Is Pope Francis going to change the Our Father?

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I have read about this happening from several news outlets for some time, but I do not know if it’s true.
 
No. Robert if you compare Mt 6: 6-10 in the KJV, Douay Rheims, and the NAB you will find slightly different wording. The KJV and the DR are almost identical, except that the phrase “give us our daily bread” in the DR is give us this day our supersubstantial bread." I think what the Pope might be doing is playing with a word or two to attempt a more universally understandable meaning. I don’t think Francis is arrogant or egotistical enough to decide that Jesus didn’t have it right and Francis knows better.
 
The French episopal conference changed the translation of the Lord’s Prayer .

It now reads “ne nous laisse pas entrer en tentation,” meaning, “do not let us fall into temptation,” versus the former “ne nous soumets pas à la tentation,” meaning “lead us not into temptation.”
 
I’ve my own customized ver of Our Father.
Hasn’t Satan managed to get dropped from prayer ?
“deliver us from the evil one” or “from evil” ?
 
When the Metropolia of Pittsburgh (the church formerly known as “Ruthenian”) revised the Divine Liturgy a few years ago, they actually noted that “deliver us from the evil one” would be more accurate than “deliver us from evil.” They declined to make the minor change over unity, as the form of the Lord’s Prayer in English has been in common and united various christians for 500 years.

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I recall threads about this months ago. He is not changing it. There might be modifications to translation but the prayer is not changing
 
Everyday I hear a new theory or rumor about Pope Francis changing or adding some crazy thing about the faith. Poor Holy Father.
 
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I have read about this happening from several news outlets for some time, but I do not know if it’s true.
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A few years ago the Nicene Creed was also changed to be more true to the Latin. Also the Holy Father is right about refining the translation of the Our Father in some languageS. For example, in English it states “Lead us not into temptation” ; whereas in Spanish the better translation states “Let us not fall into temptation”” which is a more accurate translation.
 
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The Pope does NOT have the power to “change” the Our Father…

By that I mean he has no authority to change the original Greek in the Scriptures.

However, he DOES possess the authority to change the way the OF is translated - even in the Latin Typical texts of the Liturgy, and by extension in all translations of those Latin texts.

So he COULD lawfully change the OF to read “let us not enter into temptation” instead of “lead us not into temptation” in the Churches translations of the original Greek.

Now, I would be upset if he did this as it would do violence to 1500+ years of tradition in Latin, and 500+ years in English.

But, all Catholics would have to accept the change.

We could be unhappy about it, we could advocate the Holy Father change it back to the traditional wording, and we could continue using the traditional wording in our private devotions.

But we could NOT refuse to use the new translation Liturgically or deny the orthodoxy of such a translation change - those would be acts of disobedience to the Supreme Pontiff which could lead to schism.
 
Wait, wait, wait. God doesn’t lead us into temptation. Although, Job was prime example of being tested. Still and although I love the prayer, I just now had that thought come to mind. When it was written, was Job considered? Are we being tested by God? I hope I’m not starting another thread topic. If I am, forgive me.
 
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My experience is that 98% of what the major news outlets say about anything Catholic is totally wrong, and most of the rest is distorted.
 
Yeah, I don’t think that the prayer that was taught to the disciples by Our Lord himself is flawed.
 
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I personally do not see any difference between God leading us into temptation and God allowing Satan to lead us into temptation without intervening. Please let me know the exact difference if you disagree.
 
As far as I can tell, the version of the “Our Father” used by American Catholics originates from the English Book of Common Prayer rather than any particular Bible version.
 
I cannot tell if you are being facetious, or not.
If not, good luck with that!
 
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