Are you a former Mormon Paul?Just wait…
Don’t forget the Mormon goddesses (unnamed).I recently had a conversation and it was brought up that the LDS believe that God has a father and he has a father and one is the god of the other. but only our God is our father and is the God of us. It seems like there are many gods and some are above the other almost making a Greek style mythology with diety fathers having human children. This is not Christian I don’t know what to call it.
Pretty close to me. I joined the church at age 21 (1994), served a mission to California. Married in the temple. Mostly served in the EQ, 1st Counselor and President.Yes, I was a convert to Mormonism at age 21. Served a mission to Taiwan, married in the temple, served many callings including Gospel Essentials teacher, Gospel Doctrines teacher, EQ president and 2nd Counselor in a bishopric.
Left the cult after learning the facts about LDS origins, history and doctrines.
Yea good point so the question to the LDS is “is there incest in heaven” and is there polygamy in heaven?The Mormon “Heavenly Father” is an ‘exalted’ man of flesh and bones. All Mormon males can achieve the same status if they practice the Mormon religion and tithe faithfully. They may become gods and rule over their own kingdom and have endless spirit children with their multiple goddess wives and live happily ever after.
They insist on calling their religion “Christian” because they believe in their version of Jesus Christ. Their “Trinity” is three separate gods – Heavenly Father (who has a father and grandfather, and great grandfather, ad infinitum); Jesus, brother of Satan and spirit-child of Heavenly Father, born on earth of the union of Heavenly Father and earthly Mary; and the Holy Spirit – but all spirit is matter, so their “Holy Spirit” is not what Christians understand.
References: Doctrine & Covenants; Gospel Principles, published by the LDS Church; The Teachings of Joseph Smith, Inside Mormonism by Isaiah Bennett
Jim Dandy
Edit to ask the Q – isn’t the birth of Jesus the result of an incestous relationship with Heavenly Father and his spirit-child daughter Mary?:whacky:
All these doctrines and practices came directly from between Joseph’s legs.Yea good point so the question to the LDS is “is there incest in heaven” and is there polygamy in heaven?
And where does this doctrine stem from other than Joseph Smith because it sure isn’t as far as i can tell Jewish or Christian.
lol.All these doctrines and practices came directly from between Joseph’s legs.
Stuck? Why are you “stuck”?Pretty close to me. I joined the church at age 21 (1994), served a mission to California. Married in the temple. Mostly served in the EQ, 1st Counselor and President.
Im currently “stuck” in the church due to my wife and child.
Their posts show that they aren’t “knowledgeable” in terms of knowing LDS doctrines, but they are “knowledgeable” in appearing so. To each their own.Can you knowledgeable folks recommend some reliable internet sites that list core LDS doctrines?
I didn’t see any mistakes in what they posted. Well, I think God having sex with Mary has been officially disavowed these days, but still a teaching. Most Mormons I’ve talked to say they don’t have a problem with the idea of it, just it’s not officially taught.Their posts show that they aren’t “knowledgeable” in terms of knowing LDS doctrines, but they are “knowledgeable” in appearing so. To each their own.
One could find lds.org and read the Gospel Principles manual (available online) by linking from the link to “manuals”.
It’s still a belief in multiple gods, and a belief that humans will ultimately become equal to God by becoming gods themselves.As far as Heavenly Father having a Father, then if so that relationship was prior to this universe being organized (a term used in some science is “multiverses” describing more than one universe in existence), and this universe is the only universe we need concern ourselves about, and worshiping Him and His Only Begotten Son, of whom the Holy Ghost bears witness, is the true worship to which humankind would do well to devote themselves.
Catholicism seems to have been unable to break away from allowing that those Jews who rejected Jesus did so because they believed in “One God” (not in the same way as Catholics) and those Jews did not believe that Jesus could possibly be Him, nor of course that He was the Great I Am, the God of Israel, nor that He was the one and only Savior, nor that He is the very Christ, the Anointed One prophesied by Isaiah.
I didn’t follow that.So the path for the disbelief in a true Only Begotten Son was pointed out, direction-wise, by the Jews who were rejecting Him in His very presence.
Freddo,I didn’t see any mistakes in what they posted. Well, I think God having sex with Mary has been officially disavowed these days, but still a teaching. Most Mormons I’ve talked to say they don’t have a problem with the idea of it, just it’s not officially taught.
Jesus taught very plainly a belief in more than one God, and was killed for that by being horribly crucified.It’s still a belief in multiple gods, and a belief that humans will ultimately become equal to God by becoming gods themselves.
That’s fine. Some will, some won’t.I didn’t follow that.