Is smoking Marijuana sinful?

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Wow. So if I buy weed legally,** I will not be tempted, at all,** when the local dope dealer offers me some pills that he says are “a lot better than marijuana”? No logic there.

God bless,
Ed
It wouldn’t. And somehow I doubt you’re being serious with that question, because something tells me you would never be tempted to buy pills that are “a lot better than marijuana”. Unless you assume that everyone else isn’t as intelligent as you are in that respect?

By the way, what makes you think the local dope dealer doesn’t pose the same question already, but with alcohol?
 
Wow. So if I buy weed legally, I will not be tempted, at all, when the local dope dealer offers me some pills that he says are “a lot better than marijuana”? No logic there.

God bless,
Ed
Weed as a gateway drug argument? You know that alcohol and tobacco are also in that category.
But sure- marijuana smokers are more likely to move onto a higher drugs. I don’t smoke or drink, so it would be strange for me to say “Hmmm… this heroin stuff seems interesting” because why would I find ‘harder stuff’ appealing when I’ve shown no interest in ‘softer stuff’? That’s not to say marijuana ‘causes’ or ‘leads to’ trying harder drugs.
 
It wouldn’t. And somehow I doubt you’re being serious with that question, because something tells me you would never be tempted to buy pills that are “a lot better than marijuana”. Unless you assume that everyone else isn’t as intelligent as you are in that respect?

By the way, what makes you think the local dope dealer doesn’t pose the same question already, but with alcohol?
A friend of mine used to go to Raves. I asked him what they were like. He responded that the suburban kids would come in and start asking around for pills. Not marijuana. And there were usually dealers there that would supply them.

God bless,
Ed
 
And if it were legal and therefore not tied to organized crime?
There is no guarantee that “legal” would not tie it to organized crime.

Want to go the “home grown” route?

Fifth Commandment still holds.

Want the Fifth Commandment tossed?

God bless and help you on your journey.
 
I think organized crime would be among the first to open legal marijuana outlets.

God bless,
Ed
 
Indeed. Manufacturing, distribution and “enforcers” already in place.

No doubt Satan is on the side cheering “We are Legion. Give the people what they want! Give them freedom!”
 
Wow. So if I buy weed legally, I will not be tempted, at all, when the local dope dealer offers me some pills that he says are “a lot better than marijuana”? No logic there.

God bless,
Ed
Have you ever had someone offer you crack outside a liquor store, that is “a lot better than alcohol?” Would that crack tempt you?

It is literally the exact same thing.
 
A friend of mine used to go to Raves. I asked him what they were like. He responded that the suburban kids would come in and start asking around for pills. Not marijuana. And there were usually dealers there that would supply them.

God bless,
Ed
That is a different scene. Raves are literally made for E. That is basically the only point of them.
 
There is no guarantee that “legal” would not tie it to organized crime.

Want to go the “home grown” route?

Fifth Commandment still holds.

Want the Fifth Commandment tossed?

God bless and help you on your journey.
Well organized crime did stay in the alcohol business after the alcohol ban was lifted…oh wait, no they didn’t.
 
1st. Have used marijuana. Have been high. Disliked it very, very much.

2nd. There has been research that has shown long term marijuana use damages the heart.

Now, I’m new to all this so I’m not entirely clear… but I do believe it is a sin to damage your body. If you know something harms your health (cigarettes, marijuana, excessive alcohol, mcdonald’s french fries, overeating, undereating, etc) and you ingest (or don’t ingest) said thing despite knowing you are risking bodily harm… then you are committing a sin by not honoring the body God gave you.

That’s just my limited understanding.

But, beyond that, why do you want to get high? What are your motivations for seeking the drug? In your motivation you will discover the true sin in the action… or not? Behind every sin is a disordered motivation. 🤷
 
I think organized crime would be among the first to open legal marijuana outlets.

God bless,
Ed
They could also open a store selling computers. Or a liquor store. Or any business…because each of them would be under the same rules and laws and it would have to be a legitimate business or else the police and government would intervene.
 
1st. Have used marijuana. Have been high. Disliked it very, very much.

2nd. There has been research that has shown long term marijuana use damages the heart.

Now, I’m new to all this so I’m not entirely clear… but I do believe it is a sin to damage your body. If you know something harms your health (cigarettes, marijuana, excessive alcohol, mcdonald’s french fries, overeating, undereating, etc) and you ingest (or don’t ingest) said thing despite knowing you are risking bodily harm… then you are committing a sin by not honoring the body God gave you.

That’s just my limited understanding.

But, beyond that, why do you want to get high? What are your motivations for seeking the drug? In your motivation you will discover the true sin in the action… or not? Behind every sin is a disordered motivation. 🤷
Can you quote the evidence that says marijuana damages the heart? I have never heard that.
 
Can you quote the evidence that says marijuana damages the heart? I have never heard that.
I can’t. I read it in a health magazine in the doctor’s office and didn’t think to write down the issue. I did find this:
nida.nih.gov/researchreports/marijuana/marijuana3.html

And this quote:
Researchers with the National Institute on Drug Abuse say the active chemical in marijuana, THC, causes the body to overproduce a protein called ApoC-111. ApoC-111 is linked to high triglycerides (blood fats) because of problems with the breakdown of blood fats in the body.
The study results are published in the May 13 issue of Molecular Psychiatry.
The researchers note that marijuana’s effects from heavy, long-term use have been linked to neuorological problems such as learning difficulty and strokes.


No mention of heart issues but mention of other possible long-term damage.
 
Well organized crime did stay in the alcohol business after the alcohol ban was lifted…oh wait, no they didn’t.
The “alcohol” business? They didn’t drink in Las Vegas? They moved from one evil to another.
 
I was addicted to marijuana for a years and years. I literally would be high from the time I woke up until the time I went to sleep. I don’t need to read an article about marijuana being addictive. BUT I do have a problem with their list of health consequences of long term marijuana use. It is fitting that they don’t have sources.

Anyway, I tried to post this link earlier in the thread. It is about the apparent link between schizophrenia and marijuana. Basically the main point is that in the last 50 years WAY more people have smoked weed, but the percentage of people with schizophrenia has stayed basically the same.

Also, the links between cancer and marijuana are inconclusive as some studies have found a link and some studies have not.

As for the cognitive and memory impairments…I believe there is a little bit of merit to this, but nothing too extreme. My last semester of college I was smoking for a decent portion of it and I pulled off 3 A+'s and an A. It obviously didn’t effect my school work, but it does effect my memory. Many times I will go upstairs in my house to get something, get distracted by something else, and then come back downstairs without the thing I was trying to get in the first place. It is a shame, but marijuana has shaped the way my life is now and I don’t regret my usage. If I never smoked I would not have the friends I do now and my life would be completely different.

Weed is a drug. It is no more of a drug than alcohol though, and is a lot less socially (and personally for the most part) damaging. Weed can make you lose your job, lose your wife, lose your friends, etc. But so can alcohol. Drinking kills tens of thousands of people a year, weed kills barely any, if any at all. If you can drink a few drinks socially and it not be a sin, then there is no reason why you can’t smoke a bowl with some friends and watch a movie without it being a sin.
 
Of course it makes sense - it’s all about the duty to obey non-sinful directives of God-given authorities like legislatures. St Paul reminds us that we need to obey all lawful authority.
Okay. But what about my example about smoking it in Amsterdam, where it is legal? Since I would be obeying the laws, what other argument do you have for why it is sinful?
 
Yes. It’s unlawful in the USA. That’s only the beginning.

The Catechism explains fully here about following the laws: vatican.va/archive/catechism/p3s1c2a2.htm#I

Then look at the Catechism 2291 here (and in the general area concerning the fifth commandment): vatican.va/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a5.htm

It’s a lot more than a simple proposition of: “Why can’t I if it’s in my own home and not hurting anyone else”. Truthfully, everyone is hurt. If we want “hard evidence” take a look at the drug cartel wars on the Mexico/USA border and it’s not “just marijuana”. People are being tortured and murdered for this “harmless fun”. The pictures are not pretty.

If someone tries to glamorize it, look and show to the “friend” a picture of jumbled exploded, bloody heads on Mexico’s streets laying next to bullet riddled vehicles.

Party’s over.
Okay, but I will pose this question to you. I live in California, and as far as I know, marijuana is illegal to smoke (for non-medical reasons). Soon, however, there is a good chance that it may become legal. So would it be a sin today, and not tomorrow?
 
That is a different scene. Raves are literally made for E. That is basically the only point of them.
First person on this threat to point out the obvious: that raves (a non sequitur) are not exactly known for marijuana. Suburban kids doing ecstasy, which is essentially a “designer drug,” is not the same thing as suburban kids doing doobies. Apples and mangos.

Mindful of the OP and staying on topic: What about the usage of marijuana to treat ailments like glaucoma? Regular prescription drugs, particularly those approved by the FDA for use in the U.S., aren’t much “stronger” than OTC. So, it’s sinful for an elderly Catholic to relieve pain with controlled usage of a substance that some jurisdictions deem lawful? That would be “smoking marijuana,” would it not?
 
Okay, but I will pose this question to you. I live in California, and as far as I know, marijuana is illegal to smoke (for non-medical reasons). Soon, however, there is a good chance that it may become legal. So would it be a sin today, and not tomorrow?
You didn’t read the Catechism sections concerning the Fifth Commandment. It is not just a “legal” issue. The original question is: “Is smoking Marijuana sinful?”
 
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