Is Satan Evil to the core?

[Usagi]

Can you comment on this quote please?
To quote Greek philosopher Epicurus [341–270 B.C.]: Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

That is of course the infamous “Problem of Evil.” Theists are well aware of it and have proposed various possible resolutions. I’m afraid I don’t have time to go into a discussion now, but I will try to return to this thread tomorrow.

Usagi

 

[Dorothy]

Can you comment on this quote please?
To quote Greek philosopher Epicurus [341–270 B.C.]: Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

Can God make a mountain He cannot lift?

The mountain is pride, and He lifted it on the cross.

 

[mikekle]

I started a freewill thread. If Satan used his freewill, will we have freewill to sin after death?

Interesting, I had never thought of it like that…but that is true.

I think its odd Satan was able to convince sooo many of the angels to follow him. Angels do not need faith, for they already KNOW, saying that, it is even more amazing 1/3 of the angels chose to follow Satan instead…what were they thinking?

It is also said angels are much more intelligent than humans, so should the fact that 1/3 of them chose to follow Satan tell us something?

 

[Blue_Horizon]

Is Satan evil to the core? Or is there an ounce of good?

I once heard that everyone and everything to the core is good (by a teacher at my HS) because God created everything, even Satan.

And did God create Satan? Because he also said that, but it doesn’t make sense that something that is all good could create something all evil

Thanks,

Lennon

If he was evil to the core (I presume you mean both substantial and moral evil) he wouldn’t exist. Evil, therefore, is by definition imperfection or disorder of what should be.

 

[PendingTheist]

If he was evil to the core (I presume you mean both substantial and moral evil) he wouldn’t exist. Evil, therefore, is by definition imperfection or disorder of what should be.

Are you saying God created imperfection? As according to Isaiah 45:7 God created evil. “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.” Also, Proverbs 16:4 “The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil”.

 

[Blue_Horizon]

Are you saying God created imperfection? As according to Isaiah 45:7 God created evil. “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.” Also, Proverbs 16:4 “The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil”.

I am simply suggesting
(a) you consider what category of evil you are referring to (natural or moral)
(b) consider whether evil is best defined as a privation (ie a lack in a perfection that something is meant to have).

How that evil got there is a completely different question from this thread topic and I don’t really see how my view implies God created evil .

If you really believe that Isaiah is talking about the same evil that this thread is speaking of then I think you have bigger difficulties than my equating evil with privation .