Is there life in outer space?

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I would suggest reading the Fermi Paradox which discusses this topic.
 
TheHolyTrinity said:
Follow Curiositys’ Landing on Mars - Uses a combination of atmosphere air pressure, parachutes and rockets to aid landing.
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The Curiosity was far lighter than a manned ship would be; even then, a NASA engineer in charge of the landing described it as “seven seconds of sheer terror.” Even though nobody’s neck was being risked.

The Curiosity also used airbags on landing; this doesn’t work with human life on board because of contact forces of 25G or more.

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There are over 100,000,000,000 stars per galaxy. There are over 100,000,000,000 galaxies. That means that if one star in 100,000,000,000 has a planet circling it that has a civilization, there are over 100,000,000,000 civilizations in the universe!
 
with the vast size of the universe it would almost necessitate that there is more then one place where there is life. If it can happen on Earth I’m sure it can happen somewhere else in the universe, or has already happened or will happen again. Life could be hard to find but earth is like a grain of sand on a large beach, and that beach is on a planet. The Planet the Universe, the beach our galaxy. You can’t tell me that that one grain of sand is the only place life occurred.
 
Given the ttitle of Creator, I imagine that is exactly one would be doing if one was indeed so titled.
 
Charlemagne_II said:
Is there not just life, but life as we know it; or life on the way to becoming life as we know it; or life far more advanced than we know it? What are the odds, and what would be the chance we could ever prove it one way or the other by direct contact with aliens in outer space?

Your thoughts?
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Clearly there is because some of the folks on this Forum are from outer space. Though I wouldn’t say anything about their intelligence except that they don’t seem to able to know the difference from what is real ( and therefore true ) and what is pure fiction. Linus2nd
 
GEddie said:
The Curiosity was far lighter than a manned ship would be; even then, a NASA engineer in charge of the landing described it as “seven seconds of sheer terror.” Even though nobody’s neck was being risked.

The Curiosity also used airbags on landing; this doesn’t work with human life on board because of contact forces of 25G or more.

ICXC NIKA
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It was the Pathfinder 1996 and Mars Exploration Rover 2003 that used airbags. Curiosity is the size of a mini coupe. Pathfinder was a quarter the size of Curiosity. Mars Exploration Rover was half the size of Curiosity.

The description of the NASA engineer is his own perspective. It may not be the same perspective of a pilot. The Curiosity descent stage used rocket-powered deceleration then used a bridle (similar to a sky crane) attached to Curiosity to deliver it safely to the surface. At 1.6 km the speed 290kph the rocket-powered decelerates to 2.75 kph.

Therefor no airbags where used in this mission. At the above speeds would be sustainable to maintain human life.

John Stapp, M.D., Ph.D., Colonel, USAF withstood 45g deceleration in a forward sitting position. He was the first crash test dummy in history. Col John Stapp Takes a Lot of G’s
 
PeterGStanley said:
I would suggest reading the Fermi Paradox which discusses this topic.
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Depends on what variables you plug in - there are still unknowns that could change the results quite a bit. I expect with our newfound capability to detect exoplanets we might at least be able to fine-tune some of the variables. :twocents:
 
Linusthe2nd said:
Clearly there is because some of the folks on this Forum are from outer space. Though I wouldn’t say anything about their intelligence except that they don’t seem to able to know the difference from what is real ( and therefore true ) and what is pure fiction. Linus2nd
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Translation please?
 
There are over 100,000,000,000 stars in each galaxy. There are over 100,000,000,000 galaxies. That means that if there is only one civilization per 100,000,000,000 stars there are over 100,000,000,000 civilizations!
This is what 100,000,000,000 looks like! Imagine that each penny represents 100,000,000,000 stars.
kokogiak.com/megapenny/eleven.asp

It is unreasonable to believe that there is no life outside our solar system. The math does not lie. Yes it could be that we are alone ( what an impotent God that would imply!) . However, that is like saying that if I tossed a coin 100 times it would always be tails. Yes, it is possible but very unlikely.
PS; To get an idea of how huge 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ( the fewest amount of stars possible) is, imagine each penny in the diagram given in the site at this post as representing 100,000,000,000 stars!!!
 
wittgenstein said:
. . . Yes it could be that we are alone ( what an impotent God that would imply!) . However, that is like saying that if I tossed a coin 100 times it would always be tails. Yes, it is possible but very unlikely . . . /QUOTE]

there could be 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000+ other life forms created, but not one single other you (me) - some things don’t involve statistics, such as the creation of persons
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wittgenstein said:
There are over 100,000,000,000 stars in each galaxy. There are over 100,000,000,000 galaxies. That means that if there is only one civilization per 100,000,000,000 stars there are over 100,000,000,000 civilizations!
This is what 100,000,000,000 looks like! Imagine that each penny represents 100,000,000,000 stars.
kokogiak.com/megapenny/eleven.asp

It is unreasonable to believe that there is no life outside our solar system. The math does not lie. Yes it could be that we are alone ( what an impotent God that would imply!) . However, that is like saying that if I tossed a coin 100 times it would always be tails. Yes, it is possible but very unlikely.
PS; To get an idea of how huge 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ( the fewest amount of stars possible) is, imagine each penny in the diagram given in the site at this post as representing 100,000,000,000 stars!!!
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Since you are basing your statistics on nothing but your personal feelings, your ‘reasoning’ is unreasonable.
 
Do some googling. My stats are accurate (actually far too conservative). Those are how many stars per galaxy and how many galaxies. Do you disagree with the math? When multiplying 10x10, you simply add the zeros so a 1 with 11 zeros after it multiplied by a 1 with 11 zeros behind it = a 1 with 22 zeros after it.
Unfortunately, as usual you only tell me I’m wrong and never why or provide evidence. Probably because you have no evidence.
Scroll up and read the other posters about the Drake equation. My numbers are drastically smaller (I am saying 1 in 100,000,000,000).
 
wittgenstein said:
There are over 100,000,000,000 stars in each galaxy. There are over 100,000,000,000 galaxies. That means that if there is only one civilization per 100,000,000,000 stars there are over 100,000,000,000 civilizations!
This is what 100,000,000,000 looks like! Imagine that each penny represents 100,000,000,000 stars.
kokogiak.com/megapenny/eleven.asp

It is unreasonable to believe that there is no life outside our solar system. The math does not lie. Yes it could be that we are alone ( what an impotent God that would imply!) . However, that is like saying that if I tossed a coin 100 times it would always be tails. Yes, it is possible but very unlikely.
PS; To get an idea of how huge 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ( the fewest amount of stars possible) is, imagine each penny in the diagram given in the site at this post as representing 100,000,000,000 stars!!!
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It is neither reasonable nor unreasonable. We simply do not know. You can throw all the mathematics at it you want, that won’t change the fact of its reasonableness or unreasonableness. Linus2nd
 
Nimzovik said:
Aye! There’s the rub. Which are which?
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Fantasy would be things like believing that there are little green men occasionally bothering people who’s true stories are then covered up by the government.
 
Aloysium said:
we are in outer space; so yes there is life in outer space

i believe we are here, not because of some statistical (im)probability,
but because God created us
He may have created life similar to ours elsewhere, or not

the distances are so great that if there is life,
it is intended to develop on its own, or not
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catholictiger said:
with the vast size of the universe it would almost necessitate that there is more then one place where there is life. If it can happen on Earth I’m sure it can happen somewhere else in the universe, or has already happened or will happen again. Life could be hard to find but earth is like a grain of sand on a large beach, and that beach is on a planet. The Planet the Universe, the beach our galaxy. You can’t tell me that that one grain of sand is the only place life occurred.
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Nimzovik said:
Given the ttitle of Creator, I imagine that is exactly one would be doing if one was indeed so titled.
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Exactly! God is a Creator, He creates life, so why would He only create life on earth but create a huge universe with many planets?? 🤷 The only thing that makes sense is that there IS life on other planets. Why would you use a huge mixing bowl for 1 kernel of corn? Or huge countless amount of barrels for 1 apple? Why is the universe so huge if we are all God created? Why do other planets exist if God only created man? It’s illogical to think or assume no other life exists out there. Why have a house with hundreds of rooms if you only have 1 child? And just because we don’t see something and can’t see how it’s possible to do something doesn’t mean it can’t be done or hasn’t been done.
 
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