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adriancombe
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Actually, while I would likely never pay for satellite radio, when I had it on rental car, it gave me access to a Catholic radio station I have no other way to access.
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Nick_in_MB
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It’s basically like this model.
amazon.com/Cobra-Performance-Radar-Laser-Detector/dp/B00122PMTE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1242271940&sr=8-2
It’s the safety alert signal that goes off for the other vehicles I believe. 1 of those, oddly, is always for an automatic door. Really makes it useless.
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aspawloski4th
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First there is one and only one reason I don’t have a radar detector, MONEY! I’m poor! I’m one of those at risk of forclosure right now. Second as for searching through my stuff. While I never carry anything illegal, I do carry stuff that can be embarassing, if you want to know what that embarassing, very embarassing at this stage of my life. If you are curious of what that maybe look at other threads Iv’e posted in , in the lest couple of months, Ill leave it at that. As for the punctual issue. I live pretty much a planned and routine life I plan things air tight. I grew upo with a father who knows to the minute what he will be doing 2 saturdays from now, so don’t think I’m the most ridgid. I’m a getting done mode type person and in my eyes no acomplishing what you set out to because of things going to slow is not acceptable to me ever. I’ve missed out on lots of things in life because I was to slow, I don’t plan for that to keep up. Whats my method of knowing I’m being watched? Give you a hint, my eyesight is some where between 20/15 and 20/ 10 and I use it. Most of the time I drive between 3 and 8 miles over the speed limit. When there is slow and ice a bit slower.I don’t really understand what you’re saying here… Who’s telling you what you need?
Being a private person really shouldn’t have that much to do w/ a cursory look at your car. Theoretically, anyone can look into the windows of your car when you park in a public lot. So a cop walking up to your vehicle & checking out the visible contents is not in any way violating your privacy. Actually, the purpose is not necessarily to see if you have anything illegal as much as its to check to see if you have anything dangerous to the officer himself. As for strangers going through your stuff, well, I guess you shouldn’t be flying any time soon, or going to the local courthouse, or anywhere they take security very seriously. Heck, at the Kentucky Derby everyone going into the infield had to have their persons & possessions searched for alcohol & other ‘contraband’. I guess that was a gross violation of their privacy…
One day you may very well trade your safety for what you call punctuality & end up losing the punctuality as well! Baring emergency-type situations, there is always a choice made when to leave to ensure you’ll arrive on time (or early) while maintaining speeds & other driving behaviors that are within the laws. Personally, my safety is more important to me than punctuality b/c God entrusted me to keep myself & those in contact w/ me safe. Its my choice whether I show up on time or not. I can plan and be safe as well as punctual. That’s my goal. I don’t necessarily give one up for the other. As a matter of fact, I’m not entirely sure that should ever be the option taken from a moral perspective. We are after-all temples of God and He desires us to keep our bodies in good shape. He also expects us to look out for our neighbors. I don’t think Jesus was preaching about punctuality in the NT. Also, unless you’re going a long distance or really fast, you don’t gain that much time by going 5-10 mph over the limit (do the math). So not only are you risking your personal safety & that of other drivers/people, you’re not even gaining the time you so desparately want…
Also, I’m confused now. Didn’t you earlier state that you don’t use your radar detector (if you have/had one) to evade tickets? Instead you use(d) it to monitor the police while they were monitoring you? If so, why are you now arguing that speeding for the sake of punctuality (or anything) is morally acceptable?
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BiologyBrain
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It’s the safety alert signal that goes off for the other vehicles I believe. 1 of those, oddly, is always for an automatic door. Really makes it useless.
So basically, what you’re saying is that although technically this detector can be used for safety alerts, its useless for that purpose. That would mean that the main purpose (the one the device was designed for & advertized for) is to detect radar of cops checking for speed.
I still say that for the most part, radar detectors are at the very least a near occasion of sin and therefore at least vaguely immoral. I say that based on the fact that most people using a radar detector aren’t using it merely to monitor cops and/or to alert for safety vehicles.
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BiologyBrain
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I disagree. Its no harder to stay at a consistent speed than it is to stay in your lane and/or aware of what’s going on around you while driving. Its not like you have to stare at your speedometer constantly. You should be able to feel even gradual increases/decreases in speed and/or engine performance. I thought it was normal and/or expected to glance in your mirrors (all 3), gauges (including speedometer), and back through the windshield frequently while driving. The speedometer is designed to be easy to quickly glance at & know what speed you’re travelling (and then make adjustments as necessary). Using tunnel vision while driving is actually probably more dangerous than keeping a close eye on your mirrors and gauges while also monitoring the road (conditions, traffic, etc).
Personal note: I made a conscious effort this morning while driving to work to note how often I look in my mirrors & at my gauges while driving. I found that probably every few minutes at the least I was checking everything. Trust me, I don’t drive in particularly well-traveled locations, so I don’t really have all that much traffic to watch for (or cops). However, during my drivers ed (both from my parents & the class), it was reinforced to frequently check mirrors & gauges while driving. On my driving test I was actually marked down for not checking my mirrors often enough.
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Nick_in_MB
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No, the safety alert one doesn’t go off for automatic doors. It’s one of the other bands that does, oddly the one that’s typical for dectecting radar down here. Either that, or the cop is checking the speed of cars from inside CVS.
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BiologyBrain
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Cops have seen most everything - so even if its embarassing to you personally, the cops most likely not going to be embarassed &/or make fun of you. My Lt. one time pulled a woman over for speeding who was pumping breastmilk while she drove. That embarassed both of them!
If you’re such a planner, then you shouldn’t have much trouble factoring in a time-buffer while travelling IMO. I’m a planner as well (although I’m not always punctual if it doesn’t really matter), so I plan when traveling to hit some weirdness by adding at least 5 minutes to my trip time. My mom usually adds at least 10 minutes. We’re kind of OCD on some things, so I completely understand being rigid!
I’m a firm advocate for using what God gave us (our eyes & ears) to ‘detect’ things like that. I drive probably about like that as well. I don’t think radar detectors are necessary and/or a good moral thing.
Good luck & happy driving!
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BiologyBrain
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I think the bestradardetectors.com website indicates that in their statement. I was unclear as to what you meant. I also noticed on one website (for Cobra I think) that only emergency vehicles fitted w/ a safety alert transmitter are detectable. I’m not sure that most emergency vehicles in my area would be outfitted w/ that. Heck, sometimes I think our cops are lucky to have radar guns in their cars (or even cars at all)!
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Nick_in_MB
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In my 4 cylinder Kia, I can feel the change in speed. When I drive my more powerful car though, that I don’t drive all that much, I can’t feel the change in speed at all. I can hear it though, so I may need to get that looked at.
It isn’t hard to stay at a constant speed. But it’s also very easy to be looking around, using the three mirrors, looking out for deer (woods around here, a lot of deer, and bears), and look at speedometer and realize I’m doing 65 in a 60. It only takes a few seconds to do that too. And I slow down and get back to 60.
So are all these health issues the result of speeding?I also will say this…I don’t know how many of you are familiar with Dr Oz, but he did a study that people who drive 10 to 20 miles an hour regularly, over the speed limit, have higher blood pressure on average, and are in general, in high strung/anxious moods. So, for health reasons alone…SLOW DOWN.
Or is the speeding just another symptom of an overall issue that is also causing the health problems?
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Nick_in_MB
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Well, I went out to lunch, and turned the thing off and put it in glove compartment. I guess this thread made me think a bit.
However…
Coming back from lunch, I was on a 4 lane road, which is 2 on one side, 2 on the other, and there’s a concrete median in the middle, no shoulder either. Just describing the road. And doing the speed limit, 45, along with all the other people leaving work, going to pick kids up from school, or just driving around (because that’s what tourists do). And suddenly a cop was flashing his light behind me, and only then did I hear the siren. No radio on, my XM was at work, and radio down here is filled with too much innuendo (probably because of all the strip clubs). He wasn’t pulling me over, and I didn’t think he was. But I was given no time to allow him to pass. I was in the left lane, as I have to make a left turn, and cars were next to me, not letting me into their lane to let the cop through. I have no doubt my radar detector would have detected him from a distance, that I would have had an advanced warning to get out of the way (or at least be on the look out).
It’ll be hooked back up tonight. I don’t like shaking over the possibility of getting ticketed because I wouldn’t let a cop pass because cars to my right wouldn’t let me into their lane to let the cop pass. And last I checked, not letting them through when they need to (flashing lights and siren) is illegal too.
And how it suddenly appeared behind me… the SUV that was behind me the whole way changed lanes when he could, which meant the cop was behind the SUV, then it was behind me.
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Coming back from lunch, I was on a 4 lane road, which is 2 on one side, 2 on the other, and there’s a concrete median in the middle, no shoulder either. Just describing the road. And doing the speed limit, 45, along with all the other people leaving work, going to pick kids up from school, or just driving around (because that’s what tourists do). And suddenly a cop was flashing his light behind me, and only then did I hear the siren. No radio on, my XM was at work, and radio down here is filled with too much innuendo (probably because of all the strip clubs). He wasn’t pulling me over, and I didn’t think he was. But I was given no time to allow him to pass. I was in the left lane, as I have to make a left turn, and cars were next to me, not letting me into their lane to let the cop through. I have no doubt my radar detector would have detected him from a distance, that I would have had an advanced warning to get out of the way (or at least be on the look out).
It’ll be hooked back up tonight. I don’t like shaking over the possibility of getting ticketed because I wouldn’t let a cop pass because cars to my right wouldn’t let me into their lane to let the cop pass. And last I checked, not letting them through when they need to (flashing lights and siren) is illegal too.
And how it suddenly appeared behind me… the SUV that was behind me the whole way changed lanes when he could, which meant the cop was behind the SUV, then it was behind me.
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whatevergirl
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*Good question–one would think that it could be a combination. But in and of itself, speeding 10 to 20 miles over the limit causes higher blood pressure. (at that moment) I believe if I recall the article, that it was tested by the docs in a controlled environment. I thought it was interesting nonetheless! *
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whatevergirl
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*Yes I do that as well…I’m saying, to stay right at 60 without a budge, maybe if you put your car on cruise control, but in Tampa at rush hour? Good luck.
I’m actually not a speeder, myself. I think that it can feel like you are going 60, and you look down, and it says 65. 65 mph in a 60, depending on the movement of traffic, is not that high…although over the limit. But it is reasonable error that happens…I agree though, when you look down, you can see that, and slow up. *
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jmcrae
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All of these things - the speeding, the high blood pressure, the anger issues, etc. - are probably symptoms of being over-scheduled - people are expected to live two or three lives simultaneously nowadays - you have to be a student, a worker, and a business owner - or else you have to be a concert pianist, a computer programmer, and a volunteer for the Red Cross - in addition to being a good parent and housekeeper.
I say, slow down - not just on your speed on the highway, but also on the number of places that you have to be every day, not only to avoid accidents, but also to maintain your general mental and physical health.
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Nick_in_MB
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When I had a car with cruise control (yeah, they still make cars without it, as I found out), I used it all the time. I probably drove more dangerous then. Sure, I was always at or just under the speed limit, which was easy to maintain. But I controlled slowing down and accelerating by pressing the various buttons on my cruise control, hardly ever using the peddles.*Yes I do that as well…I’m saying, to stay right at 60 without a budge, maybe if you put your car on cruise control, but in Tampa at rush hour? Good luck.
A cop once told me, always keep the pace. Doing otherwise could cause an accident. Even if the pace is over the speed limit.
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whatevergirl
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*My husband keeps the pace…and goes over the limit. And says that it’s safer to keep the pace this way.
No, I stay in the right hand lane…I go roughly the speedlimit, little under…as I said, sometimes over,but then I bring it down…when I realize…and if someone wants to go around me…GO AROUND ME. In Florida, people drive like…oh my gosh, I have never seen anything like it, except for maybe NJ drivers. But, driving nearly right on someone’s bumper…come on. I see at least 3 accidents every day on my way home from work…JMCRAE–good post…so true!!!*
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Eddie_Mac
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I do not have the case at hand, but IIRC an individual in Texas or somewhere has been convicted of at least 10 DUIs and is not in prison.*Hi Eddie;
On your last statement, my nephew’s soon to be ex wife, recently rec’d a DUI, and she is having her license taken away, except to go to work. Is that what you mean? People who have more than one DUI, will lose their license and face jail time for a while…I used to sell auto insurance and that was the law in PA. I now live in Florida, and it would be highly unlikely that someone with 10 dui’s would be driving around WITH a license, maybe illegally without one. Just curious as to your last comment. *
Laws, even DUI laws, are not about public safety.
I don’t know how much clearer I can be.
We have zero lolerance laws that harass high school students for having pocket knives in their vehicles on school property but drunks can still drive after many, many multiple DUI convictions.
Laws are not about public safety.
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CWBetts
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Laws ARE about public safety. The problem is we have no room in our prisons! Prisons are overcrowded, even in Texas, where the death penalty is apparrently no big deal. It is clear that you will not accept any kind of explanation, but just want to claim government greed. I, for one, would rather see violent criminals in prison than drunks. Perhaps rehab is a better choice for them.
There are many laws that have nothing at all to do with public safety.
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CWBetts
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I concede this point. Speed limits are not among them.
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