Is removing The Book of Mormon from a hotel room theft?

[muledog]

qmvsimp:

I don’t think that applies to the Book of Mormon. The Mormon Church gives free Books of Mormon to whomever asks for one. Check the book out and see who published it. I think you’ll see that they’re all published by the Mormon Church.

In fact, it might be against Mormon rules to sell one.

Even if the Book of Mormon didn’t cost the hotel, it wouild still be considered “theft” to take it. Just like the Gideon Bibles that are left in hotels. They are there for the people who are staying in that room at that hotel to read. If someone takes it from the room, chances are the next residents won’t have one to read (at least until the hotel can erplace it).

In Manibus Dei,

• MIke M.

 

[qmvsimp]

muledog:

Even if the Book of Mormon didn’t cost the hotel, it wouild still be considered “theft” to take it. Just like the Gideon Bibles that are left in hotels. They are there for the people who are staying in that room at that hotel to read. If someone takes it from the room, chances are the next residents won’t have one to read (at least until the hotel can erplace it).

In Manibus Dei,

• MIke M.

The Mormon Church puts them there so people will take them. Note the earlier thread where the maids had extra books on their cleaning cart. They’re there for the taking and replacing, with compliments from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. (A heretical organization).

 

[Friar_David_O.Carm]

qmvsimp:

The Mormon Church puts them there so people will take them. Note the earlier thread where the maids had extra books on their cleaning cart. They’re there for the taking and replacing, with compliments from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. (A heretical organization).

I do not think you can call the LDS a heretical organization as they are not even Christian.

 

[surfinpure]

muledog:

Even if the Book of Mormon didn’t cost the hotel, it wouild still be considered “theft” to take it. Just like the Gideon Bibles that are left in hotels. They are there for the people who are staying in that room at that hotel to read.

As I posted earlier, we don’t know how the Gideons feel about the hotel’s attitude toward their Bibles. It may just be that the hotel doesn’t want to have to go to the trouble of replacing something that the Gideons meant to be taken in the first place. I wouldn’t be so quick to assume based solely upon what a hotel manager says. I’d ask the Gideons. I already know the Mormons want their material to be kept.

 

[qmvsimp]

ByzCath:

I do not think you can call the LDS a heretical organization as they are not even Christian.

Does someone have to be a Christian in order to be a heretic? Or do they merely have to claim to be?

I thought the latter.

 

[surfinpure]

qmvsimp:

Does someone have to be a Christian in order to be a heretic? Or do they merely have to claim to be?

I thought the latter.

[Start of thread tangent]

Heresy is “the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same.” (CCC 2089) So they are heretics IF they have been validly baptized (in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit). I don’t know how Mormons baptize, so I’m not sure, but I seem to recall that they deny the Trinity.

[End of thread tangent]

 

[Friar_David_O.Carm]

[Start of thread tangent]

Heresy is “the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same.” (CCC 2089) So they are heretics IF they have been validly baptized (in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit). I don’t know how Mormons baptize, so I’m not sure, but I seem to recall that they deny the Trinity.

[End of thread tangent]

Mormon baptism is not valid.

Someone who is not a Catholic can not truly be called a Heretic becuase they may not have the same understanding of the truth as a Catholic does.

They do more than just deny the Trinity but that is for another thread.

 

[cleopa]

Kay Walker:

Over Memorial Day weekend, my husband and I visited beautiful Moab, Utah. I was severely tempted to remove The Book of Mormon that was in the hotel room, but thought that this may be stealing and so I left it (but not without a small act of vandalism – I wrote on one of the front pages, where it reads “Another testament of Jesus Christ…” "What?? Didn’t he get it right the first time?!?

I had also noticed that the housekeeping carts each had a supply of the book – ready to replace any that go missing from the rooms, so removing the book would not have kept one out of the hands of the next traveler – potentially a poorly catechized or wavering Catholic.

I’ve considered that someone taking the book with them who is sincerely interested in the Mormonism would not be stealing since the purpose of the book being in the room is probably 1) to comfort the traveling Mormon, and 2) to evangelize (same dual purpose as the Bibles placed in the rooms by the Gideons, I think). Anyway, to remove the book only to throw it away seemed questionable to me – possibly theft. The good intent of keeping it out of the hands of the next unsuspecting Catholic or christian traveler would not necessarily justify the bad means (i.e. theft). Thoughts?

As a former member of the LDS Church, I can assure you that nobody would mind if you took the Book of Mormon with a sincere heart. The fact that you thought about taking it in order to throw it away says a lot about your character.

The fact that you went so far as to vandalize it reveals even more.

It’s funny…when I am at Church, or around fellow Catholics in real life, they are nice people. Whenever I visit these forums, it’s full of Pharisees and degenerates like you. Makes me wonder…