Is The Pope Pushing For One World Government?

[Steve40]

I got the following quote from the link below. In this statement is the Pope calling for one world government because I think the only way to achieve what he is asking is for that to take place.

We have no control over a dictators or oppressive governments starving their people. I don’t believe one world government is the answer. It will only put all of us in opression. Maybe he is saying that the free world should take over the not so free world by force.

No, I think he didn’t want the US to go into Iraque. What is he thinking???

Taken from ewtn.com/news/index.asp

“The great challenge of today is to globalize not just economic and commercial interests, but also the call for solidarity,” the Pope said in his message to the FAO meeting. He acknowledged the role for agricultural advances in increasing the food supply, but argued that technical solutions “are not enough to meet shortfalls in food.” The most pressing problem, he said, is not increasing production, but “effective distribution of that production.” The Holy Father said that every human being has a right to life, and that right implies the accompanying right to the things necessary to sustain life. Thus the “primary right to food is intrinsically linked to the safeguarding and defense of human life,” he concluded.

 

[Eden]

I got the following quote from the link below. In this statement is the Pope calling for one world government because I think the only way to achieve what he is asking is for that to take place.

We have no control over a dictators or oppressive governments starving their people. I don’t believe one world government is the answer. It will only put all of us in opression. Maybe he is saying that the free world should take over the not so free world by force.

No, I think he didn’t want the US to go into Iraque. What is he thinking???

Taken from ewtn.com/news/index.asp

“The great challenge of today is to globalize not just economic and commercial interests, but also the call for solidarity,” the Pope said in his message to the FAO meeting. He acknowledged the role for agricultural advances in increasing the food supply, but argued that technical solutions “are not enough to meet shortfalls in food.” The most pressing problem, he said, is not increasing production, but “effective distribution of that production.” The Holy Father said that every human being has a right to life, and that right implies the accompanying right to the things necessary to sustain life. Thus the “primary right to food is intrinsically linked to the safeguarding and defense of human life,” he concluded.

I think the Pope is referring to the fact that our economy and commercial interests are already becoming more and more globalized and that, in this new paradigm, we must also be aware that we are all responsible for our brother. In other words, those who have been blessed with much are obligated to help those who have little. There is nothing radical in this statement. He is talking about charity and the dignity of every human life. He is also speaking to the fact that we have enough food to sustain the entire planet, but greed and political corruption prevent the food from getting to the people who need it. I don’t see anywhere in this quote where he is promoting a “One World Government”.

 

[fhansen]

I got the following quote from the link below. In this statement is the Pope calling for one world government because I think the only way to achieve what he is asking is for that to take place.

We have no control over a dictators or oppressive governments starving their people. I don’t believe one world government is the answer. It will only put all of us in opression. Maybe he is saying that the free world should take over the not so free world by force.

No, I think he didn’t want the US to go into Iraque. What is he thinking???

Taken from ewtn.com/news/index.asp

“The great challenge of today is to globalize not just economic and commercial interests, but also the call for solidarity,” the Pope said in his message to the FAO meeting. He acknowledged the role for agricultural advances in increasing the food supply, but argued that technical solutions “are not enough to meet shortfalls in food.” The most pressing problem, he said, is not increasing production, but “effective distribution of that production.” The Holy Father said that every human being has a right to life, and that right implies the accompanying right to the things necessary to sustain life. Thus the “primary right to food is intrinsically linked to the safeguarding and defense of human life,” he concluded.

He wants to feed the poor/hungry.

 

[Steve40]

I think the Pope is referring to the fact that our economy and commercial interests are already becoming more and more globalized and that, in this new paradigm, we must also be aware that we are all responsible for our brother. In other words, those who have been blessed with much are obligated to help those who have little. There is nothing radical in this statement. He is talking about charity and the dignity of every human life. He is also speaking to the fact that we have enough food to sustain the entire planet, but greed and political corruption prevent the food from getting to the people who need it. I don’t see anywhere in this quote where he is promoting a “One World Government”.

“The great challenge of today is to globalize not just economic and commercial interests, but also the call for solidarity,”

The way I see it there is only one way to get this kind of solidarity and it won’t be pretty. When Christ comes again He will rule with an iron rod and we will have it. Until then these words are words of more opression to me.

 

[Eden]

“The great challenge of today is to globalize not just economic and commercial interests, but also the call for solidarity,”

The way I see it there is only one way to get this kind of solidarity and it won’t be pretty. When Christ comes again He will rule with an iron rod and we will have it. Until then these words are words of more opression to me.

You are reading into something that is just not there. The Pope is not interested in “governments” per se, as they are all flawed. He’s stating the obvious, that the world* is* globalizing (are you denying that?) and that we have an obligation to all human beings to stand firm on protecting their rights and dignity. What is wrong with calling for solidarity amongst all people on the issue that all human life is valuable? Do you not agree that we should be united in this belief? Or do you believe some lives are less valuable than your own? (If so, please give examples of less valuable life).

 

[Steve40]

You are reading into something that is just not there. The Pope is not interested in “governments” per se, as they are all flawed. He’s stating the obvious, that the world* is* globalizing (are you denying that?) and that we have an obligation to all human beings to stand firm on protecting their rights and dignity. What is wrong with calling for solidarity amongst all people on the issue that all human life is valuable? Do you not agree that we should be united in this belief? Or do you believe some lives are less valuable than your own? (If so, please give examples of less valuable life).

I believe human life is worth dieing for and if necessary killing in just war for. On this side of original sin I don’t see the possibility of what he is talking about, but I do see the possible manipulation of his words to the point of more evil, not less. “Solidarity” in my view has become a dirty word. We need to feed the hungry yes, but the way to do this is not through solidarity it is through defeating evil in our time.

 

[Eden]

I believe human life is worth dieing for and if necessary killing in just war for. On this side of original sin I don’t see the possibility of what he is talking about, but I do see the possible manipulation of his words to the point of more evil, not less. “Solidarity” in my view has become a dirty word. We need to feed the hungry yes, but the way to do this is not through solidarity it is through defeating evil in our time.

He is not talking about dying for human life. He is talking about being in universal agreement that every human life is of value. Since a perfect world, a world of original sin, is impossible to attain, we shouldn’t bother trying? The specific solidarity that he is talking about is the belief that human life is valuable. How is that belief dangerous? And the Solidarity movement in Poland was not “evil”, in fact, it defeated the evil of Communism in that country. Moreover, “solidarity” would be the translators choice, as this statement was originally made in Italian. In sum:

Only a shared culture of active and responsible participation can enable every human being to experience themselves neither as a passive witness or a ‘user’ of others, but as an active collaborator in the process of global development. Economic growth - the Holy Father said - must never be divorced from seeking full human and social development. And above all- he added- believers must not forget the responsibility towards the weakest and most needy.

The video is here:

h2onews.org/_page_videoview.php?id_news=754#

 

[goofyjim]

We don’t need a one world government. We need governments open to free enterprise and working in union with others to solve the problems of poverty and hunger. We’re all in this together is what he is trying to say.

 

[CAROLOFTHEBELLS]

As I read it, I see that he may be speaking to what has happened in Myanmar (don’t know if I spelled that right). We have a duty to help those suffering in another country when necessary, to share our food and take care of their needs, and that country also has a duty to accept our help and to sustain the lives of its citizens. We need to work together to preserve life, not become isolated and concerned only for our own personal needs.

I don’t believe in creating a one world government, but I think what the Pope means is that we are more aware of others needs now and more able to help each other. We should not think only of the progress globization (a reality) brings, but the despair that exist in pockets of the world that we may not be concerned with.

Also, I believe that as the stage is set for a one world government there will be good effects and bad effects brought about by good people and bad people. That is what will make it easy to come about. If you believe in end time prophecy, then you know that the point is to be aware and continue growing and standing firm in your Christian faith.

 

[Steve40]

He is not talking about dying for human life. He is talking about being in universal agreement that every human life is of value. Since a perfect world, a world of original sin, is impossible to attain, we shouldn’t bother trying? The specific solidarity that he is talking about is the belief that human life is valuable. How is that belief dangerous? And the Solidarity movement in Poland was not “evil”, in fact, it defeated the evil of Communism in that country. Moreover, “solidarity” would be the translators choice, as this statement was originally made in Italian. In sum:

Only a shared culture of active and responsible participation can enable every human being to experience themselves neither as a passive witness or a ‘user’ of others, but as an active collaborator in the process of global development. Economic growth - the Holy Father said - must never be divorced from seeking full human and social development. And above all- he added- believers must not forget the responsibility towards the weakest and most needy.

The video is here:

h2onews.org/_page_videoview.php?id_news=754#

Perhaps I should share your optimism but I do not for the following reasons. The Pope is speaking to the UN. The UN is not grounded in Christ and does not show respect for human life within the womb. The UN needs solidarity on respect for the right to live before respect for the right to eat means anything. You can’t eat if you are dead. At this point I see any solidarity gained by the UN as a tower of Babal not solidarity for the good of humanity. If he had made these statements toward a specific nation even saying the US could do more I would not have a problem with it. I think globalization at this point in a Pagan world is going to make things worse not better. Granted I do not know the policies of all nations but I do not believe there are any Christian nations left. Even the US has embraced Paganism as we sacrifice our children to Satan.

 

[rwoehmke]

You are reading into something that is just not there. The Pope is not interested in “governments” per se, as they are all flawed. He’s stating the obvious, that the world* is* globalizing (are you denying that?) and that we have an obligation to all human beings to stand firm on protecting their rights and dignity. What is wrong with calling for solidarity amongst all people on the issue that all human life is valuable? Do you not agree that we should be united in this belief? Or do you believe some lives are less valuable than your own? (If so, please give examples of less valuable life).

I agree with this take on things. It isn’t all about paratroopers and black helicoptors, its about cooperation and concern for the"poor, orphans and widows". We will never get there 100 percent, but it is important to strive in that direction. How we would ever get a one world government when the most powerful nation in this world is having a difficult time solving the problems in Iraq and Afghanistan is beyond comprehension.

 

[CAROLOFTHEBELLS]

I believe that it will be possible for a charismatic leader to come on the scene sometime in the future and get many nations to agree that a “one world government” will “solve” all our problems and bring peace and prosperity to all peoples. One only has to pay attention to the news to see that millions of people can be easily swayed by charm and that we are headed for a time when globization can be manipulated by someone of even a higher calliber of charm. But I firmly believe that our Pope, our Church, and our God will lead us in the right direction. It is up to each individual to hang on to their faith in God, no matter what is said or done, and know that Jesus will come again.

 

[Eden]

Perhaps I should share your optimism but I do not for the following reasons. The Pope is speaking to the UN. The UN is not grounded in Christ and does not show respect for human life within the womb. The UN needs solidarity on respect for the right to live before respect for the right to eat means anything. You can’t eat if you are dead. At this point I see any solidarity gained by the UN as a tower of Babal not solidarity for the good of humanity. If he had made these statements toward a specific nation even saying the US could do more I would not have a problem with it. I think globalization at this point in a Pagan world is going to make things worse not better. Granted I do not know the policies of all nations but I do not believe there are any Christian nations left. Even the US has embraced Paganism as we sacrifice our children to Satan.

The Pope doesn’t cease to be Catholic, depending on the audience. He doesn’t take the Christian message out of his statements just because the audience is secular.

 

[Steve40]

The Pope doesn’t cease to be Catholic, depending on the audience. He doesn’t take the Christian message out of his statements just because the audience is secular.

Solidarity with those who wish to do evil when they should be confronted, even if the solidarity is for good, is not Catholic. It is dumb and serves no useful purpose. We need to get back to something called excommunication. We need to work on appealing to the morally just to get up and confront the imoral.

We’ll over look the fact that you want to kill kids as long as you feed the living ones, is not a Catholic position.

 

[Eden]

Solidarity with those who wish to do evil when they should be confronted, even if the solidarity is for good, is not Catholic. It is dumb and serves no useful purpose. We need to get back to something called excommunication. We need to work on appealing to the morally just to get up and confront the imoral.

We’ll over look the fact that you want to kill kids as long as you feed the living ones, is not a Catholic position.

Excommunication is alive and well in the Church. But how do you excommunicate and atheist or a Muslim, for instance?

 

[Steve40]

I agree with this take on things. It isn’t all about paratroopers and black helicoptors, its about cooperation and concern for the"poor, orphans and widows". We will never get there 100 percent, but it is important to strive in that direction. How we would ever get a one world government when the most powerful nation in this world is having a difficult time solving the problems in Iraq and Afghanistan is beyond comprehension.

The achieving of one world government is only possible by totalitarian rule. You are correct. In a democratic government where different interests are represented in discussion, it does not appear that the “solidarity” of a one world government is possible. However, if the message is controlled such that all leaders including Church leaders speak of solidarity on various topics of concern, even with the best of intentions, a one world government is coming. Let’s just talk about solidarity for the environment and solidarity for feeding the poor and we’ll get there.

 

[Steve40]

Excommunication is alive and well in the Church. But how do you excommunicate and atheist or a Muslim, for instance?

You don’t communicate in solidarity with them. Hence the word “ex”-communication.

 

[fhansen]

Solidarity with those who wish to do evil when they should be confronted, even if the solidarity is for good, is not Catholic. It is dumb and serves no useful purpose. We need to get back to something called excommunication. We need to work on appealing to the morally just to get up and confront the imoral.

We’ll over look the fact that you want to kill kids as long as you feed the living ones, is not a Catholic position.

But waiting until the evil in the world is eradicated before we attempt to feed the kids won’t work and isn’t Catholic either. Besides, we have evil in our own backyard. The wheat and tares will grow together in this world and in us until God does the final uprooting. Meanwhile, we need to act.

 

[marymol]

Sounds as though our Holy Father is rereminding us all to coninue on the foundation of Mercy , a solid value for all cultures !

Mercy, described as the most magnificent attribute of God , that Pope John paul 11 also describes as a power that unifies and elevates the human person …

yhst-23562211788064.stores.yahoo.net/insafascofme.html

A good little book , that helps to furthur explore the diffrent aspects of this easy to misunderstand virue !

May it be reflected in our deeds, words and prayer !

 

[mlchance]

We’ll over look the fact that you want to kill kids as long as you feed the living ones, is not a Catholic position.

And if the Pope said otherwise, you’d have a point.

– Mark L. Chance.