Is taking "The pill" for exclusively medical reasons while remaining abstinent sinful

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Some doctors prescribe oral contraceptives to women as treatment for ovarian cysts and endometriosis. Can a Catholic woman take these in good conscience provided she abstains from sex? In other words, is it ok to take the pill for purely theraputic reasons?
 
I know there are other threads on this topic, but yes. It is allowed. It is considered a necessary medication to prevent future, possibly life threatening situations such as cancer.
 
I don’t see any way that taking ‘the pill’ for theraputic reasons, without physical relations could possibly be sinful.
 
One could even continue having physical relations if you are married. The contraception is an unfortunate and unintended side-effect of medical treatment, and therefore does not indicate a lack of openness to life on the part of the married couple.
 
No it is not sinful. So long as abstinence is maintained and is intended to be kept maintained, it is fine.
 
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Ghosty:
One could even continue having physical relations if you are married. The contraception is an unfortunate and unintended side-effect of medical treatment, and therefore does not indicate a lack of openness to life on the part of the married couple.
I would be a little slow to believe this advice. While the law of double effect does apply in some circumstance, it is my understanding that the church teaches that contraception is always a grave sin. I do not see where one is contracepting anything in the case of abstinence, but when on emixes marital relations, then contraception occurs.

Since the science on such issues changes rapidly and since I am not well-versed in this field of expertise, I recommend you contact the National Catholic Biothic Center for answers on specifics. Here is the link.

ncbcenter.org/home.html
 
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pnewton:
I would be a little slow to believe this advice.
I would have to second that.

If there is anyone on the planet who could legitimately use the old ‘medical reasons’, my wife could. But she doesn’t. She and her doctor have found other ways.

She has mentioned her many friends ‘medical reasons’, (they all have one) and to her, they are pretty weak. She says ‘Oh that’s just a Catholic’s way of making it OK.’

I thank God everyday, for bringing her to me, so many years ago.
 
Actually, it is possible that the pill (or something like it) could be used for treatment of a disease provided that disease is not fertility. Now whether that condition or drug exists right now, I don’t know, I’m not a doctor. But it still would be morally permissible to take a drug for a legitimate medical reason even if that drug has a contraceptive side effect. As to whether one would be required to abstain while taking it, that is open for discussion. Fr. Serpa and Michelle Arnold of CA have both written that abstinence would NOT be obligatory.

But to answer your original question, yes, it is okay to take the pill for purely therapeutic reasons and NOT as a contraceptive.
 
Been down this road before.
I respectfully disagree with the apologists on this topic. The evil inherent in contraception (in that it terminates a pregnancy [the Pill does, at any rate]) cannot be extra-mediated by any higher potential good. In other words, to terminate a life so that another might be preserved (strikes me) as intolerable, even for proportionality.

If one is on the BCP for therapeutic reasons but is also married, at a minimum, the woman is morally obligated to determine if an alternative medication that does not terminate pregnancy is available.

If it is not, then she is obligated to effectively remain abstinent, as the possible resultant loss of life (even if not explicitly intended) trumps any possible good from it.

Fr. Serpa (I believe) is arguing that with the lack of intent, the woman is exonerated in this instance. By belief is that with the foreknowledge that the Pill can act as abortifacient, the woman who the conceives and aborts is guilty of sin by omission, at the very least.
 
I am cynical about this issue.

For years in the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s physicians prescribed BCPs to some Catholic women for the stated purpose of “regulating their periods.” These women could then say that they took BCPs but not for contraception, only for other medical reasons. Contraception was only a side effect. I think this manuevering was cynical and dishonest; but with the doctor’s diagnosis and prescribed treatment in hand, who can argue with it? There is a physician-partient privilege just like a priest-penitent privilege.

Now, I don’t think most even bother with the smoke screen anymore. I know Catholic mothers who routinely put their teen-age daughters on BCPs and make sure they take them. They don’t make any bones about it.
 
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amasimp:
Some doctors prescribe oral contraceptives to women as treatment for ovarian cysts and endometriosis. Can a Catholic woman take these in good conscience provided she abstains from sex? In other words, is it ok to take the pill for purely theraputic reasons?
It is not a sin , but keep an eye on your weight . Get well
 
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cargopilot:
I would have to second that.

If there is anyone on the planet who could legitimately use the old ‘medical reasons’, my wife could. But she doesn’t. She and her doctor have found other ways.

She has mentioned her many friends ‘medical reasons’, (they all have one) and to her, they are pretty weak. She says ‘Oh that’s just a Catholic’s way of making it OK.’

I thank God everyday, for bringing her to me, so many years ago.
Do you know of an alternative medicine for ovarian fibrosis? (I think that was what it was called)
 
Check with the Pope Paul VI Insitute.
popepaulvi.com/

Using the pill as a gynecological catch-all is not a great idea, and unfortunately that’s about all they teach doctors to do.
 
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OriginalJS:
I think this manuevering was cynical and dishonest; but with the doctor’s diagnosis and prescribed treatment in hand, who can argue with it?.
Talk about sacralidge.
Loopholes don’t count after you die.
 
Where on this website or some other do they explain medical alternatives as a treatment for the problems? All I have ever found on the internet is a recipie for taking advil and calcuim, etc. I have not seen specific treatments for the usual slew of female problems. If they exist, where are they?

Given the vast number of times I have seen these websites posted on this forum and the absolute zero times I have seen any actual real medical anything proposed as an alternative, I’m begining to wonder if this is some nostrum that you have to pay for before even knowing what it is.
 
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Pug:
Where on this website or some other do they explain medical alternatives as a treatment for the problems? All I have ever found on the internet is a recipie for taking advil and calcuim, etc. I have not seen specific treatments for the usual slew of female problems. If they exist, where are they?

Given the vast number of times I have seen these websites posted on this forum and the absolute zero times I have seen any actual real medical anything proposed as an alternative, I’m begining to wonder if this is some nostrum that you have to pay for before even knowing what it is.
I can’t do them justice. I’ll get my wife to explain. She’ s much more knowledgleble than I. We (her more than I) are currently workign wqith them to reslove her gynecological problems. But rest assured it’s not some juju hippy **. Hommie don’t play that game.
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Trelow:
I can’t do them justice. I’ll get my wife to explain. She’ s much more knowledgleble than I. We (her more than I) are currently workign wqith them to reslove her gynecological problems. But rest assured it’s not some juju hippy **. Hommie don’t play that game.
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Trelow, that would be very nice of her to do! I really would like to hear it.
 
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Pug:
Trelow, that would be very nice of her to do! I really would like to hear it.
Here ya go. I don’t know for sure what she wrote as to the fact I haven;‘t read it yet. But you or anyone still has questions, and you don’ t feel like calling them to ask, feel free to contact us. If you PM me I’l give you are address or number and she would be more than happy to help answer any questions, or provide any support.

 
Trelow's wife:
The Pope Paul VI Institute was started by a doctor of medicine in gynecology whose name is Thomas W. Hilgers. He began his research in 1968 as a senior medical student. Working at St. Louis University and Creighton University Schools of Medicine, he and his co-workers developed the Creighton Model Fertility Care System. Currently, Dr. Hilgers is a senior medical consultant in obstetrics, gynecology, reproductive medicine, and surgery at the Pope Paul VI Institute for the Study of Human Reproduction and he is an associate clinical professor in the department of obstetrics and gynecology at Creighton University School of Medicine. He is also the director of the Institute’s National Center for Women’s Health.
Dr. Hilger’s began an independent evaluation of the Billing’s Ovulation Method in 1976. He and his co-workers we able to solidify the scientific foundations of the method. They then developed a teaching methodology which has now become known as the Creighton Model Fertility Care System (CrMS). This is a completely standardized teaching program which is used throughout the United States and in several foreign countries. Because it is standardized, there is a common language that all women use which makes the system very objective. This has been the key to expanding the scope of the CrMS from simply a system of family planning to a system which also includes women’s health. The CrMS is scientifically sound, accurate, precise, and effective. It can be used not only to achieve or avoid pregnancy but also to further the evaluation of infertility, repetitive miscarriage, abnormal bleeding, recurrent ovarian cysts, pelvic pain, premenstrual syndrome, etc. It does all of this in a way which cooperates with one’s fertility, respects the dignity of women and the integrity of marriage. As a bonus, it helps married couples discover the “inner soul” of their human sexuality.
Now that the history is out of the way I can tell you about myself and how the CrMS has affected me. I have had gynecological problems since puberty and for a long time believed they were just part of being a women. During the onset of one particular cycle I bled for more than six weeks without any relief. I decided at this point I should see a doctor and was put on the birth control pill at the age of 15. Thus began the long journey to where I am now.
I continued to have problems with long periods of bleeding, abdominal and lower back pain, mood swings, and depression although the only answer I got from several different gynecologists was to take the pill as this would “straighten me out”. I had moral issues with this because as a Catholic I didn’t believe in taking the birth control pill so I was continually telling myself, surely it must be okay since its for medical reasons not controlling fertility. It also bothered me that none of the doctors were concerned with finding out why I was having these problems and instead chose to “mask” the symptoms of an underlying condition.
Thirteen years later, after getting married, having two high-risk pregnancies and one miscarriage, my husband found the website for the Pope Paul VI Institute. He printed out information including a phone number and I called them. The woman I spoke to was very friendly and put me in contact with a Creighton Model practitioner in my area. The protocol for treatment is to first chart your cycles for two months and the practitioner then sends them along with a letter explaining her evaluation to Dr. Hilgers. He looks over the information and determines whether he could help with any problems you may be facing. If it is determined that treatment would be beneficial he will then set a appointment to meet with him.
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