Is Modern Music Evil?

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Scott Waddell:
You might want to check out Allan Bloom’s Closing of the American Mind and chapter 2 on music. He essentially makes the argument (actually Plato’s argument) that music (irrespective of lyrics) has direct access to the soul and thus has the power to exalt it or warp it. Good read even if it doesn’t quite establish the case since it is considering something hard to pin down rationally.

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I believe some greeks even thought that certain keys (or modes as they might be called in music theory) were intrinsically evil, and should not be taught, which is of course pure and utter nonsense! 😃
 
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InSearchOfGod:
I believe some greeks even thought that certain keys (or modes as they might be called in music theory) were intrinsically evil, and should not be taught, which is of course pure and utter nonsense! 😃
Those ideas did not stay with the greeks. At various times the elements of the Church have at least very strongly suggested that certain modes not be used. I believe that certain intervals where frowned upon, particularly the tri-tone (the interval formed by taking the root of an octave and the note exactly in the center of the octave.)
 
Fr. Gabriel Amorth a leading Catholic exorcist has much to say about modern music in one of his books. I am too tired tonight to dig that book out and type here what he says. I will tomorrow sometime as soon as I have a chance. Hang in there. I would stick to classical or Christian music in the meantime.
 
From An Exorcist More Stories by Fr. Gabriele Amorth

Nefarious influence of certain music


In the United States there exists an association of witches and other adherents to the occult called WICCA, which has now expanded internationally. This organization boasts many members. It is said that they own three record companies produce each record with the goal of contributing to corruption and inner disintegration of the psychology young people. They practice satanism and consecrate themselves to the person of Satan. Every one of their records describes with precision the inner condition necessary for a disciple of Satan and invites everyone to celebrate his glory**;** honor, and praise… Because they are consecrated to the cult of Satan, they also disseminate their satanic principles in many of their songs-even if not in all of their music. These organizations] produce music with a single purpose: to lead youth into satanism, that is, Satan’s cult.Records consecrated to Satan are based on the following four principles:

*Beat. *The first important item is the rhythm, called beat, which mimics the sexual act. Abruptly, the listeners arecaught up in a frenzy designed to produce a sort of hysteria. It is the result of the sexual instinct, which is aroused through the use of beat.

*Volume intensity. *The volume is deliberately set to at least seven decibels above the tolerance level of our nervous system. Prolonged exposure to such a noise level induces a type of depression, rebelliousness, and aggression. When this happens, we tell ourselves, without realizing the implications: “After all, I did nothing wrong. I only listened to music the entire evening.” (Many educators and parents who are completely in the dark about the reality of these records are under the same delusion.) On the contrary! We become victims of a well-devised and calculated strategy to bypass the nervous system and achieve a precise goal: to bring the audiences into a state of disorder and confusion. At this point, the listeners, in a frenzy to actualize the beat, the rhythm they have heard all evening, risk being lured as new recruits into the ranks of Satan’s apprentices, and then the songwriters will have realized their ultimate goal.

*Subliminal signal: *the third principle. Subliminal signs are transmitted at such a high pitch that we are unable to hear them. The signal is meant to disorient; at an intensity of 3,000 kilocycles per second, it acts on our unconscious, but our ears cannot capture it precisely because it is supersonic. Unbeknownst to us, the brain produces a natural drug as a result of the stimuli it receives, and it disorients us. Suddenly, we feel strange. This strange feeling induces us to seek real drugs and causes drug addicts to increase their intake.

*Ritual consecration of every record during a black mass. *This is the fourth element. Before each record is released on the market, it is consecrated to Satan through a ritual that is a true black mass.

If you ever take the time to analyze the words of these songs [words that may be hidden and only perceptible by listening to the record backwards], you will realize that the general subject is always the same: rebellion against parents, against society, against all that exists; the unleashing of all sexual instincts; and the urge to create an anarchist state with the ultimate triumph of Satan’s universal kingdom. A few songs are hymns specifically dedicated to Satan.

After what we have said, who would dare to deny the danger of the evil one’s influence? He can count on many accomplices on the way to rebellion and hatred. In Revelation, we read: “Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus” (Rev I2:I7).

Does all the modern music we listen to fall into all the above mentioned categories. I doubt it but with these ideas in mind I keep my listening to a minimum. I have in fact, reduced the amount of modern music I listen to zero. I prefer silence or Christian music. Keep in mind too that a ‘favorite’ artist might have one astoundingly beautiful song but the rest of his/her songs are evil. Don’t be fooled.
 
Music is not intrinsically evil. Nevertheless, I don’t think it can be denied that music has a direct connection to emotion. In that respect it has a mood, and a message. The question is, are these God given moods in their proper context? For example, is the anger and excitement brought about by a thunderous drum roll and screaming guitar righteous? Is the sexual rhythm of a pulsating base made for a marital union of love?

Like all forms of modern media, the mood and message are most often the basest ones. That is easiest and it sells. Like every magazine, TV show, movie, etc., men respond most directly to images of sex and violence. Women respond to images of romance and sex (…well I don’t understand women as well; what do soaps portray? wealth, power, suffering?) Anyway, this is why rock and roll, and sappy love songs are so popular.

Is this music evil because it appeals to our animal side? Mostly, yes. But there are many exceptions. The greater evil is our over indulgence in it, and the commercial exploitation of the sexual instinct. Keep picking away at it, and we get down to the age old vices of gluttony, greed, lust, anger… Music is just another method.
 
I don’t listen to mordern music lately, its basically crappy with no thought or substance. 98% of the so called artists don’t even write their own lyrics and compostions.
 
contemplative said:
From An Exorcist More Stories by Fr. Gabriele Amorth

Nefarious influence of certain music


In the United States there exists an association of witches and other adherents to the occult called WICCA, which has now expanded internationally. This organization boasts many members. It is said that they own three record companies produce each record with the goal of contributing to corruption and inner disintegration of the psychology young people. They practice satanism and consecrate themselves to the person of Satan. Every one of their records describes with precision the inner condition necessary for a disciple of Satan and invites everyone to celebrate his glory**;** honor, and praise… Because they are consecrated to the cult of Satan, they also disseminate their satanic principles in many of their songs-even if not in all of their music. These organizations] produce music with a single purpose: to lead youth into satanism, that is, Satan’s cult.Records consecrated to Satan are based on the following four principles:

*Beat. *The first important item is the rhythm, called beat, which mimics the sexual act. Abruptly, the listeners arecaught up in a frenzy designed to produce a sort of hysteria. It is the result of the sexual instinct, which is aroused through the use of beat.

*Volume intensity. *The volume is deliberately set to at least seven decibels above the tolerance level of our nervous system. Prolonged exposure to such a noise level induces a type of depression, rebelliousness, and aggression. When this happens, we tell ourselves, without realizing the implications: “After all, I did nothing wrong. I only listened to music the entire evening.” (Many educators and parents who are completely in the dark about the reality of these records are under the same delusion.) On the contrary! We become victims of a well-devised and calculated strategy to bypass the nervous system and achieve a precise goal: to bring the audiences into a state of disorder and confusion. At this point, the listeners, in a frenzy to actualize the beat, the rhythm they have heard all evening, risk being lured as new recruits into the ranks of Satan’s apprentices, and then the songwriters will have realized their ultimate goal.

*Subliminal signal: *the third principle. Subliminal signs are transmitted at such a high pitch that we are unable to hear them. The signal is meant to disorient; at an intensity of 3,000 kilocycles per second, it acts on our unconscious, but our ears cannot capture it precisely because it is supersonic. Unbeknownst to us, the brain produces a natural drug as a result of the stimuli it receives, and it disorients us. Suddenly, we feel strange. This strange feeling induces us to seek real drugs and causes drug addicts to increase their intake.

*Ritual consecration of every record during a black mass. *This is the fourth element. Before each record is released on the market, it is consecrated to Satan through a ritual that is a true black mass.

If you ever take the time to analyze the words of these songs [words that may be hidden and only perceptible by listening to the record backwards], you will realize that the general subject is always the same: rebellion against parents, against society, against all that exists; the unleashing of all sexual instincts; and the urge to create an anarchist state with the ultimate triumph of Satan’s universal kingdom. A few songs are hymns specifically dedicated to Satan.

After what we have said, who would dare to deny the danger of the evil one’s influence? He can count on many accomplices on the way to rebellion and hatred. In Revelation, we read: “Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus” (Rev I2:I7).

I have trouble believing that account, due to the fact that he says that Wiccans are explicit Satanists, which they are not.
 
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Prometheum_x:
I have trouble believing that account, due to the fact that he says that Wiccans are explicit Satanists, which they are not.
If Wicca doesn’t worsip the Father, Son and Holy Spirit then what would you say they worship? Read here. I am sure there is much more elsewhere.
 
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Prometheum_x:
I have trouble believing that account, due to the fact that he says that Wiccans are explicit Satanists, which they are not.
and again…
something more…

If Wicca doesn’t worship the Father, Son and Holy Spirit then what would you say they worship? Read here.
 
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cynic:
So?!? If it’s sensual, carnal, then it glorifies the flesh
The church does not view our bodies as evil. They are good because they are created by God. Therefore, they should be used to worship God. Things that inlvolve the body are not inheritly evil unless they are disordered actioins such as adultery and homosexuality. But music that gets people dancing is not bad at all. In the old Testament, king David danced before the ark of the covenant in honor of God.
 
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contemplative:
If Wicca doesn’t worsip the Father, Son and Holy Spirit then what would you say they worship? Read here. I am sure there is much more elsewhere.
All people who worship false gods are really worshiping demons. However, such people may not be explicitly worshiping deomons. They do not realize what they are doing at all, like explicit satanists do. In fact, Wiccens believe that they are worshiping a good goddess/god. They would not pruposely seek santanic worship like the artlice suggets and that really invalidates the article. Now, I am not saying that Wicca is a good religion. It is obviously evil because it is a heresy from the pit of hell. But that does not make the Wiccens explicit santanists.
 
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contemplative:
and again…
something more…

If Wicca doesn’t worship the Father, Son and Holy Spirit then what would you say they worship? Read here.
That article doesn’t really establish that Wicca is Satanism, only that there is a link between them, primarily because of the influence of Crowley. However, that isn’t really sufficient, because a group can be heavily influenced by someone without adopting all of their beliefs and practices.

An example of this is the Jehovah’s Witnesses. Originally founded by Charles Taze Russel, they have since distanced themselves from him.
 
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Fox:
I don’t listen to mordern music lately, its basically crappy with no thought or substance. 98% of the so called artists don’t even write their own lyrics and compostions.
I agree that music these days is mostly bad. I don´t agree that singers have to write their own compositions to be considered artists though, for example Frank Sinatra.
Of course I´m talking about very good singers. I agree that most of today entertainers are not very good singers, heck some of today´s “singers” don´t even sing at all.
 
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Prometheum_x:
That article doesn’t really establish that Wicca is Satanism, only that there is a link between them, primarily because of the influence of Crowley. However, that isn’t really sufficient, because a group can be heavily influenced by someone without adopting all of their beliefs and practices.
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I disagree. I say that it is safe to say that witchcraft (Wicca) goes hand in hand with satanism.
 
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Catolico:
I agree that music these days is mostly bad. I don´t agree that singers have to write their own compositions to be considered artists though, for example Frank Sinatra.
Of course I´m talking about very good singers. I agree that most of today entertainers are not very good singers, heck some of today´s “singers” don´t even sing at all.
This is true. The other issue is that the music business has changed. It is more of a business than an art form now. The promoters decide what the popular image is to be and they then push every performer into that mold. Everyone sounds mostly the same. The musicians themselves have much less control over their own music. How many truely unique-sounding artists or bands can you name that have been around for less than ten years? In the 70’s there were dozens of them. Only Rush sounds like Rush, only Yes sounds like Yes, only The Doors sound like The Doors, only Pink Floyd sounds like Pink Floyd, only Led Zeppelin sounds like Led Zeppelin, only Kansas sounds like Kansas, and on and on. That uniqueness of sound just does not exist any more except in the artists from then that are still around now.
 
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contemplative:
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Prometheum_x:
That article doesn’t really establish that Wicca is
Satanism, only that there is a link between them, primarily because of the influence of Crowley. However, that isn’t really sufficient, because a group can be heavily influenced by someone without adopting all of their beliefs and practices.
QUOTE]

I disagree. I say that it is safe to say that witchcraft (Wicca) goes hand in hand with satanism.

On what basis? Or are you very loosely using the term “satanism” to mean anything occultic with anti-Christian elements? If so, then fine; however, that doesn’t translate into explicit Satan worship.
 
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2shelbys:
This is true. The other issue is that the music business has changed. It is more of a business than an art form now. The promoters decide what the popular image is to be and they then push every performer into that mold. Everyone sounds mostly the same. The musicians themselves have much less control over their own music. How many truely unique-sounding artists or bands can you name that have been around for less than ten years? In the 70’s there were dozens of them. Only Rush sounds like Rush, only Yes sounds like Yes, only The Doors sound like The Doors, only Pink Floyd sounds like Pink Floyd, only Led Zeppelin sounds like Led Zeppelin, only Kansas sounds like Kansas, and on and on. That uniqueness of sound just does not exist any more except in the artists from then that are still around now.
A band doesn’t have to be unique to still be an artist.

Also, uniqueness of sound is definitely still around, and from younger artists as well. They may not be in the Top-40, but that whole aspect of the music business is changing with the greater integration of the internet in our lives. Now with fast computers and internet connections, every computer can become a radio station, and every amateur musician can broadcast their stuff at very little cost.
 
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Prometheum_x:
A band doesn’t have to be unique to still be an artist.

Also, uniqueness of sound is definitely still around, and from younger artists as well. They may not be in the Top-40, but that whole aspect of the music business is changing with the greater integration of the internet in our lives. Now with fast computers and internet connections, every computer can become a radio station, and every amateur musician can broadcast their stuff at very little cost.
uniqueness (or lack of) is irrelevant. Rock or Pop music is designed to inflame desires and glorify man… that’s why so many popular songs are melancholy aswell…they glorify our own feelings…

Isn’t music meant to be used soley for worship?

It doesn’t matter if it’s heavy metal, The Beatles, or modern lip-synced pop - its all an inherently egotistical expression.
 
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Prometheum_x:
On what basis? Or are you very loosely using the term “satanism” to mean anything occultic with anti-Christian elements? If so, then fine; however, that doesn’t translate into explicit Satan worship.
Fr. Gabriel Amorth has written two books. I suggest you read them to better understand what a Catholic exorcist views as satanic.
One thing I will share that Fr. Amorth writes is:
We will examine these specific powers in our explanation of witchcraft.
I will mention one more item on this subject. Just as it would be wrong to deny the existence of Satan, it is also wrong to accept the prevalent opinion that there are spiritual beings that are not mentioned in the Bible. These are the invention of spiritists, of followers of the occult, of those who espouse reincarnation, or of those who believe in “wandering souls”. There are no good spirits other than angels; there are no evil spirits other than demons.

And if that isn’t explicit enough information from a Catholic exorcist then try reading:
Dt 18:10-12
Lev 19:31
Lev 20:27
Lev 19:26-31
Ex 22:18
 
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