Is saving an Image file to your computer stealing?

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Copyright is a sticky issue. The laws are different from country to country, too, which adds to the confusion. I certainly wouldn’t claim to be an expert.

If you want to download art, take some time to look into the copyright stuff. Click on the pictures on Wikipedia and look at the permissions to start to familiarize yourself with the lingo.

I used to be oblivious to that and would download pictures from Google Image searches. Now I’m much more careful. Wikimedia Commons has loads of pictures, most of which are either Public Domain or have the Creative Commons Share Alike license (be careful what you search for, though, as not all their pictures are G-rated!).

It’s not all cut-and-dry either. What about jpg photos that are photos of a 2-D work of art that has long since passed into the public domain? Some people think that the photo can be copyrighted as a new work, while others think that a photo of a painting that is public domain is automatically in the public domain. (Statues are a different story, though, because photos of different angles make a difference as to how one perceives the work.)

For example, look at The Creation of Adam on Wikimedia Commons. This, of course, is the famous painting by Michelangelo on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. Here’s what it says under the permissions:

This is a faithful photographic reproduction of an original two-dimensional work of art. The work of art itself is in the public domain for the following reason:

This image (or other media file) is in the public domain because its copyright has expired.

This applies to the United States, Australia, the European Union and those countries with a copyright term of life of the author plus 70 years.

Note that a few countries have copyright terms longer than 70 years: Mexico has 100 years, Colombia has 80 years, and Guatemala and Samoa have 75 years. This image may not be in the public domain in these countries, which moreover do not implement the rule of the shorter term. Côte d’Ivoire has a general copyright term of 99 years and Honduras has 75 years, but they do implement the rule of the shorter term.

The official position taken by the Wikimedia Foundation is that “faithful reproductions of two-dimensional public domain works of art are public domain, and that claims to the contrary represent an assault on the very concept of a public domain”. For details, see Commons:When to use the PD-Art tag.

This photographic reproduction is therefore also considered to be in the public domain.

Please be aware that depending on local laws, re-use of this content may be prohibited or restricted in your jurisdiction. See Commons:Reuse of PD-Art photographs.​

If you go to the links, you get even more background info to confuse you. 🙂

And, speaking of confusion, just look on Wikimedia Commons for the mosaic in the apse of the Basillica of Saint Clement. This is listed under the Creative Commons license, not as Public Domain. :confused:

I believe 1ke is right that you don’t need to be making money to violate copyright law. I think that there is a tendency to fall to the extremes on copyright issues. Some people ignore it completely and think that if they can do it, it must be okay. Others go the opposite route and start to think that anything they do online violates copyright law. We need to be careful, but we don’t need to be paralyzed either. There is plenty of stuff out there we can use, provided we go about it the right way.

Of course, I’m primarily interested in Catholic art, so I google stuff like “free Catholic clip art” and I have found several good sites with images that are all free to use, too. 🙂
 
If it is a legal issue then perhaps a good summary to look at would be wikipedia:

Wikipedia on Copyright Infringement.

There are many questions, such as permission, implied permission, orphaned works, fair dealings, etc.

“Fair dealing uses are research and study; review and critique; parody and satire; news reportage and the giving of professional advice.” (Wikipedia)

Now, I just cut-and-pasted the above sentence from the Wikipedia article. It is fair use for the purposes of research/study, as we are currently researching what constitutes a copyright infringement or violation.

Now, it is technically (legally) illegal to save any computer file from a website to your computer. However, some website imply permission by saying “click to download” or similar messages about open source, or free for non-commercial use.

Copyright is a tricky business, as there is international copyright law, and copyright laws vary from country to country. Let me make it clear that just because you are not selling it or have financial gain does not make it okay (despite what some people might try to tell you).

Anyway, to answer your original question:

Is saving an Image file to your computer stealing?

It MIGHT be, depending on the circumstances. There are permissions to do so under “fair dealings” such as: research and study; review and critique; parody and satire; news reportage and the giving of professional advice (such as legal advice). If your dealings do not fall under one of those categories, and you have not sought permission from the identified copyright owner, then it is stealing.

Other exceptions include: Public domain works (copyright expired or public permission given) and; Orphaned works (copyright owner cannot be found)
 
I’m still confused though. I don’t live in America, so I don’t apply to US rules.

Can we save images from the internet on our phones/iPods/computers etc?

can I use an image that I saved from online? Can I use this as a poster? Or to make a collage etc with it?

Can I used an image I saved online on an online account? Eg. As a profile picture, a background, header etc?

Can I use an image saved online as a background on a device I have?
Can I screenshot things, and use the images? Or screenshot info online so I can read it after? (eg screenshot bible verse tweets on my iPod)
I have a divine mercy app. The app has images of the divine mercy. I screenshoted the images and I use them as backgrounds. I screenshot them because im not sure theres an option to save them on the app/s. This okay? What about printing/photocopying religious pictures and using them? Obviously not selling them?

Can I go on a “free to download images” website? With “royalty free” images and use those online etc?

What if someone takes a picture of me? Am I allowed to use that?

What about tumblr images? Like those ones with quotes? Are they allowed?

God Bless
 
I’m still confused though. I don’t live in America, so I don’t apply to US rules.

Can we save images from the internet on our phones/iPods/computers etc?

can I use an image that I saved from online? Can I use this as a poster? Or to make a collage etc with it?

Can I used an image I saved online on an online account? Eg. As a profile picture, a background, header etc?

Can I use an image saved online as a background on a device I have?
Can I screenshot things, and use the images? Or screenshot info online so I can read it after? (eg screenshot bible verse tweets on my iPod)
I have a divine mercy app. The app has images of the divine mercy. I screenshoted the images and I use them as backgrounds. I screenshot them because im not sure theres an option to save them on the app/s. This okay? What about printing/photocopying religious pictures and using them? Obviously not selling them?

Can I go on a “free to download images” website? With “royalty free” images and use those online etc?

What if someone takes a picture of me? Am I allowed to use that?

What about tumblr images? Like those ones with quotes? Are they allowed?

God Bless
The rule is, if it’s not yours, then it’s not yours to do things with, unless the owner has made it clear that you have permission to do so.

So, clip-art and royalty free art is free to use under whatever agreement appears on the web site.

It’s also very inexpensive to join an image club and buy images, which you can then use for whatever you want, including posters, birthday cards, etc.
 
I hope its not!!! 😃

Artists can protect their files, even if they are online though. If you go to some art webpages, or photographers pages and try to “right-click” it…it will say its protected, and you can’t copy it.

So, effectively, anyone who posts an image online is giving it away for free in my opinion. They might as well be putting it out on the curb for someone to take! 🙂
Sorry, but that is bull. So if you pass by someone’s house and their kid left his bike out near the curb, you’d just take it? According to your statement, it’s fair game.

Even if the original owner did want to get rid of the item, there are differences. You can take the item and, if you no longer want it, you are free to sell it to someone else. If a photographer put his work on the Web and you try to sell it, you are going to get visited by a lawyer.
 
Ok I’ve been hearing a lot lately on what can break this and of course you Shouldn’t Steal material Goods, indeed. Also you can’t “Steal time” from an employer, but recently I’ve heard a lot about the way you can break it with Free Downloads of music. It’s only justifiable if the Artist says it’s free. But we know that pretty much all music is free on the web by some means. I heard on EWTN radio that it’s ok to listen to this free music on the web AS you would on a Radio. You just can’t download… but you can listen all you want… ok so here’s my main question. What about Art??? Art is everywhere! And people Copy & Paste and Save GIFs JPEGs and all kinds of things for free. Some of these images are made by Artists like me or are copyrighted material like let’s say video game characters. I****s saving an Image file to your computer stealing?
Here’s a radical idea: Ask the photographer.
 
I have an image of the Divine Mercy on my wall (printed on paper), next to the 3 o’clock prayer.

What about that?
 
Oh dear. Can’t I even download pictures just to look at, and not use them for anything?

This whole copyright question lately is really starting to annoy me. I don’t understand how downloading a picture- a picture that is supposed to be accessed for free, mind you- takes anything away from anyone. 😦

EDIT: Of course, many pictures on the internet use Creative Commons now, or else the creators are more than willing to let anybody use their work without profiting from it. A look at an FAQ page is often all you need to see that you’re in the clear. 🤷
 
Oh dear. Can’t I even download pictures just to look at, and not use them for anything?

This whole copyright question lately is really starting to annoy me. I don’t understand how downloading a picture- a picture that is supposed to be accessed for free, mind you- takes anything away from anyone. 😦

EDIT: Of course, many pictures on the internet use Creative Commons now, or else the creators are more than willing to let anybody use their work without profiting from it. A look at an FAQ page is often all you need to see that you’re in the clear. 🤷
With the explosion of the digital world in the last 20 years, it seems to me like where in the midst of a very confusing time with regards to copyright. I think that in another decade or two, things will be more clearly defined.

Back in grade school, we would sometimes have projects where we had to cut out pictures from magazines and newspapers to make collages. no one batted an eye. But if you do the digital equivalent, it’s stealing. 🤷

I mean, I understand the difference. The magazines and newspapers were all paid for by someone. And part of that money likely went to pay for the photographs and drawings contained thereine. With the internet, you have one copy of the magazine that a billion kids can all cut the same image from.

But I can also see how it’s hard to adjust. For people who grew up doing stuff like that, pulling images from online can feel like just a more high tech version of those grade school art projects. They don’t necessarily stop to consider the difference.

(Also, just to say it, this thread is a few years old.)
 
I’m still confused though. I don’t live in America, so I don’t apply to US rules.

Can we save images from the internet on our phones/iPods/computers etc?

can I use an image that I saved from online? Can I use this as a poster? Or to make a collage etc with it?

Can I used an image I saved online on an online account? Eg. As a profile picture, a background, header etc?

Can I use an image saved online as a background on a device I have?
Can I screenshot things, and use the images? Or screenshot info online so I can read it after? (eg screenshot bible verse tweets on my iPod)
I have a divine mercy app. The app has images of the divine mercy. I screenshoted the images and I use them as backgrounds. I screenshot them because im not sure theres an option to save them on the app/s. This okay? What about printing/photocopying religious pictures and using them? Obviously not selling them?

Can I go on a “free to download images” website? With “royalty free” images and use those online etc?

What if someone takes a picture of me? Am I allowed to use that?

What about tumblr images? Like those ones with quotes? Are they allowed?

God Bless
Can someone give definite answers on each of these?
 
Can someone give definite answers on each of these?
If you want to use an image, contact the owner of the image, and ask permission. Most of the time, permission will be given.

I don’t understand what’s so complicated about that.
 
If you want to use an image, contact the owner of the image, and ask permission. Most of the time, permission will be given.

I don’t understand what’s so complicated about that.
A lot of times, contacting the owner is no longer possible. 🤷
 
A lot of times, contacting the owner is no longer possible. 🤷
Try right-clicking the image to find its original server, and then contact the server administrator to get in touch with the image’s owner.

You can also do a search on the image name to find the first instance of when it was posted, find out who posted it, and get in touch with that person, who is most likely the owner of the image.
 
Try right-clicking the image to find its original server, and then contact the server administrator to get in touch with the image’s owner.

You can also do a search on the image name to find the first instance of when it was posted, find out who posted it, and get in touch with that person, who is most likely the owner of the image.
I don’t think it always works like that- there are lots of inactive deviant art accounts that won’t lead you to anybody, for instance. And that’s a LOT of trouble to go to for each individual picture. Easier to just go for ones that say “free to take” or “post anywhere, just link back”. 🤷

(I can’t right-click, either… I only have an iPad. :o)
 
I don’t think it always works like that- there are lots of inactive deviant art accounts that won’t lead you to anybody, for instance. And that’s a LOT of trouble to go to for each individual picture. Easier to just go for ones that say “free to take” or “post anywhere, just link back”. 🤷

(I can’t right-click, either… I only have an iPad. :o)
If you are using that many images in one project, maybe you need to open an account with ShutterStock, or something like that - or take an art class and learn to make your own images.
 
Can someone give definite answers on each of these?
I can’t answer all of those, but I don’t think it would be wrong to take a screenshot of a tweet, especially if it’s a Bible verse, which the tweeter (or whatever) does not have ownership of.

But if you’re really worried, just write the tweet down on paper. A tweet’s like… what? 140 characters?

Also I don’t think the Divine Mercy is protected by copyright. There are a couple of renditions of it.
 
If you are using that many images in one project, maybe you need to open an account with ShutterStock, or something like that - or take an art class and learn to make your own images.
I don’t do projects with them. I just like to look at pictures. :o
 
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