Is Purgatory Real

[mercygate]

Exactly. Purgatory is the final step of our sanctification. Jesus’ death on the cross was objectively sufficient to wipe away all sin in other words in others words it accomplished its objective, however, subjectively it did not, for everyone still sins or retains unrepentant sin up to the moment of death, therefore a final step of ones sanctification is needed. Protestants have a difficult time with Col 1:24 because Paul says that something is “lacking in Christs sacrifice” and that he (Paul) is “filling up which is lacking”

Paul here is speaking of the subjective sense of Christ’s sacrifice on the cross because if anyone knows that Christ’s sacrifice is objectively sufficien, it is Paul. He also knows that subjectively
how we apply Christ’s sacrifice to permeate our will and sanctify us is up to us, that’s why Paul can say he “fills up what is lacking” [in Christ’s sacrifice] for the church and the more you are being filled, the more holiness you will contain and the more sanctified you will be, and if you aren’t completely sanctified at your death, then you will need to be purged from that unrepentant sin.

Yep.

“Filling up what is lacking.” One of the ECFs said that what is lacking is that Christ has not yet suffered in you. As the Body of Christ, we must all live His life.

Whew!

 

[Sir_Knight]

Let’s not forget Heb 10:26-27 … For if we sin deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful prospect of judgment, and a fury of fire which will consume the adversaries.

 

[Bishopite]

“Filling up what is lacking.” One of the ECFs said that what is lacking is that Christ has not yet suffered in you. As the Body of Christ, we must all live His life.

Whew!

This is so true. Suffering with Christ as difficult as it is for us, is something we must take seriously. But the good news is that if we suffer for Jesus we will reign with Him.
2 Tim 2:12
“If we suffer, we shall also reign with him…”

 

[mom4truth]

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[Stillkickin]

From the CCC *AND *Scripture

1030
All who die in God’s grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven.
1031
The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned.The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire:
As for certain lesser faults, we must believe that, before the Final Judgment, there is a purifying fire. He who is truth says that whoever utters blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be pardoned neither in this age nor in the age to come. From this sentence we understand that certain offenses can be forgiven in this age, but certain others in the age to come.
1032
This teaching is also based on the practice of prayer for the dead, already mentioned in Sacred Scripture: “Therefore [Judas Maccabeus] made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin.” From the beginning the Church has honored the memory of the dead and offered prayers in suffrage for them, above all the Eucharistic sacrifice, so that, thus purified, they may attain the beatific vision of God. The Church also commends almsgiving, indulgences, and works of penance undertaken on behalf of the dead:
Let us help and commemorate them. If Job’s sons were purified by their father’s sacrifice, why would we doubt that our offerings for the dead bring them some consolation? Let us not hesitate to help those who have died and to offer our prayers for them.

Matt. 5:26,18:34; Luke 12:58-59 – Jesus teaches us, “Come to terms with your opponent or you will be handed over to the judge and thrown into prison. You will not get out until you have paid the last penny.”

Matt. 12:32 – Jesus says, “And anyone who says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but no one who speaks against the Holy Spirit will be forgiven either in this world or in the next.”

1 Cor. 15:29-30 - Paul mentions people being baptized on behalf of the dead, in the context of atoning for their sins (people are baptized on the dead’s behalf so the dead can be raised). These people cannot be in heaven because they are still with sin, but they also cannot be in hell because their sins can no longer be atoned for.

2 Tim. 1:16-18 - Onesiphorus is dead but Paul asks for mercy on him “on that day.” Paul’s use of “that day” there is no need for mercy in heaven, and there is no mercy given in hell. Where is Onesiphorus? He is in purgatory

Heb. 12:23 - the spirits of just men who died in godliness are “made” perfect

1 Peter 3:19; 4:6 - Jesus preached to the spirits in the “prison.” These are the righteous souls being purified

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