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EndTimes
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Is there anything God cannot do?
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Are there things which God would not do. Such as LIE
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Are there things which God would not do. Such as LIE
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AlNg
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Not sure. For example, did God, in the person of Jesus, say that we should cut out our eye if it causes us to sin. With all the beautiful women around, it is difficult for some of us not to commit a mortal sin of lust occasionally. Should we then pluck out our eyes and go blind?
Matthew 5: 29
Matthew 18: 9
Also if you hand causes you to sin, then cut it off.
God in the person of Jesus, did say these things, but are they true? Or is it a lie and we should not really pluck out our eyes or cut off our hands?
Similarly with hating your father and mother?
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Gorgias
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It’s hyperbole.
In archaic speech, “hate” means “love less”. So, I really like pizza, but I really really like sushi. In that context, “I love sushi and I hate pizza.”
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AlNg
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Is it OK to mislead people with hyperbole?
JohnStrachan
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So God could sin?
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LovelyLadybug
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God can’t sin.
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Gorgias
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Who says Jesus misled people?
Or are you saying that, since some people misunderstand Jesus, it’s his fault that they do?
Strawman on top of strawman.
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AlNg
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I am saying that hyperbole can be misleading. Take for example the commandment that if your hand causes you to sin, then cut it off. You say that is hyperbole. But apparently others, such as in Saudi Arabia, do not think so. If it is hyperbole, as you claim it is, then people in Saudi Arabia have been misled since they have, at least in the past, cut off the hands of people accused of theft. Is it OK to mislead people?
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Catfinger77
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Sin. Probably a duplicate answer.
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Gorgias
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Umm… you’re talking about Islamic law. I’m pretty sure that they’re following Mohammad, not Christ.
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AlNg
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Did you know that
“The Quran mentions the Torah, the Zabur (“Psalms”) and the Injil (“Gospel”) as being revealed by God to the prophets Moses, David and Jesus respectively in the same way the Quran was revealed to Muhammad, the final prophet and messenger of God according to Muslims.”
See Islamic view of the Bible in wikipedia.
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Gorgias
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Yep. But, AFAIK, the secular laws in historically Muslim countries – which call for (among other things) the cutting off of hands of thieves, and such – don’t proceed from the passage you’re trying to blame. If anything, you might be able to make a case for the “an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth” prescription of the Mosaic law, which was not “hyperbole”.
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EndTimes
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That’s in no way or manner a LIE…
It takes some understanding to plumb its depth.
Do you believe that a Planet whereby Everyone truly Loved one another - don’t sound too shabby?
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EndTimes
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God… lacks evil…
To the OP Is there anything God cannot do?
It suffices to accept that “Nothing is impossible with God”
IF even for the sake of never remaining in one spot - aka “hung up” - for too long…
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AlNg
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Some people will think of a lie as using speech to mislead. Do you think it would be misleading to tell someone that they should hate their mother and father when you don’t really mean such? Or that they should cut off their hand if their hand causes them to sin but you don’t really mean for them to do so? Couldn’t some people misconstrue that and say it is OK to cut off the hand of a thief as they have done in some countries?
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EndTimes
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Even this following translational rendition must be properly understood in context
You cannot be my disciple, unless you love me more than you love
your father and mother , your wife and children, and your brothers and sisters.
In other words - if anyone is nudging you to be or do anything in disobedience to God?
You cannot agree with them: even if it is father and/or mother
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AlNg
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Here are some versions authorised by the Roman Catholic Church:
Luke 14:26 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.The Douay was translated under the approval and guidelines of the Catholic Church itself. It is based on the Latin Vulgate,
Luke 14:26 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)
26 “Whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and even life itself, cannot be my disciple.The New Revised Standard Version , Catholic Edition ( NRSV -CE) is a translation of the Bible closely based on the New Revised Standard Version ( NRSV ) but including the deuterocanonical books and adapted for the use of Catholics with the approval of the Catholic Church.
Luke 14:26 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
26 “If any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.[a]Luke 14:26 New American Bible (Revised Edition) (NABRE)
26 “If any one comes to me without hating his father[a] and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__PWX.HTM
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I prefer this … for it more easily lends itself to come to understand its intended meaning
- You cannot be my disciple, unless you love me more than you love your father and mother , your wife and children, and your brothers and sisters.
You cannot agree with them: even if it is father and/or mother
AnyThing Else?
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