Is the Fatima Prayer an American Phenomenon

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I mean praying the Fatima Prayer after each decade of the rosary. Well, is it? For instance, on a CD of Pray the Rosary with the Holy Father Pope Venerable John Paul II, who was no small supporter of Our Lady of Fatima, the Fatima Prayer is not employed. So, is it just an American Phenomenon?

Fatima Prayer: O my Jesus, forgive us our sins and save us from the fires of hell. Lead all souls into heaven, especially those most in need of thy mercy.
 
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I mean praying the Fatima Prayer after each decade of the rosary. Well, is it? For instance, on a CD of Pray the Rosary with the Holy Father Pope Venerable John Paul II, who was no small supporter of Our Lady of Fatima, the Fatima Prayer is not employed. So, is it just an American Phenomenon?

Fatima Prayer: O my Jesus, forgive us our sins and save us from the fires of hell. Lead all souls into heaven, especially those most in need of thy mercy.
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I don’t know about other countries but I know it was not said as part of the rosary when I was young (50’s - 70’s). I don’t know exactly when it came into use because I was away from the Church and did not pray the rosary for many years. When I came back to the Church not that long ago I heard it for the first time.
 
I was brought up in the fifties and yes the Fatima prayer was used daily as partof our everyday prayers ,that was in Scotland
 
John Paul II’s recordings also omit the usual prayers on the string part of the rosary (Our Father, Haily Marys, etc.) From what I understand the Apostles’ Creed is an English/American tradition. Maybe Irish, too, I’m not sure. I would guess it was used as a way to affirm their faith among the heretics. I also know of certain Latino Catholics who call this the “cola” (tail) of the rosary, so I guess they pray it at the end. In any case, I believe it always is included with some prayers, regardless of country.
 
Sometimes I use a recording of a scriptural rosary made by students at a Catholic University that has the following prayer after the Fatima prayer:

Jesus, Mary, and Joseph we love you. Save the souls of the unborn children, all souls in purgatory, all priests and religious, and all marriages and families. Amen.

Has anyone heard this before or have any idea where it comes from?
 
Why does a poll have to deal with opinions? Why can’t it ask any number of things such as actions or lack of ?

My wife is from New Jersey and was raised during the 50’s and 60’s and she taught me to say the Rosary. And yes, they always said the Fatima prayer.
 
We never said the Fatima Prayer when I was growing up in the 50’s and 60’s. And we didn’t add any prayers to the end of the Rosary either. And I went to a Catholic school. I didn’t start using the Fatima Prayer until I heard Mother Angelica say it on EWTN.

What has to be remembered is that the apparitions at Fatima didn’t happen until 1917, and the prayer was not approved for public use until 1930, (I Googled it and found this date), and probably did not become popular until later decades, so that many of my generation did not learn it from our parents, grandparents, and teachers because they were not taught to say it. Now, almost everyone seems to say it.

I wouldn’t call it an American phenomenon. It was revealed in Europe, and probably spread from there.
 
I was born in 1950 in a small town in southeast Missouri. We prayed the family rosary and always added the Fatima prayer. My husband grew up in St. Louis and his family also prayed the family rosary including the fatima prayer. We have lived in the state of Washington for almost 29 years and the rosary is prayed every day at church including the Fatima prayer. However, there are times when the Fatima prayer is not prayed and that is when the rosary is prayed for the deceased. Following each decade is the prayer, “Eternal rest grant unto him/her O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon him/her.”
 
corsair said:
Why does a poll have to deal with opinions? Why can’t it ask any number of things such as actions or lack of ?
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This particular poll is asking whether or not you pray the Fatima Prayer with the Rosary (an action or lack thereof).
 
corsair said:
Why does a poll have to deal with opinions? Why can’t it ask any number of things such as actions or lack of ?

My wife is from New Jersey and was raised during the 50’s and 60’s and she taught me to say the Rosary. And yes, they always said the Fatima prayer.
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We have boys in the Corps and brides from New Jersey. What else can a couple of converts from Washington State who love the Old Mass have in common? My wife is from South Jersey. She is more Philadelphia (pronounced fuldelfia) than New York. She lost her charming accent out here though. You’d never know where she was from except when the Flyers are trying to win the Stanley Cup.

Being only familiar with the Rosary since the 90’s we always have said the Fatima prayer. The Dominicans have their own way of saying it which I used when studying to be third order. They skip the Creed and add a couple smaller things. I can’t remember exactly though anymore.
 
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I mean praying the Fatima Prayer after each decade of the rosary. Well, is it? For instance, on a CD of Pray the Rosary with the Holy Father Pope Venerable John Paul II, who was no small supporter of Our Lady of Fatima, the Fatima Prayer is not employed. So, is it just an American Phenomenon?

Fatima Prayer: O my Jesus, forgive us our sins and save us from the fires of hell. Lead all souls into heaven, especially those most in need of thy mercy.
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My guess is that because there are a variety of prayers that might by added after each decade, the recording of the Pope simply omitted all of them, and left that upto people praying the rosary using the recording, so that they could add prayers they were used to.
 
Our Lady of Fatima asked that the prayer be added to the end of each decade. The form in which we pray it, however, happens not to be the exact form in which she gave it to the children. Lucia gives the following version in her Memoirs:
O my Jesus, forgive us, save us from the fire of hell. Lead all souls to heaven, especially those who are most in need.
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Yellow_Belle said:
As a matter of interest, why is there a poll on something that’s not a matter of opinion?
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Not every poll is an opinion poll.
IntegraCatholic said:
John Paul II’s recordings also omit the usual prayers on the string part of the rosary (Our Father, Haily Marys, etc.) From what I understand the Apostles’ Creed is an English/American tradition. Maybe Irish, too, I’m not sure. I would guess it was used as a way to affirm their faith among the heretics. I also know of certain Latino Catholics who call this the “cola” (tail) of the rosary, so I guess they pray it at the end. In any case, I believe it always is included with some prayers, regardless of country.
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There is more than one way to pray the Rosary. In the Order of Preachers (Dominicans), we don’t start out with the Creed, the Our Father, three Hail Marys and the Glory Be. We start it out this way:
V. Lord, open my lips.
R. And my mouth shall proclaim Thy praise.
V. God, come to my assistance.
R. Lord, make haste to help me.
Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit; as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen. Alleluia. (During Lent: instead of “Alleluia”: Praise be to You, O King of eternal glory.)
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I always include the Fatima Prayer when saying the Holy Rosary each day.
As for it being a primarily American phenomenon, I hope that is not so.
 
Fatima prayer has always been in the rosary as far as I have known. I myself always add a few different prayers too!
 
I was taught the Rosary by Irish Sisters of Mercy in mid-late 1970s (in California) and did not learn the Fatima prayer. I heard it for the first time when Catholic radio came to town, about 15 years ago.
 
This is an old thread but I will answer anyway.

I grew in a French Canadian family where the rosary was said often, if not daily, and always if we went for a drive.

I had to look up “Fatima Prayer” to find out what it was.

My parents didn’t pray the it as part of the Rosary but my aunt who lived next door always did. Since she mumbled and chewed her words, the prayer itself wasn’t the clearest I’ve ever heard but having just looked it up online, I realize that that’s one of the things she said during the Rosary. She always ended it with the words that are found on the Miraculous Medal: “O Marie, conçue sans péché, priez pour nous qui avons recours à vous.”
 
Yeah. Old thread. But I guess I am old too so… 😃

grew up in California in the 1960s and the Fatima prayer was not taught to us in school as part of the Rosary. We just learned to say the Apostles Creed, Our Fathers, Hail Marys, and Glory Bes. 🙂

But when i happened to attend communal devotion rosaries with my mother it was often included. I can remember wondering why all these adults knew the prayer because it wasn’t something taught in Catholic school and was not part of the rosary according to any of the prayer books or children’s missals we had.

Now days I seldom hear a rosary prayed without the inclusion of the Fatima prayer (and also other prayers). It’s been my observation that some new prayer gets added by a group who has special devotion to a particular Marian apparition or other supernatural visitation. Eventually these prayers “spread” and become so common that young people assume the Rosary was always said this way.

Since the rosary is now and has always been a private devotion (even if said communally) it is not surprising that it has “grown” over the years to include additional prayers and most people don’t even know that anything has changed.
 
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