Is the Mass Idolatry?

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False, because the accidents belonged to the substance of the bread which is now Christ. They are remnants of a prior reality. So how would they be God if there is no bread and wine for them to be related to?
 
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But if they have no subject, then they are Created parts of reality with NO relationship to Christ!
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I don’t get it. It is Christ. What I see and taste looks and tastes like bread, but it’s Christ.

Didn’t you also post the “Sola scriptura Catholic” post? You should go ask these questions to an actual priest and get these issues sorted out. I’m worried for you.
 
Nice article, but it didn’t answer my question- Are the accidents of bread and wine, the sensible signs and appearances, God himself? If yes, where is this taught, if no, how can they be worshiped?
 
But are the sensible signs, which are not the substance, God? If the substance is distinct from the accidents, and the accidents remain, are they properly worshipped since they are not the substance?
 
I am not questioning if he is present in the Eucharist, I am certain he is. But if he is distinct from the appearances, should the appearances be worshipped since they are not the same as him?
 
Couldn’t a similar question be asked like in the Book of Revelation when Jesus appears like a slain lamb should he be worshipped under that form?🤔☺️
 
Accidents are non-essential. Substance is essential.

It is sufficient to say that the consecrated host is God. When we look at a human, we don’t say; “Oh look! A human in the accidents!”
 
No, because it is understood as a symbolic representation in its entirety.

Transubstantiation says that the former reality of bread and wine has changed into the present reality of Body and Blood. It’s not a symbol. But the exterior sensible signs of bread and wine remain. But logically, they have no connection to anything. So, since they are not taken up into God, and they have no inner reality, how can they be adored?
 
That’s because the accidents have an inner relation to the human substance. The Eucharistic accidents have no relation to any substance.
 
Yet the Eucharist is still God, because accidents are non-essential.
 
But what if adoration goes to the non-essential? Is it idolatry?
 
No it is not becuase the Eucharist is God. There really is no need to over-complicate it.
 
This is how I understand the Catholic view as a non-Catholic- please correct me if I am wrong.

If you were to take the Eucharistic wafer and stick it in a mass spectrometer, it would come out as bread (I dont advocate doing this). BUT Jesus said “this is my body”. Therefore although it looks like bread it isn’t by definition as it has become the body of Christ because God has said so.
 
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