Is there anything [moral] that you disagree with the Pope on?

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Not consciously. If I find out the Pope (aka the Church) has a view that conflicts with mine, I will adjust my views accordingly.
 
If there is, I better try to figure out where I went wrong:D
 
Nope, not me. I would follow our fealess leader to the grave if God willed it. 🙂

He’s my earthly leader!
 
I disagree with the Holy Father’s not-have-‘talk-like-an-Englishman-Fridays’ stance.

But the morality of the issue is variously debated by hot scholars.

Wait, reverse that.
 
Nope. That’s called being Catholic. If you disagree (protest) the morals of the Church, you are a Protestant.

So simple - never will understand why folks don’t get this. :rolleyes:

~Liza
 
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Nope. That’s called being Catholic. If you disagree (protest) the morals of the Church, you are a Protestant.

So simple - never will understand why folks don’t get this. :rolleyes:

~Liza
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Ah well I’m from UK and I thought it was all about the great schism and then Henry VIII doing the whole C of E thing. But that makes sense
 
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Ah well I’m from UK and I thought it was all about the great schism and then Henry VIII doing the whole C of E thing. But that makes sense
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When you get down to it, Henry VIII was protesting the moral teachings of the Church on marriage and divorce.

The Eastern Orthodox are not considered Protestants.
 
Yes, but I would never say what it is openly here.

When I disagree I keep my doubts private or I may discuss it privately with my spiritual director but not openly. I will defend the Church’s stand, and when I do disagree, attempt to configure my life to the teaching I disagree with, in humble obedience.

But I do not think it is either wrong, nor does it make you un-Catholic, to harbor private doubts.

I fact I think it is probably healthy, God after all gave us a mind and the power of reason. Better that you eventually reason your way to agreement, than just blindly accept every teaching as if God were master and you were dog. So that may mean for a time of discernment yes, one will be in disagreement on this or that topic. God wants you to come to Him of your own free will, with love in your heart, not because you’re his slave.
 
Not that I know of. He is Catholic, as am I, and the teachings of the Catholic Church have been known to me and pretty much everybody else for a long time. It’s not like he’s thinking up new moral edicts every week. He never calls me, or my pastor, --or even my bishop that I know of. Maybe the bishop gets a call every 3 years or so.
 
Yes, a few things, but you don’t have to agree with everything to be Catholic. In fact, the CC considers you a Catholic (whether you want to be or not) by default.
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But I do not think it is either wrong, nor does it make you un-Catholic, to harbor private doubts.
I fact I think it is probably healthy, God after all gave us a mind and the power of reason. Better that you eventually reason your way to agreement, than just blindly accept every teaching as if God were master and you were dog. So that may mean for a time of discernment yes, one will be in disagreement on this or that topic. God wants you to come to Him of your own free will, with love in your heart, not because you’re his slave.
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I agree with most of that. I’d make the following change in the above statement for me though: “…than just blindly accepting everything as if the Church were master and you were dog”.

The other change is that IRL I mostly keep my doubts or opinions to myself. I do discuss my differing opinions here because we’re all Catholic and if there’s any place to discuss, I thought it would be here 🤷

Frankly I don’t know anyone IRL that agrees with everything the Pope says.
 
There’s a difference, I think, between having doubts or not understanding the reasoning behind a particular belief, and disagreeing with the Church. Disagreement entails taking a position contrary to that of another. I don’t see how a Catholic can justifiably take a stance in opposition to the Church’s, regarding an issue on which it claims to be authoritative. Now, I very much suspect none of us will come to understand each of the Church’s stances and can say that we have no doubts. But to take a stance in conflict with the Church–aka disagreeing–seems unjustifiable.

For example, I cannot see how someone can be Catholic and pro-choice, or pro-gay marriage, or pro-contraception. In essence, such a person is saying “I believe the Church is Christ, and has the authority to speak for Him. I realize the Church says that contraception is wrong. However, I think contraception is okay. Therefore, I believe Christ, God Himself, the Creator of the Universe, is wrong about contraception.” This is different from “I don’t see how or why contraception is wrong, but I accept the Church’s stance as the correct one.”

Such a person–a Catholic who is pro-choice or whatnot–either disagrees that the Church is really Christ, or isn’t really pro-choice.

I don’t wish to offend anyone, but I simply don’t see any other way of looking at this.
 
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