Is the Vatican close to clearing up the issue on the requirements for headcoverings?

[Spiller]

**Yes, the church teaches error. ** Particularly the errors of ecumenism and collegiality. Where have you been? Or do you just pull accusations out of thin air and cast them about when someone says something that you don’ want to hear?

Your biting and uncharitable words to me are proof that the Church has failed in so many ways…most today who call themselves “Catholic” are really quite far from it. One thing that you cannot claim, is that I have at any time made personal attacks such as the ones you have made against me.

:hypno:

 

[jmj603]

I know of absolutely no Catholic “chapels and churches where it is required …for women to cover theirs”

Chapels of religious orders are certainly allowed to set dress codes. EWTN’s TV chapel, for example, has a dress code, and a security guard to enforce it!

 

[piouswoman]

FYI - Leonard Feeney was dismissed in 1949 for his beliefs, so this is outside the time frame of the forty years since VII. Strict interpretation of this dogma was never part of Church doctrine and properly understood, it is still a doctrine of the Church.

What does Father Feeney have to do with it? I never said ONE thing about him. Whether you like it our not, “Outside of the Church there is no salvation”, is a dogma of the Catholic Church. Today it is ignored by the Church. It follows then that today, Jesus Christ’s teaching is ignored by the Church. You may wish to read the following:

Will all men go to heaven? Will everyone be saved?

Though the sacrifice of Jesus Christ offered once for all on Calvary and made present at each and every valid Mass is more than sufficient to save all men without exception, it does not follow that all men will consequently be saved. It is a fundamental doctrine of St. Paul that salvation can be acquired only by the grace merited by Christ, and St. Peter himself testified before the High Council “neither is there salvation in any other” (Acts 4:12).

Furthermore this is the significance of the dictum “outside the Church there is no salvation.” Outside of Christ there is nothing, for the gods of the Gentiles are demons (Ps. 95:5).

Ignorance, even if invincible, is not in itself an infallible means of salvation. There is the most serious of obligations to seek the truth, incumbent upon all who are not of the household of the Catholic Faith.

The grace of Christ is always given and must not be refused, and Christ established only one Church in which God is worshipped in spirit and in truth.

It is the deliberate and studied ambiguity of recent texts which causes confusion and leads into the path of error, all religions are not equal, all religions are not good. There is no regard for truth, the truth of Christ, in much recent ecclesiastical teaching.

In a recent review of Crossing the Threshold of Hope, an English journalist writes that reports of the pope’s infallibility are somewhat exaggerated. Everything the Holy Father says is not infallibly true, especially in his remarks on other religions. I will quote Noel Malcolm at length:

He talks [the pope] in relation to other religions —as if spirituality were just an aspect of human experience as such, something which can be found among Hindus, Confucians and ancestor-worshipping aborigines. He even suggests that having the rudiments of spiritual experience connects such people with Christianity and makes them eligible for salvation —a claim which I believe teeters on the edge of heresy (Noel Malcolm, Sunday Telegraph, London, November 6, 1994).

If such a person, who is not Catholic, can understand, why cannot our pope and bishops see the truth that they all professed at one time for most of their lives, but now seek to reinterpret in true revisionist fashion, reminiscent of a supposedly fallen regime. [Article by Fr. Leo Boyle]

 

[EasterJoy]

…There is no regard for truth, the truth of Christ, in much recent ecclesiastical teaching.

In a recent review of Crossing the Threshold of Hope, an English journalist writes that reports of the pope’s infallibility are somewhat exaggerated. Everything the Holy Father says is not infallibly true, especially in his remarks on other religions.
[Boldface mine: EasterJoy]

Since you so readily point out that even the Pope can hold a personal view which may be in error, though he would of course never purposefully speak or teach any falsehood, do you think that it is just possible that some of your remarks might be in error concerning what the Church has and has not taught, what is and is not part of Sacred Tradition, or what level of regard our bishops have for the truth?

Does the Holy Spirit give you a level of certainty He denies to those He has invested with teaching authority?

In other words: Is it or is it not possible that the Holy Spirit might permit you to be wrong in your understanding of what the Church infallibly teaches?

 

[Deacon_Ed_B]

Lets all remember that our Holy Father (and I say this with total respect and loyalty) is infallible only on Faith and Morals when teaching "Ex Cathedra"
Prayers & blessings
Deacon Ed B