Is there anyone here who can cite something they dont like about their religion?

[JoeyWarren]

I don’t know what’s involved in being an usher, but knowing some cantors I think I can reasonably state that there is some significant work involved there, especially if you take the position seriously. You pay your music director don’t you?

Yes, we pay the Music Director. She lives in the next town 30 miles away. She is also the Youth Director. I see the neccesity of paying her, but allowing to showboat is another matter.

Cantors involving significant work? I don’t think so at all. We no longer have a Cantor because the MD does it all. Before we hired a MD, the Cantor only did the “Alleuhia”.

Ushering is very involved. It’s the backbone of discipline and order before and during the service.

As for paying others that are locals? Never. It’s part of the Time and Talent and Tithing mentality. It’s called Stewardship…taking ownership of your church…being a true part of the church not just another face in the congregation.

 

[cheese_sdc]

Cantors involving significant work? I don’t think so at all.

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

In a parish with a serious music ministry the cantors, choir, and instrumentalists will often spend 2.5 hours practicing for every one hour in Mass.

Cantors will have extra practices and solo work, depending on their duties.

I’ve played guitar in my Parish for 10 years and EVERY week we have a 2 hour practice on a weeknight with another 30 minutes before Mass spent. The cantors are expected to walk into the “general” practice already knowing their parts (depending on the talent of the singer, as little as 30 minutes of prep or as much as two hours). Many spend their own money on vocal training (another 30 minutes a week).

The pianist is also expected to walk into the practice knowing her music intimately.

This does not even come close to the practices required to prepare for Triduum or Christmas. Those often involve two months of preparation (remember, have to prepare all the music for those celebrations while you’re still prepping for the next Sunday Mass).

Do ushers give that much time? Not that I’ve seen. I’ve been both an usher and music minister.

 

[cheese_sdc]

Rule No. 1: “There is a God and He’s not you.”

Quoted for Truth!

 

[JoeyWarren]

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

In a parish with a serious music ministry the cantors, choir, and instrumentalists will often spend 2.5 hours practicing for every one hour in Mass.

Cantors will have extra practices and solo work, depending on their duties.

I’ve played guitar in my Parish for 10 years and EVERY week we have a 2 hour practice on a weeknight with another 30 minutes before Mass spent. The cantors are expected to walk into the “general” practice already knowing their parts (depending on the talent of the singer, as little as 30 minutes of prep or as much as two hours). Many spend their own money on vocal training (another 30 minutes a week).

The pianist is also expected to walk into the practice knowing her music intimately.

This does not even come close to the practices required to prepare for Triduum or Christmas. Those often involve two months of preparation (remember, have to prepare all the music for those celebrations while you’re still prepping for the next Sunday Mass).

Do ushers give that much time? Not that I’ve seen. I’ve been both an usher and music minister.

That is much more than I’ve seen our Cantor do before the MD took over. But then again each Parish is different.

 

[Lampo]

Our rules are hard!

 

[Eddy]

Be specific, and it has to be something your faith teaches and that you must accept to be in good standing.

If you dont have a problem with anything your faith teaches, was it always that way?

And lastly, have you ever had thoughts about starting up a new sect or religion?

Fascinating thread. Really!

Since I consider my religion to be Christianity, the thing I dislike about it is denominations. Really! And, in my experience you have to be in a denomination to be in good standing, it does prove difficult. I’ve been in a Prebyterian Church for the last 6 years. I disagree with its teaching on the Eucharist, and the fact that it’s only celebrated once a month.

I was brought up Catholic, and yes, it’s always been that way, to an extent, although initially, having come from a Catholic Church where communion was frankly treated with disregard (hands in pockets going up, chatting to the person next to you while waiting, walking straight out after receiving) I LOVED the fact that the Presbyterians had total reverence for what was going on (partly because it is only once a month), and that the minister spoke my name when offering me the cup. It was so meaningful I cried!

As for starting my own sect, well, that would break my first complaint, wouldn’t it! My friends do joke that I’ve founded the ‘non-denominationals’, in that I’m part of a group of people from widely different backgrounds who talk about out faith, support each other and pray together.

 

[Sixtus]

I don’t like how I feel that in the Catholic Church, everything is a sin, or at least it seems this way…How do we live??

I know just what you mean. It seems though, that the Church goes through cycles in exactly the same way as we go through the liturgical year.

At times it teaches that just about everything is a sin. But at others it teaches about reconciliation and healing. At the moment I keep coming accross texts which are saying the SAME thing: that it is not obedience to the law which makes us saved but faith in Jesus Christ.

That is reasurring. There is hope for the worst of us!!

 

[happygal]

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What is wrong with music? Everything in it’s proper place - right?
sassygal is obviously one of those WHO think ALL Catholics want to hear her Trumpets, Organ and Choir. WE DON’T!!

Na, i don’t think that is what she mean…she is just trying to share with others about her church that’s all and that is nothing wrong of her praising Lord is a more cheerful way

We DO NOT go to Mass to be ENTERTAINED! At my old parish they pay a “cantor - a woman with a high voice” $100 each Sunday to sing over a P.A. System for two masses.
They pay the organist $100 also. Then they pay the ushers $30 per mass.

This has caused , in my mind, competition by the female singer to sing as loud as she can to get attention and keep her job. Can you imagine walking up to receive and you glance over to the screaming singer and notice it is as she is saying, “LOOK AT ME, I AM GREAT”. Ha, Ha.

Well although i aim a Catholic , but i have not a wonderful experience when i went for my Ist Mass. The entire praise session was like individual singing at their own pace, some loud, some soft, some fast ,some slow , i was asking my ex, what are they singing, my goodness!!! I lost my joy to join them in the praise coz it is more disturbing to me. So the next round i went to another Parish, gosh the praise was so so good and angelic, you are just drawn towards the praising with the congregation!!!

I left that parish and now attend a parish that is silent during Communion. Now I can have a peaceful moment with our Lord.

If you want music - go to a concert. We go to Mass to worship and to learn more about our Lord Jesus. It is sacrilegious for a singer to overshadow a Sacrament.