Is there anything God cannot do?

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Have you not read the scriptures my friend and understood…

All things are possible through God.
Many Saints and Prophets have died in the knowledge of Gods grace.

To you and me all things are impossible.

Was it not written ( Corinthians 1:27 ) what God thinks of wisemen…& Fools.

What greater power is there than the Forgiveness of Sin & The Resurrection of the Dead.

Do you not know why yet God took pity on humans ?
 
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He created a platapus. I think He covered logical improbabilities
 
I note that many people think God (logically) can’t have a Son.
Is it possible for God to have more than one Son? Some Hindus may say that there is one God, but that God has many avatars. Can the Christian God have several avatars?
 
No. The trinity having always been. Has always consisted of the Father who through divine life of the Fathers intelligence begotten the Son although they have always existed together with the Divine Love from which the Holy Spirit exists as one God since forever. There has always been the Father, the Son and the Holy spirit, One God. GOD having always existed not created, could not create a new Son. Because then it really wouldnt be part of the trinity because the trinity is not created but has always been. Search the internet for a pdf of the Mystical City of God by Sr Mary of Jesus of Ágreda. An approved Catholic private revelation about the Hidden early life of Jesus and Mary but it has so much more.
 
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Is it possible for God to have more than one Son? Some Hindus may say that there is one God, but that God has many avatars. Can the Christian God have several avatars?
It matters not what any who believe notions which are incompatible with the Gospel think or say.
 
I find your comments very vague and hard to fathom. Could you just address the original premise? Maybe some facts would help.
  1. God can write down any future fact that He observes. He wrote the 10 Commandments in stone, proving He can write, didn’t He?.
  2. Once written down, these future facts could be read by anyone.
  3. Someone reading His prediction could do something to change slightly the events leading up to the prediction, free will after all.
  4. This could make wrong his original prediction.
  5. This proves He could not know with certainty any future event.
 
God could not possibly know a particular future happening and write it down for us to see in the present. If mankind has free will, someone could read his prediction then change things a little, guaranteeing the event He wrote down could not take place in the exact way he said it would.
Back with that old canard, eh? It’s been… what? Six months… a year… since the last time you trotted this one out?

I’d change your assertion to “God would not”. After all, why does He have to bend to your will?
 
No one has yet to show the logic is wrong. Maybe if the example was changed to this you would accept it:
John, a human wannabe prophet says he knows the future. It is a fact, he could not possibly reveal a particular future happening, that is write it down for us to see in the present. Since someone could read his prediction then change things a little, guaranteeing the event He wrote down could not take place in the exact way he said it would. Now why does this obviously good logic fail when John’s name is replaced by is replaced by God’s?
 
True, but he could take that away at any moment. It is within the power of the God of the universe to change history without any of us realizing it. Or are you suggesting God is limited in that regard?
Just read this in Catechism of Pius X yesterday

*Q.*God can neither sin nor die, how then do we say He can do all things?

A. Though He can neither sin nor die, we say God can do all things, because to be able to sin or die is not an effect of power, but of weakness which cannot exist in God who is most perfect.
 
No one has yet to show the logic is wrong. Maybe if the example was changed to this you would accept it:
John, a human wannabe prophet says he knows the future. It is a fact, he could not possibly reveal a particular future happening, that is write it down for us to see in the present. Since someone could read his prediction then change things a little, guaranteeing the event He wrote down could not take place in the exact way he said it would. Now why does this obviously good logic fail when John’s name is replaced by is replaced by God’s?
The wannabe prophet predicted that I would never reply to one of your posts at CAF. He wrote that prediction down on a piece of paper and gave it to me. (It’s in my pocket at this very moment.)
So I now (cleverly) use my free will to defeat that prophecy. HA HA!! gotcha

…but when I now take the written prophecy out of my pocket it says that I WILL respond to your post on CAF. I re-read the prophecy a second and third time. Are my eyes playing tricks?
I check my other pocket - empty. What the…?

I think back over the deliberate autonomous steps leading up to…
"So I now (cleverly) use my free will to defeat that prophecy. HA HA!! gotcha
Was it really free will? It certainly felt like free will.

I hop into a time machine and travel back to visit the prophet and see if he writes the same thing on the piece of paper in my pocket - well, it was in my pocket, but now I can’t find it. Because it hasn’t been written yet.
 
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The wannabe prophet predicted that I would never reply to one of your posts at CAF. He wrote that prediction down on a piece of paper and gave it to me.
He lied to you. The paper in your pocket proves that what he told you was not what he wrote down.
 
He is wholly outside of time (which He created)
I don’t see how God can be wholly outside of time because the following events show that God was in time at least partially:
God was observed walking in a garden.
God told Abraham to kill his son.
God wrote the ten commandments.
God became man and died on the cross.
 
Given the omnipotent nature of God, I dont think so.

But, Is there anything man cannot do?
Then, I agree 🙂
I cannot completely define God.
I cannot completely understand God
(In relationship to original post)

My limited capacity to understand will confound making complete conclusion about the person I am trying to understand, especially so for God.

Blessed to know Jesus Christ, He comes to whatever I am (in my lowly and sinful state), open my heart and my mind to Him, and bring me to His state and His nature in His time according to His will.

I am sure He freely does that for all of us too, in love and in truth. Praise God!
 
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Because man has free will and God allows that.
Irrelevant. You’re asking a question about God’s free will (to not answer the question) and asserting that He must answer a question about the future. That’s where @clarkgamble1’s proposition breaks down.
No one has yet to show the logic is wrong. Maybe if the example was changed to this you would accept it:
John, a human wannabe prophet says he knows the future. It is a fact, he could not possibly reveal a particular future happening, that is write it down for us to see in the present. Since someone could read his prediction then change things a little, guaranteeing the event He wrote down could not take place in the exact way he said it would. Now why does this obviously good logic fail when John’s name is replaced by is replaced by God’s?
The logic isn’t wrong – the event just doesn’t happen.

I could say “@clarkgamble1 walks up to a cliff. If he steps off the cliff, he will fall to his death.” And then, because of that (logical) statement, you conclude “therefore, @clarkgamble1 is dead.” See the problem there? Although the statement is logical, it doesn’t imply that it actually happens. You have the ability to say “nope; not gonna do it.” Same with God. “No thanks, Clark… not gonna play your game.”

You’re frustrated, but God’s omniscience is still intact. 😉
 
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Gorgias:
why does He have to bend to your will?
Because man has free will and God allows that.
God has given to NO ONE Libertarian free will not even to you AINg.

Only God has Libertarian free will no one else.
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St. Thomas (C. G., II, xxviii) if God’s purpose were made dependent on the foreseen free act of any creature, God would thereby sacrifice His own freedom, and would submit Himself to His creatures, thus abdicating His essential supremacy–a thing which is, of course, utterly inconceivable.

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Libertarian free will would be useless for us.

The Council of Sens (1140) condemned the idea that free will is sufficient in itself for any good. Donez., 373.

Council of Orange (529)
In canon 20, entitled hat Without God Man Can Do No Good. . . Denz., 193; quoting St. Prosper.

In canon 22, says, “ No one has anything of his own except lying and sin. Denz., 194; quoting St. Prosper.
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CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Divine Providence explains;
Life everlasting promised to us, (Romans 5:21); but unaided we can do nothing to gain it (Rom.7:18-24).

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GOD HAS GIVEN US AIDED FREE WILL AS FOLLOWS

Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma by Ludwig Ott;

For every salutary act internal supernatural grace of God (gratia elevans) is absolutely necessary, (De fide).
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Fallen man cannot redeem himself, (De fide). – It is God’s responsibility to save ALL OF US.
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Without the special help of God the justified cannot persevere to the end in justification, (De fide). – It is God’s responsibility TO KEEP US SAVED by His grace of Final Perseverance.
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There is a supernatural intervention of God in the faculties of the soul, which precedes the free act of the will, (De fide).
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CCC 308 For God is at work in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.
Far from diminishing the creature’s dignity, this truth enhances it.
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Aquinas said, "God changes the will without forcing it . But he can change the will from the fact that he himself operates in the will as he does in nature,” De Veritatis 22:9. 31. ST I-II:112:3. 32. Gaudium et Spes 22; "being …
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St. Thomas teaches that all movements of will and choice must be traced to the divine will: and not to any other cause, because Gad alone is the cause of our willing and choosing. CG, 3.91.
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CCC 2022; The divine initiative in the work of grace precedes, prepares, and elicits the free response of man.
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The above teachings of the Church explains our Aided Free wills.
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As we see above, God is the CREATOR, CAUSER/ DETERMINER of our Aided Free wills, and we all freely will and freely choose what God wills us to will and God wills us to choose.
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God Designed, Decreed, Foreordained from all eternity all our free actions and He orders all our free actions. – CCC 307, CCC 308, Ez.36:27, Eph.2:10, etc.
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God bless
 
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This is like the question: Can God create a rock he cannot lift?

No. The God of the Bible is incapable of numerous things. Essentially, all of these things are summed up in [2 Timothy 2:13] which states that God “cannot deny Himself”.

The God of scripture is a logical God, which is the only reason why the laws of logic, such as the law of non-contradiction, can be trusted to be universal and invariant. For worldviews that do not believe in a logical God who “cannot deny Himself”, for example, there is absolutely no basis for believing that the laws of logic are invariant and universal.
 
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