize that they don’t need babies - because they don’t have the resources or the time to support them, or maybe because they are too young or old, or perhaps they are mentally or physically ill. Responsible women in those circumstances heed the advice of Phyllis Schlafly and do what they can to prevent unwanted pregnancy.
 
I “contracept” so I don’t have 15+ children. I have 2.5 children and am satisfied with the 2.5 I have. I contracept to keep it that way.
 
Steph, I agree. It may sometimes be about lust; but I think usually it is just fear. Which is really nothing more than a lack of trust in God’s providence in our lives, his will for us. We will always have a tendency to think our will is ‘smarter’. Human folly.

Our culture is very offended by fertile couples. Don’t ever doubt the nasty comments you will receive from people you don’t even know if you EVER have more than 4 kids in tow.

I had my last-so far- at 40. I received many, many comments from people who couldn’t understand if I was stupid or what. I got so tired of answering the question, “was this an accident?”. No, he is not an accident. His name is Noah. He is an absolute blessing to our lives.

My biggest regret is that we were so proficient with NFP-and occasional periods of cheating- that we did not have more. We only have 3. I am sad about that. But we tend to worry about the size of our houses and the make of our car and think those things make us responsible. I know so many miserable, lonely couples-who never have sex anyway, by the way-who were too scared and frankly selfish to be open to life.

PS- praying for a ++++ for you soon. GOD BLESS, Paula
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MooCowSteph:
I think it’s fear, ignorance and selfishness…fear of pregnancy (and the unknown responsibility), ignorance of a better way, and selfishly thinking it’s “all about me”.
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Lilyofthevalley:
I “contracept” so I don’t have 15+ children. I have 2.5 children and am satisfied with the 2.5 I have. I contracept to keep it that way.
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Natural Family Planning can do the same thing. By the way, how do you have half a child? Do you have two children already born and one in utero?
 
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