Is there hope for me even though I am not Roman Catholic?

[whatisthetruth]

Hi WhatistheTruth -

Hi Philthy, I am so sorry

first it was Calm, now you. I didnt not ignore you intentionally.

Lets see if I can address your concerns. I will take them in reverse order ok?

lets start here,

Did you miss this post from page 18? I especially wanted an answer to the last question…

**Can I ask you a question? When (as in what year) were you born again? **

I am glad you asked

I was born again 11-14-99
I was baptized by immersion 12-31-99, our New Years Eve night service.

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**Which, when you think about it, makes one wonder why you really started a thread titled"Is there hope for me…?" when, in fact, you dont actually question whether there is hope for you - you are certain of it. **

Yes I am certain of my salvation.

I posted out of curiousity of what Catholics believed.
As a former Catholic I always believed if one was not Catholic there was no hope for that person. I found out from this thread some still believe that today.
I received a number of PM telling me there was NO HOPE that I better consider returning to the Catholic church…

I mean once you are certain of it - and it doesnt get any surer than “God told me so” - how can you possibly come to dialogue genuinely looking for answers? You already have the answer you seek. Correct?

Wrong. I still do not have a clear sense if the Catholic teaching says I am doomed or not.

Some Catholics say I have hope some say I am destined for hell if I do not return to the Catholic church

**And while we are being honest, the particular wording that you use as your personal revelation from God of " if I should die right now…" is something I’ve heard from about a hundred people before and that takes away some of its luster. Im telling you this not to discourage you, but just so you can appreciate my perspective. **

I have no doubt in your honesty.
and the thing is, I believe the luster has been taken away from God’s wonderful gift because of the fact that thier are Christians who misunderstand what I believe God’s promise of salvation is.

That is why I believe a number of Catholics place us “protestants”
under the “once saved always saved” misunderstood umbrella.

Philthy, I believe you were one of the people who said to me that God has a plan for me being here. I want to thank you for that.

Because, just recently I came across a thread by VARC which I no doubt God led me to.

I posted in the thread because VARC’s OP went right to my heart. I am sorry for the length. I even referred another post for a prayer I said related to the subject at hand.

Philthy and all who read my post, I believe that the TIME IS NOW

Here is my post, and you will know what I mean
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=3270528&postcount=53

You’re a right brained, **touchy feely type **- I tend to be more left brained and am more logical/analytical. You are a little less concerned with and/or capable of articulating yourself precisely. I dont think you are being dishonest - you simply didnt - and dont - realize how your comments are sometimes loose and unclear.

Sorry I try to be more careful, however thank you for the compliments, Iam emotional, I cry easy especially tear jerker movies

That can make them appear to be purposely evasive, when in fact, you simply didnt realize all the ambiguities created by your wording. I’ll stop talking now because I can tell Im overanalyzing and you probably couldnt care less!

Philthy, now why on earth would you say that I couldnt care less.
Ohh I know you were just kidding that is it right?? .

Philthy, I appreciated talking with you the first time I met you.
I care about you just as much a I care about anyone else.
I admire your faith and dedication.

IF I were God, I give you the keys to heaven, but I am not God.

Lets keep this going.

I feel something going on here.

I can not explain it. But something is simmering.

God bless,

let me get caught up with your other posts.

 

[whatisthetruth]

H philthy,

whatisthetruth
Apparently God Told you a differnt meaning than He told me, as to why only God knows.

YOU…
God has told me nothing about you.

I believe we misunderstood eachother here.

What I meant is God has told me in my heart, from His word, I can have assurance about salvation.

I was wondering why He has not told you the same

ME
From John 3:16 God told me, He loved me so much that He gave me two gifts,
1st gift Jesus
and that if I believe in Him (Jesus), I should not perish (saved from hell)

YOU
Just out of curiosity, what does the “should not” mean in this first gift? How is the “should not perish” reconciled with the “absolute assurance” of salvation?

Without Jesus’ forgiving grace, all sinners, that is all of us, would go to hell.

God does not want to punish us, that is why He GAVE us JESUS.

So whoever believes IN Him should not, will not, perish

if we do not perish in hell there is only one other option…:heaven:

ME:
and since He loved me so much He gives me His
2nd gift eternal life in heaven.

YOU
Again, just out of curiosity, is eternal life here talking about Heaven?

I believe it is

YOU
Do we not experience eternal life now as well?

Yes and no.
No …our physical bodies will die.

Yes…Our spirit lives today and for eternity.

ME
of course there is a commitment of faith which goes along with that as told in the bible.

YOU
Which, of course, changes everything! We still have a life to live, a race to run, and we need to “persevere to the end”. But I can still see where it is comforting to have assurance that if you died right now youd go to Heaven. It’s basically stating that, “Hey - God tells me Im in a state of grace!”

Only after sincerly confessing and repenting, and God knows ones heart and intention.

After you go to confession with sincerity and repent, confess and say your penance to God, I believe right there you are in the same state of grace too

You are one Christian who I do not believe would ever think about taking for granted God’s wonderful gift of salvation.

YOU
like substituting your name into a Scripture verse and pretending that that is “God speaking” to you.

ME
And why not plug names into scripture?.

YOU
I said substitute a name AND pretend that it is “God speaking” to you. And one reason is because we are trying to have a genuine conversation about assurance of salvation, where we actually understand each other, and not simply an exchange of ideas about what you think is a spiritually enriching exercise. Right?

I am not quite sure I understand what you are asking.
I will say this,

I read the bible as if the cover of the bible said

To whatisthetruth
Love, God

Some verses, words, stories may “jump of the page” and right into my heart. Some may not.

I may read one verse one day and get a message from God.

and at some time later, read the exact same verse and get a totally different message.

I am glad you enjoyed Father’s Love Letter.

YOU
I enjoyed this - thanks.

You are most welcome

I believe you have a sense what I am talking about.
Is that the first time you saw Father’s Love Letter?

ME:
Isn’t God’s word, the bible, personal.
When I read John 3:16, aren’t I part of the world to which God is referring? When I read the bible, I change all the you’s and your’s in the bible to me’s and I. When one does that, the message of God’s word can not help but become personal. And I do not believe I am doing anything against God’s will.

YOU

I dont think you are either. It has nothing to do with this thread, however.

You right. But discussion has opened up to many areas and we are learning a lot about each other.

Nothing wrong with that, right??

God bless

truth

 

[whatisthetruth]

Hi again Philthy,

YOU

Im only sure that you stated in prior posts that your assurance was based upon God’s promises in Scripture (and not on personal revelation.) Are you claiming you had a private revelation where God revealed your eternal destiny or not?

I here the “soft voice” of God/Holy Spirit comfirming what is already written in scripture. I mention this also to Calm…

ME

I stated I am 100% sure of my salvation based on the word of God should I die right now.

YOU

Whatis - please notice your continued reluctance to use affirmative language (yes or no) in answering questions! I purposely did all the work in the question and all you have to do is answer “Yes, I had a private revelation”, or “No, I did not have a private revelation”. You continue to attempt to blend “personal interpretation of God’s word” and “private revelation directly from God” as if they were synonymous. Why?

Simply put, I believe we might be saying the same thing, however expressing it 2 different ways.

YOU

Correct - your assurance is based upon your interpretation of Scripture (ie “word of God”). You have also stated that you are not infallible in your interpretation of Scripture. Therefore, your assurance is based on your fallible interpretation of Scripture and not on personal revelation. Where am I not stating facts?

I can assure you it was a misunderstanding. I am quite sure everything you state you believe is fact. we all do.

However…, but…, what if… you know what I mean…

BTW the terms faliable and infalliable I do not like.

ME
The reason why I am saying that God promised me is because it is in Scripture and He comfirmed for me what He meant.

YOU

Is this why you keep referencing John 3:16?

It is on of my favorite verses of God’s promise to give us eternal life.

ME

Conclusion,
If I said to you, in order for me to repair my car, I not only read the owner’s manual, but I also had a private conversation with the owner to help me interpret the words in the owner’s manual,
would I be lying to you? I believe you know what I mean now.
If not ask

I actually didnt follow a single point of what you meant here! But thats OK…

Sorry I tried, but if you want it to pass, I am for it:thumbsup:

Blessings.

 

[Philthy]

Hi Philthy, I am so sorry

No problem…you have been busy busy busy!

I posted out of curiousity of what Catholics believed.

 

[whatisthetruth]

When you say you were a Catholic who believed that the Pope is God, you prove that you were a “Catholic” in name only.

**Do you actually think that being a Catholic is merely being born **into a Catholic family, or calling yourself a Catholic without actually believing the REAL doctrines of the Church?

Absolutely not,

no more than “if I park my bike in a Garage, my bike turns to an automobile.”

My pastor loves to use that one

of course a person has to live the faith…

 

[Philthy]

I believe we misunderstood eachother here.

What I meant is God has told me in my heart, from His word, I can have assurance about salvation.

I was wondering why He has not told you the same

 

[jmcrae]

Without Jesus’ forgiving grace, all sinners, that is all of us, would go to hell.

God does not want to punish us, that is why He GAVE us JESUS.

So whoever believes IN Him should not, will not, perish

if we do not perish in hell there is only one other option…:heaven:

There is a vast difference between “do not” and “should not.” For example, if I say, “Little children should not play near a busy road,” everyone will nod and say, “Yes, yes, that is correct,” but will that prevent little children from playing near the busy road?

Not at all - rather, it is the adults, knowing that the children should not play near a busy road, who will jump up and run get them away from the road, should they happen to do so. (Little children know nothing about busy roads; they are too busy with their play to notice such things. So, it is up to the adults to protect them.)

Likewise, when Jesus says, “Whoever believes in Me should not perish,” He is not saying that they will not - only that they should take great care, since it would not be fitting for them to sin (perish) after coming to believe in Him.

I read the bible as if the cover of the bible said

To whatisthetruth
Love, God

You realize, though, that it does not, right? It is a love letter to His Bride the Church; not to random individuals. Jesus is not “your personal” (or anybody’s “personal”) Saviour - He is the Saviour of the Church. If you are in the Church, whether visibly, by being a member in good standing, or invisibly by being ignorant of the fact that you must be a member of the Church (which is what is being saved) but would want to be if you had only known of it, then you are saved; if not, then no.

 

[Pwrlftr]

You realize, though, that it does not, right? It is a love letter to His Bride the Church; not to random individuals. Jesus is not “your personal” (or anybody’s “personal”) Saviour - He is the Saviour of the Church. If you are in the Church, whether visibly, by being a member in good standing, or invisibly by being ignorant of the fact that you must be a member of the Church (which is what is being saved) but would want to be if you had only known of it, then you are saved; if not, then no.

There probably isn’t a way to answer this question but I will ask anyway. What exactly would constitute ignorance?

I know you guys (Catholics) say that your Church is true but I don’t believe you and see no reason to. Does that make me culpable for my rejection of your church?

 

[jmcrae]

There probably isn’t a way to answer this question but I will ask anyway. What exactly would constitute ignorance?

Invincible ignorance is the lack of capacity to know something - where there is literally something missing in your psyche or in your environment, and it is simply not possible for you to learn the thing.

I know you guys (Catholics) say that your Church is true but I don’t believe you and see no reason to. Does that make me culpable for my rejection of your church?

I have absolutely no way of knowing; it depends on whether you are inwardly capable of knowing this information - outwardly, the information is more than available to you; you have all the resources you need right at your fingertips, right now.

But if you are inwardly unable to comprehend it, for whatever reason (profound lack of intellectual capacity, insurmountable emotional barriers of prejudice, etc.) then it does you no good.

However, if you have the capacity to say, “I am invincibly ignorant of the Catholic Church,” and are able to understand what it means, to say that, then you in fact don’t have invincible ignorance, and you gain a requirement from God to join visibly with Christ’s Church.

 

[Pwrlftr]

Invincible ignorance is the lack of capacity to know something - where there is literally something missing in your psyche or in your environment, and it is simply not possible for you to learn the thing.

I have absolutely no way of knowing; it depends on whether you are inwardly capable of knowing this information - outwardly, the information is more than available to you; you have all the resources you need right at your fingertips, right now.

But if you are inwardly unable to comprehend it, for whatever reason (profound lack of intellectual capacity, insurmountable emotional barriers of prejudice, etc.) then it does you no good.

However, if you have the capacity to say, “I am invincibly ignorant of the Catholic Church,” and are able to understand what it means, to say that, then you in fact don’t have invincible ignorance, and you gain a requirement from God to join visibly with Christ’s Church.

That was a pretty decent answer.

 

[whatisthetruth]

CalmDownWisWins

What do you think you mean when you say you’re “Prepared for heaven”?

As you know, I believe I have assurance if I die right now. If I should step off the curve when I am walking my dog and an out of control car blindsides me and kills me right there, I believe i was prepared for the “sudden call to come home”

I illustrated this in my military scenario, which by the way is true I am a proud veteran of 21 years.

let me say again. Every day of my life I am being transformed little by little into the image God designed me to be.

Until I become that image, I will never be worthy to reign in the kingdom of GOD. But thank God for His love and saving power that this one unworthy soul is forgiven, by faith, through the blood of Jesus Christ and so are a lot of my new found friens brothers and sisters in Christ at CAF.

Since we can never be **prepared **to be worthy, but only **hopeful **that we will choose to accept heaven by developing a character which is in the habit of choosing God over self, what do you mean my being “prepared” if not “having developed your character to habitually accept God”?

Explained above

You (Whatis) said this:
As you are being transformed by God along your spiritual day to day journey with Him in preparation for the day he calls you home,

Are you prepared should that call come right now?

Absolutely.

Consider this.

God only knows ones heart, correct??

God knows if anyone is hiding any sin when they go to confession, correct?

I hope you said yes to above 2

Now consider this,

you go to confession.
you say an act of contrition and repent and confess your sin/s through your priest before God
your priest give you penance
you pray your penance
you say “Amen”

Right there after saying “Amen”,
don’t you feel prepared should God call you right there at the altar?
(you do not even have a chance to get up off your knees)

I am waiting for the first Catholic to tell me something I never felt as a Catholic. I never thought about dying because I was young.
So I never fully absorbed the grace He wanted to give me.

CalmDownWisWins I know you do not believe this, but I believe if a sinner says a sincere confession before God and repents, and again ONLY God knows ones heart, He will honor His word and forgive and forget the sin just as if the sin was never commit.
This is why I believe His grace is so AMAZING

I can understand not being 100% sure of eternal life in heaven should you die now. I do not know your life or the last time you been to confession.

However, I am confused

If I were to come back to Catholic church, If there was anytime
I would feel completely forgiven by the grace of God is at that point immediately following my confession, repentance and penance.

If I did not feel that or be able to take joy in my salvation at that point, then there must be a unconfessed sin I am trying to hide from God.

Your use of the word “prepared” above is a past/present perfect use, which just means that you are asking if I’m NOW COMPLETELY PREPARED (having in my possession thorough preparation) for my destiny (hopefull heaven).

If that is the question you meant to ask, then I respond that NO ONE is PREPARED for death so as to KNOW that they are “assured” heaven because there is no way to be “completely prepared”.

One can certainly “prepare” one’s-self to get their bought-and-paid-for reward, by putting on our “Sunday best” and having our acceptance speech memorized and practiced, and having the vaseline on the teeth so that the grateful smile doesn’t stick,…

…but to be “prepared” as opposed to being “preparing” is an impossibility, and the attitude of “being prepared” in the perfect-tense is grounds for admittance to hell.

I believe we are saying the same thing in 2 different ways.
Please ask me again If you have any question based on my response above.

Now, to answer the question that you SHOULD have asked:

Am I **preparing **for my moment of decision to choose God? Not nearly as well as I should be, and I’d REALLY better do better at it!

I believe we all need to be closer to God and his ways, Thanks for your honesty.

blessings

 

[jmcrae]

Now consider this,

you go to confession.
you say an act of contrition and repent and confess your sin/s through your priest before God
your priest give you penance
you pray your penance
you say “Amen”

Right there after saying “Amen”,
don’t you feel prepared should God call you right there at the altar?
(you do not even have a chance to get up off your knees)

In my case, I would still go to Purgatory, because I committed many sins when I was young, and I still have many wounds in my soul from the damages I did to myself and my relationships with other people, because of those sins.

If I were to come back to Catholic church, If there was anytime
I would feel completely forgiven by the grace of God is at that point immediately following my confession, repentance and penance.

If I did not feel that or be able to take joy in my salvation at that point, then there must be a unconfessed sin I am trying to hide from God.

Or, you know of a wound in your soul that has yet to be healed - a friendship that remains broken because of something you did to someone when you were young, or a lack of the full maturity that should be there, because of a good deed that you neglected to do.

 

[uglygal]

they don’t know - some will say there is, whilst other ultra-traditionalists will say you are damned and hellbound

 

[Namesake]

they don’t know - some will say there is, whilst other ultra-traditionalists will say you are damned and hellbound

If you could provide context for your posts it would then be possible to understand just what the heck you are talking about.

 

[inchrist101]

There is a vast difference between “do not” and “should not.” For example, if I say, “Little children should not play near a busy road,” everyone will nod and say, “Yes, yes, that is correct,” but will that prevent little children from playing near the busy road?

Absolutely not. They will do the same if you tell them not touch a hot stove either.

Not at all - rather, it is the adults, knowing that the children should not play near a busy road, who will jump up and run get them away from the road, should they happen to do so. (Little children know nothing about busy roads; they are too busy with their play to notice such things. So, it is up to the adults to protect them.)

Yes that is why you could say our children are under our grace so to speak. We watch their back when they don’t even know it. They can make us sad at times but we will still rise up to protect them.

Likewise, when Jesus says, “Whoever believes in Me should not perish,” He is not saying that they will not - only that they should take great care, since it would not be fitting for them to sin (perish) after coming to believe in Him.

I see what you are saying which is why Paul states this:

Romans 6:1 Well then, should we keep on sinning so that God can show us more and more of his wonderful grace? 2 Of course not! Since we have died to sin, how can we continue to live in it? 3 Or have you forgotten that when we were joined with Christ Jesus in baptism, we joined him in his death? 4 For we died and were buried with Christ by baptism. And just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glorious power of the Father, now we also may live new lives.

But Paul understood that we also would continue to commit sin which is why he states the following:

Romans 7:14 So the trouble is not with the law, for it is spiritual and good. The trouble is with me, for I am all too human, a slave to sin.

Romans 7: 21 I have discovered this principle of life—that when I want to do what is right, I inevitably do what is wrong. 22 I love God’s law with all my heart. 23 But there is another power[e] within me that is at war with my mind. This power makes me a slave to the sin that is still within me. 24Oh, what a miserable person I am! Who will free me from this life that is dominated by sin and death? 25 Thank God! The answer is in Jesus Christ our Lord.

You do understand that you WILL continue to sin correct?? This is why Jesus was and is the perfect sacrifice.

You realize, though, that it does not, right? It is a love letter to His Bride the Church; not to random individuals. Jesus is not “your personal” (or anybody’s “personal”) Saviour - He is the Saviour of the Church. If you are in the Church, whether visibly, by being a member in good standing, or invisibly by being ignorant of the fact that you must be a member of the Church (which is what is being saved) but would want to be if you had only known of it, then you are saved; if not, then no.

This really is confusing. You’re saying if I’m a visible member or an invisible member, I’m saved. How can I be an invisible member of the church if I’m ignorant to it’s existence. Let alone be saved.

Also when did Jesus not become our personal savior?? I would agree that HE’s not just MY personal Savior. He’s yours as well, and anyone who believes as Paul so candidly states:

Romans1: 16 For **I **am not ashamed of this Good News about Christ. It is the power of God at work, saving everyone who believes—the Jew first and also the Gentile.[g] 17 This Good News tells us how God makes us right in his sight. This is accomplished from start to finish by faith. As the Scriptures say, “It is through faith that a righteous person has life.”

Just like Paul I’m not ashamed by the Good News about Christ. I’m pretty humbled by it and accept it as my Faith. This is why I’m saved hence Jesus is my personal savior. Accepting him as my savior makes me a part of his church. All believers in Christ make up HIS Church/Bride. The church is not separate from believers in Christ. They are one in the same. Are you suggesting that if we are outside the Roman Catholic church we are not saved?? Not being rude just trying to understand.

One last point. The Bible is not a love letter from GOD to the church. The Bible is a love letter (using the terminology from the thread) from GOD to whoever picks it up and reads it. An atheist can pick up the Bible and read it. Are you suggesting that GOD only wants the church to read it? How ridiculous is that Brother?? If an Atheist or anyone (believer/non-believer) picks up the Bible, reads it, and then truly finds GOD and Jesus or, becomes closer to GOD and Jesus, then it might as well say

**To: **(insert name of reader)
Love GOD. I’m glad you found ME or got closer to ME.

The Bible is for everyone not just the Church. As a matter of fact you could say the Bible is even more important for the lost than the saved. Not that the saved don’t need it. They already know that. But the lost don’t.

PEACE Brother and GOD Bless.

 

[jmcrae]

You do understand that you WILL continue to sin correct?? This is why Jesus was and is the perfect sacrifice.

I am under grace, now. Because of what Christ did for me, I have been given back my free will, and I can now make a choice not to sin.

This really is confusing. You’re saying if I’m a visible member or an invisible member, I’m saved. How can I be an invisible member of the church if I’m ignorant to it’s existence. Let alone be saved.

If you would have been a member, had you known of its existence (but for some reason you didn’t know) then you can still be saved, “as if” you had been a member of the Church.

Outside the Church there is no salvation, because to be outside the Church is to be outside of Christ.

One last point. The Bible is not a love letter from GOD to the church. The Bible is a love letter (using the terminology from the thread) from GOD to whoever picks it up and reads it. An atheist can pick up the Bible and read it. Are you suggesting that GOD only wants the church to read it? How ridiculous is that Brother?? If an Atheist or anyone (believer/non-believer) picks up the Bible, reads it, and then truly finds GOD and Jesus or, becomes closer to GOD and Jesus, then it might as well say

**To: **(insert name of reader)
Love GOD. I’m glad you found ME or got closer to ME.

Are you saying that just by reading the Bible an atheist gets saved, or that Christ’s words apply to him? I don’t think so; he would have to convert, first.

The Bible was not written for unbelievers; it was written for believers, to explain to them in more detail the things they were learning about Jesus from the Church.

 

[inchrist101]

I am under grace, now. Because of what Christ did for me, I have been given back my free will, and I can now make a choice not to sin.

We’ve always been under Grace. You’ve always had free will. It’s by Grace that we have Jesus. Grace has existed since Jesus died on the cross. I think you’re a little younger than that.

So are you telling me the only time you sin then is unintentionally?? You commit no intentional sins?? If you answer yes to that, I’d say you were lying. No judgement intended. But you would in fact be lying which of course is a sin.

If you would have been a member, had you known of its existence (but for some reason you didn’t know) then you can still be saved, “as if” you had been a member of the Church.

Outside the Church there is no salvation, because to be outside the Church is to be outside of Christ.

Brother you don’t even know your own doctrines. The Roman Catholic Church does not hold the belief that non-Roman Catholics have no salvation. Read your catechisms. We are separated bretheren in an “imperfect” I believe the word is communion with Rome.

convert,

first.

I love how this always gets twisted. Just like when Roman Catholics say “does it mean then that because demons or satan confess Jesus is the Christ they are saved too?” What a pointless question. Your response just shows that you merely glanced over my response without really reading what I had to say. Had you done that you would realize that I never implied that nor do I believe it. I made the point that a non-believer potentially after reading the Bible may decide to get saved. That’s why I said it’s not just for the Church. It’s for both believer and non-believer.

The Bible was not written for unbelievers; it was written for believers, to explain to them in more detail the things they were learning about Jesus from the Church.

You are living and thinking in such a vacuum my Brother. Did Jesus come here for the believers? NO. Let me repeat. NO!!! The believers were upset that Jesus ate with the tax collectors to which he replied does a healthy person need a Doctor. I came for the sick. The unbelievers!!! The same thing applies to the Bible.

Let me ask you this. I don’t know your name so I’ll use your screen name.

Let’s say an atheist comes to you and says “Excuse me Mr. JMCRAE, I’ve never read the Bible and I’m an atheist. I see you have a copy. I’m really interested in meeting this GOD of the Bible and Jesus his son. May I please read your copy and then ask for your help in the areas I don’t understand.??”

Tell me Brother and please don’t fail GOD on this answer. Please tell me you would not only lend it to him but you would say “Here you take it. I’ll get another. And by the way, I’ll take as much time with you as needed, even if it takes all night.”

Or would you say “Sorry, this Bible you see, is only for current believers of the church. And it’s sole purpose is to explain to them in more detail the things they were learning about Jesus from the Church.”

JMCRAE my Brother in Christ, we’ve been given the great commission which started with our Brothers the Apostles. To make disciples, baptising them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. To save the lost while edifying the saved. If the Bible would in any way help with this. Then why would you not use the most powerful words that are in your possession?

PEACE and GOD Bless!!!

 

[inchrist101]

JMCRAE I must sincerely apologize. I’ve been refering to you as Mr. and Brother not realizing you are Mrs. and Sister. Please excuse my extreme ignorance on this.

To my Sister in Christ from your Brother in Christ.

PEACE and GOD Bless!!!

 

[whatisthetruth]

Hi jmcrae

Thank you so much for responding. I am so glad you did.

whatisthetruth

Now consider this,
you pray your penance
you say “Amen”
Right there after saying “Amen”,
don’t you feel prepared should God call you right there at the altar?

YOU

In my case, I would still go to Purgatory, because I committed many sins when I was young, and I still have many wounds in my soul from the damages I did to myself and my relationships with other people, because of those sins.

ME

If I did not feel that or be able to take joy in my salvation at that point, then there must be a unconfessed sin I am trying to hide from God.

YOU

Or, you know of a wound in your soul that has yet to be healed - a friendship that remains broken because of something you did to someone when you were young, or a lack of the full maturity that should be there, because of a good deed that you neglected to do.

jmcrae what you just said applied to me in my past and I sense what you just said haunts you like it haunted me. I do not know your circumstance but I sense your pain.

I thank you so much for your candidness.
I ask you to trust me in saying I been there, dealing with and having former wounds which haunted me too.

Jmcrae, I do not know if you ever heard this before but it is on my heart to share it with you.

Just imagine for a moment being there at the foot of the cross of Jesus as He was being crucified.

I believe in my heart of hearts that every ounce of His precious blood He shed washed away all your sins when you present before Him your sincere, repentant and sorrowful heart,
which I have no doubt you do have.

Also, I believe that not only were your sins forgiven by His blood, but by His body being tortured and beaten and “broken”, your “brokeness” in your body is made whole.

I am being quite sincere right know. My prayer is that you believe that. I believe there is a devine reason you shared your past with me. This my friend is Christianity.

God says,

Therefore if any man be in Christ, she is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
2 Corinthians 5:17

jmcrae look at your signature,

For life is to be with Christ; where Christ is, there is life, there is the kingdom.

I believe Satan wants you to hold onto that pain of guilt in your mind while your heart is crying for mercy. Satan will work his darndest to convince you that you are not worthy to receive God’s grace.

I encourage you to say and believe the following like you mean it three times,

**Greater is He **that is in me, than he that is in the world
1John4:4

jmcrae, I like to say a prayer for you. I pray with people at my church.

May I encourage all to say the prayer with me for our sister jmcrae,


Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name; thy kingdom come;
thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread;
and forgive us our trespasses
as we forgive those who trespass against us;
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.

Dear Lord,
We thank you for Jesus the saviour of the world.
We lift up jmcrae to you oh God.
We pray in Jesus name, a mighty blessing of peace and comfort and let the truth of your loving grace be known in jmcrae’s heart who is being haunted by the sins of the past.
Oh God, I sense that jmcrae comes with a sincere heart. We trust in you oh Lord that you see jmcrae’s sincerity and divinely intervene into jmcrae’s body and release the chains which are binding jmcrae to the past. For You Jesus whose Spirit reighns in jmcrae’s heart is greater than he who lives in the world.
We hear jmcrae heart of confession and repentance and cry for your mercy. Lord, by your stripes, dear Jesus, you have forgiven and set the prisoner (jmcrae) free.
We pray a devine dose of your wisdom and strength into jmcrae so that she can put behind what is preventing her from feeling totally free in your loving merci and grace.

For thine in the kingdom, the power and the glory are yours.
Now and forever
in Jesus name, we pray

:amen

God jmcrae

 

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. . Dear Lord,
We thank you for Jesus the saviour of the world.
We lift up jmcrae to you oh God.
We pray in Jesus name, a mighty blessing of peace and comfort and let the truth of your loving grace be known in jmcrae’s heart who is being haunted by the sins of the past.
Oh God, I sense that jmcrae comes with a sincere heart. We trust in you oh Lord that you see jmcrae’s sincerity and divinely intervene into jmcrae’s body and release the chains which are binding jmcrae to the past. For You Jesus whose Spirit reighns in jmcrae’s heart is greater than he who lives in the world.
We hear jmcrae heart of confession and repentance and cry for your mercy. Lord, by your stripes, dear Jesus, you have forgiven and set the prisoner (jmcrae) free.
We pray a devine dose of your wisdom and strength into jmcrae so that she can put behind what is preventing her from feeling totally free in your loving merci and grace… . .

Please spare us your presumptuous public sanctimony in her regard.