Is streaming a show not accessible in my continent a sin?

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Here’s the thing: the content creators have already been paid 30 years ago.
Not that it makes much difference but just referring to what you’re saying.
 
To whom would I be setting a bad example to though? I’m not telling anybody about this donation, I can even make it anonymous.
In my view donating to a Catholic orphanage is far better than just watching the stream for free which even that you can debate whether it’s immoral or not, since the producers have already been paid and obviously the corporation doesn’t care of viewers in Europe.
 
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If you didn’t want our opinion but just wanted to do it your way, why start a thread to argue about it?
 
Because I do want your opinion! However if I don’t agree with it I think it’s fair to have a peaceful debate where we can exchange our points of view.
I may be wrong, that’s why I started the thread, but if your only argument is “it infringes the copyright agreement” I’m not going to be very convinced.
 
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watching the stream
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The bad example is given to anyone involved illegally, or others that would do the same, in watching the stream without paying those that created it and hosted it legally.
 
Vico said:
The bad example is given to anyone involved illegally, or others that would do the same, in watching the stream without paying those that created it and hosted it legally .
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Perhaps a technicality, but bypassing region lockouts isn’t illegal, it’s just against Netflix’s terms of service.
 
That’s fair. Didn’t really take that into consideration. You think that getting the VPN is the best option then?
 
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You think that getting the VPN is the best option then?
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Many streaming websites blacklist the IP ranges of VPN services in order to prevent people from evading the content segregation rules. I know Netflix and Amazon do this (though there are holes in their blacklists). I don’t think Funimation does it, but if you plan on going that route, you might want to test it first before you spend half (or all) of your budget on a solution that might not work.
 
Right, thanks for warning me. I’m still undecided though, I don’t plan on doing this anytime soon so I’ve still got a lot of time to think about this.
Personally I still think that giving the money to the Catholic orphanage would be a better way to spend it since they obviously don’t care about their viewers in Europe, the producers have already been paid and ultimately I think it’s a waste of money, it’s like killing a pig to make a 50g steak.
However many people disagree with me so watching it “legally” through a VPN and membership (even though streaming it wouldn’t technically be illegal) is definitely an option to consider, even though I personally dislike it.
I’d like to thank you in particular for being open minded and giving a clear view, thank you very much sir/madam.
 
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Vico:
The bad example is given to anyone involved illegally, or others that would do the same, in watching the stream without paying those that created it and hosted it legally .
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Perhaps a technicality, but bypassing region lockouts isn’t illegal, it’s just against Netflix’s terms of service.
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From Netflix:
Netflix may take action against any use of the Netflix Assets that does not comply with these Terms or written permission from Netflix, infringes any Netflix owned or licensed intellectual property or other right, or violates applicable law.
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Well either way I wouldn’t be using Netflix. If I do decide to use VPN I’ll be sure to read the streaming sites terms and conditions.
 
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Well either way I wouldn’t be using Netflix. If I do decide to use VPN I’ll be sure to read the streaming sites terms and conditions.
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The produces usually own the copyrights and the creators get royalties (a.k.a residuals), for DVD and rebroadcasts.
 
Very true. However the royalties have already been set and the creator has already been paid. The producers have a fixed salary and got paid 30 years ago. It’s not like just because someone buys this membership the people that worked on the show 30 years ago receive a letter with 99 cents.
This is just a counter argument.

The problem for me though isn’t getting the membership. Theoretically I could binge watch the show and just pay 5.99$. The problem for me is that they blocked out a whole continent from watching it and in order to watch it I’d need to buy a VPN and give more money to another rich agency.
I’ve got an idea: I could just support the producers another way. For example I’ve got a game linked to the show, I could just by 2 characters for 12$ which would be the equivalent of 2 months of membership, and just stream the show on a free platform.
How does that sound?

And even after that I’d still donate the 120 euros to that orphanage, because as I’ve said it’s not charity out of guilt, but to associate a good show to a good action and to do a good thing.
I say that sounds pretty good: the company gets their money, I watch the show, the orphanage gets 120 bucks.
 
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Vico said:
Netflix may take action against any use of the Netflix Assets that does not comply with these Terms or written permission from Netflix, infringes any Netflix owned or licensed intellectual property or other right, or violates applicable law.
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That just says “if what you do violates the law we may take action”. Copyright law is a civil matter and international copyright law is even murkier. But a good way to clarify this, even if what the OP did violated copyright law, Netflix isn’t the agrieved party because they don’t own the content just license it.
 
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Vico:
Netflix may take action against any use of the Netflix Assets that does not comply with these Terms or written permission from Netflix, infringes any Netflix owned or licensed intellectual property or other right, or violates applicable law.
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That just says “if what you do violates the law we may take action”. Copyright law is a civil matter and international copyright law is even murkier. But a good way to clarify this, even if what the OP did violated copyright law, Netflix isn’t the agrieved party because they don’t own the content just license it.
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OK. The user is responsible to determine what is illegal before doing it.
 
@Dug I’m seeing plenty of European version [PAL 2] Dragonball Z DVDs available to buy on Amazon. Am I missing something?
 
I completely agree. For the legal aspect, where I live, streaming isn’t illegal, only distributing is (even this is debatable as recently a judge said it isn’t as long as the distributor doesn’t make anything out of it).
Either way I’ll check again.
I was more concerned for the moral aspect, but I think that the solution I came up with covers that too.
 
Can you link them to me? When I searched I only found the one offered my amazon itself.
 
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