Is the trinity really that hard to understand?

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Try not to laugh, I was thinking more so of integration and differential equations.

Suppose we have an area under a curve in a 2-D space who’s distance is x = 1 inch
Suppose we can add the sum of the distance; by taking the finite sum of an infinite amount of rectangles, which are infinitely small in width; these rectangles are refereed to as h.
h(one) through h(infinity)
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Therefore a case exist where infinity exist on a finite distance. defined as [0,1]
I don’t really know where I’m going with this from this point. But for me it makes a lot of sense, if there is a co existence of an infinite space and finite space in one area.
Then I don’t see why the existence of a trinity would be so far fetched to some people.
I have these talks with my LDS friends, whom define the Father Son and Holy Spirit as something that is not a trinity. I think this scenario compounds my faith in the traditional definition. anyway
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I hate to be a broken record, but please read Frank Sheed’s book you guys. “Math” has nothing to do with any of this.
 
Evan said:
Except Proton is not an atom, Neutron is not an atom, Electron is not an atom. This is 3 gods. Not trinity.
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Google what a Atom is made up Of and it will tell you that it is made up of ‘‘3 distinct elements’’> proton,neutron,electron.

God is Made up of ‘‘3 distinct Persons’’> Father, Son. Holy Spirit.
 
Mike_from_NJ said:
A mathematician will wonder why you arbitrarily stopped at three factors. 1=1 works, as does 1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1=1.
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Because we are dealing with 3 distinct Persons that Make up 1 God…1x1x1=1

Jews and Muslims say 1 distinct Person that make up 1 God…1=1

If the Persons in the Godhead increased then it could be 22 distinct Persons that make up 1 God.

1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1=1.
 
shaky said:
Because we are dealing with 3 distinct Persons that Make up 1 God…1x1x1=1

Jews and Muslims say 1 distinct Person that make up 1 God…1=1

If the Persons in the Godhead increased then it could be 22 distinct Persons that make up 1 God.

1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1=1.
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Two problems:
  1. There’s no reason that there couldn’t be further entities that make up the Godhead unbeknownst to Christians. Perhaps God is really 1x1x1x1x1 but Christians are only aware of 3/5ths of Him.
  2. On a mathematical basis it doesn’t work because not only is there are an equality portion but an inequality portion. The Father is not the Son. The Son is not the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not the Father. With your example, you’re saying three times over that 1 does not equal 1.
 
shaky said:
Google what a Atom is made up Of and it will tell you that it is made up of ‘‘3 distinct elements’’> proton,neutron,electron.

God is Made up of ‘‘3 distinct Persons’’> Father, Son. Holy Spirit.
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But all that means is that each part is a subset of the whole. The trinity is supposed to represent something more than just members of a group. Apollo, Zeus, Poseidon, and Hades are all Olympians but you wouldn’t call Greek mythology monotheistic.

Whatever analogy you use has to explain that each item has to share sameness/oneness but yet have differences.
 
Threep said:
What about Hydrogen? 😛
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Two Hydrogen atoms are walking along the street.
The first atom says, “I think I lost my electron.”

The second Hydrogen atom asks, “Are you sure?”

The first one replies, “I’m POSITIVE!!”

🤷😃 It is one of my favorite jokes.

Now to the trinity - there is a puzzle, which if one has never contemplated the idea, seems impossible. The puzzle is making a peg fit both a round and square hole. It seems more improbable when a 3rd shape - a triangle is added. Yet this can be accomplished.

Also, in reading books about St. Patrick it is mentioned his use of the shamrock to explain the trinity. Most statues of St. Patrick have him holding two items - a shepherd’s crook and a shamrock. Now, since the trinity is good enough for St. Patrick and others it is good enough for me.

God bless
 
A husband and wife are two people yet in Genesis it describes them as becoming one flesh, does this mean through intercourse or is there some other meaning of oneness?

Genesis 2 -24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.

Could the oneness be through the greatest commandments?

The husband loves God with all his heart, soul mind and strength and he loves his wife as he loves himself.

The wife returns perfect love by

Loving God with all her heart, soul, mind and strength, and she loves her husband as she loves herself.

Two people united through the greatest commandments.

Could the greatest commandments be used to describe the oneness between God the Father and God the Son

Jesus loves God the Father with all his heart, soul, mind and strength and he loves each and every one of us as he loves himself.

Does God the Father respond to this love?

God the Father loves God the Son, with all his heart, soul, mind and strength.
And he loves each and everyone of us as he loves himself.
 
Mike_from_NJ said:
Two problems:
  1. There’s no reason that there couldn’t be further entities that make up the Godhead unbeknownst to Christians. Perhaps God is really 1x1x1x1x1 but Christians are only aware of 3/5ths of Him.
  2. On a mathematical basis it doesn’t work because not only is there are an equality portion but an inequality portion. The Father is not the Son. The Son is not the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not the Father. With your example, you’re saying three times over that 1 does not equal 1.
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The Lord only reveled Himself in 3 Persons. There is equality because the Son is in the bosom of Father, The Father is in the Son. And the Holy Spirit is in ‘‘Both’’ the Father and the Son.
The Holy Spirit is ‘‘Both’’ the Father and the Son.
All without separation.
 
God is love. Love needs to be shared. I see the three persons in one God living in perfect unity. Each Person has a different purpose, yet together they express the many facets of one GOD. ** It’s like God is a family, within himself**.
 
VeritasLuxMea said:
Well, I’m not an engineer or scientist - so maybe if I was, I would get it.

But here you’re talking about a concept that is not tri-theism.

Nor is it modalism.

So what’s left? As best as I can tell, nothing.
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I find the “One what, three whos” explanation persuasive, and also distinct from the two heretical options.

Mind, the Trinity is still nothing like anything we encounter in earthly life, but at least that explanation reminds us that the “three” and the “one” are not referring to the same thing.

Usagi
 
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