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MainBrain
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If a person decides to smoke a little marijuana later in life, is that necessarily a sin?
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Fiasco
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Surely that’d be violating the Fifth Commandment?
And the first part of your screen name might have to be changed to “Maimed”.
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i do occasionally smoke grass, but it’s actually the lawnmower that does the smoking. i just push it.
And the first part of your screen name might have to be changed to “Maimed”.
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i do occasionally smoke grass, but it’s actually the lawnmower that does the smoking. i just push it.
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MainBrain
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The Fifth Commandment?Surely that’d be violating the Fifth Commandment?
And the first part of your screen name might have to be changed to “Maimed”.
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i do occasionally smoke grass, but it’s actually the lawnmower that does the smoking. i just push it.
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ShrodingersCat
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You will get the full range of opinions on here.
In my opinion, a lot hinges on whether it’s legally sourced. Funding drug gangs isn’t good. So if it’s legal in your location and you smoke it, that is different from buying it off some sketchy dude on a street corner.
Also getting stoned = getting drunk in terms of sinfulness (i.e. it is potentially grave).
I’m not sure that the church’s stance is clear. The catechism sort of treats alcohol and tobacco differently to other drugs, but there is no logical reason I can see for weed being treated separately, other than the fact that alcohol and tobacco are typically legal and weed typically is not.
Of course I could be wrong, but I feel like one could technically not abuse tobacco and alcohol but still end up worse off than a casual marijuana smoker.
That is just IMO though; go with what the Church says and ask a priest for further insight.
***2290 The virtue of temperance disposes us to avoid every kind of excess: the abuse of food, alcohol, tobacco, or medicine. Those incur grave guilt who, by drunkenness or a love of speed, endanger their own and others’ safety on the road, at sea, or in the air.
2291 The use of drugs inflicts very grave damage on human health and life. Their use, except on strictly therapeutic grounds, is a grave offense. Clandestine production of and trafficking in drugs are scandalous practices. They constitute direct co-operation in evil, since they encourage people to practices gravely contrary to the moral law.***
In my opinion, a lot hinges on whether it’s legally sourced. Funding drug gangs isn’t good. So if it’s legal in your location and you smoke it, that is different from buying it off some sketchy dude on a street corner.
Also getting stoned = getting drunk in terms of sinfulness (i.e. it is potentially grave).
I’m not sure that the church’s stance is clear. The catechism sort of treats alcohol and tobacco differently to other drugs, but there is no logical reason I can see for weed being treated separately, other than the fact that alcohol and tobacco are typically legal and weed typically is not.
Of course I could be wrong, but I feel like one could technically not abuse tobacco and alcohol but still end up worse off than a casual marijuana smoker.
That is just IMO though; go with what the Church says and ask a priest for further insight.
***2290 The virtue of temperance disposes us to avoid every kind of excess: the abuse of food, alcohol, tobacco, or medicine. Those incur grave guilt who, by drunkenness or a love of speed, endanger their own and others’ safety on the road, at sea, or in the air.
2291 The use of drugs inflicts very grave damage on human health and life. Their use, except on strictly therapeutic grounds, is a grave offense. Clandestine production of and trafficking in drugs are scandalous practices. They constitute direct co-operation in evil, since they encourage people to practices gravely contrary to the moral law.***
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Robert_Sock
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If you’re using it for medical purposes, and it’s legal for medical purposes where you live, I do not think it would be a sin. However, I strongly advise you to stay away from it, even if it’s legal where you live! I believe I was seriously lied to when I was told by an MD that it could help my anxiety and depression. In reality, there is no good scientific proof for these claims, and I eventually experienced severe panic attacks and Alzheimer’s-like symptoms! When I quit pot, these side-effects disappeared completely. Again, these serious side-effects did not occur immediately but did show up with continuous usage. Even with short-term usage, a cognitive decline is most obvious.
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Fiasco
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You probably realise by now that “Thou shalt not kill.” covers damaging your own health.The Fifth Commandment?
By the way, from my first post, “i just push it.” means pushing the mower…not pushing weed.
Anti-depressants sometimes cause me to go into a high.
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friardchips
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It is a sin.Surely that’d be violating the Fifth Commandment?
And the first part of your screen name might have to be changed to “Maimed”.
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i do occasionally smoke grass, but it’s actually the lawnmower that does the smoking. i just push it.
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TK421
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Recreational marijuana is a sin and likely a grave sin. It can lead to eternal damnation.
Whether they are young or old isn’t relevant to the act, except those of more advanced years are - generally - less clouded and less ignorant and so all the more culpable for their actions.
If you are curious on behalf of someone, I would as a Catholic charitably discourage this person from partaking.
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Tarpeian_Rock
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Do you feel the same way about cigarettes? And if not, why not? Eternal damnation - really?
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abinjoy
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I believe recreational use of alcohol is also a sin?
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twf
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To be fair, all medicinal drugs can have terrible side effects…different people react differently.
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twf
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How do you figure that? The guests at the Wedding at Cana all required wine for medicinal purposes? That’s quite the stretch.
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pianistclare
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The bottom line is, there are no shortcuts with dealing with one’s problems. Drugs, alcohol, yoga, all kinds of “tricks” don’t work.
One has to DO THE WORK, and that involves *change. *
Bandaids don’t advertise themselves as “cure”.
One has to DO THE WORK, and that involves *change. *
Bandaids don’t advertise themselves as “cure”.
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Crusaderbear
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That last statement can be used against you…how many ounces you pushing?Surely that’d be violating the Fifth Commandment?
And the first part of your screen name might have to be changed to “Maimed”.
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i do occasionally smoke grass, but it’s actually the lawnmower that does the smoking. i just push it.
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SyroMalankara
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Not necessarily, could be, or not.
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boldlygo
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A glass of wine or a beer with dinner? Get serious!!
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Robert_Sock
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But to truly be fair and honest, what would cause an MD to recommend pot for anxiety and depression, without revealing its potential dangers and without it having FDA approval or any scientific evidence that it’s effective for such mental disorders? Yes, drugs are often prescribed for medical purposes other than that for which it was approved, but such a decision should be based on published, trustworthy, research. I understand that pot can be beneficial to increase appetite and decrease nausea, but in such cases, it should be of pharmaceutical quality, as is the case for Marinol.
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boomerang
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Smoking weed is a sin if it is: 1. Illegal to do so. 2. Does harm to your body or to others.
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twf
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I wouldn’t even consider your example “recreational”. A glass of wine or pint of beer with dinner is the norm in many traditionally Catholic cultures. Recreational drinking would, if I were to define the term, be more along the lines of, say, going down to the neighbourhood pub with some friends and having a few drinks. That also isn’t sinful in and of itself.
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SyroMalankara
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It’s the same “constraints” as the anti-marijuana crowd always places on pot. For example, nothing wrong with alcohol in the USA, why - because it’s legal? Well, alcohol is banned in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iran, etc… are Christians (and whoever else) “sinning” because it’s illegal? Nope.
Does alcohol alter the body in some way - definitely, any pre-med student can confirm this.
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