Is this cheating sinful?

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So we started online school and my teachers have given me practically zero assignments, my math teacher has given a few but she seems to not care what we do with it as long as it’s done. Would it be wrong to copy answers given what the teacher told us? I don’t feel like I’m sinning but I wanted to ask.
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Yes, it would be wrong. Just do your work.
What are you doing that you don’t have time to just do the work instead of cheating by copying answers, by the way?
 
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Yes, you are cheating. You could also call it lying or stealing… either is sin. In these days people who want to cheat have an easier time doing it. Kids have always tried to cheat. It’s doesn’t change the fact that it is wrong. What you “think” is your teacher’s attitude toward it might be is irrelevant.

It’s a sin; don’t do it.
 
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I don’t know how to do it, and the teacher isn’t providing any help and could care less how it’s done
 
This sounds very similar to another recent thread. The answer here is the same. It is cheating. Don’t do it. If you didn’t learn the material, then accept the consequences.
 
I would recommend emailing the teacher if you don’t understand something. You should do the work though. I’ve seen the effect of cheating at the University level and having habits of doing the right thing is the way to go. Plus learning is good for you, it builds character. I don’t remember a lot of what I learned in college but the knowledge that I can push through and do work when I don’t feel like it has stuck with me.
 
I never cheat, and I’ve emailed this teacher a ton and no response. I always accept failure if I don’t know how to do something, but when she said she doesn’t care what/how we do it, I don’t see why copying someone’s answers is morally wrong
 
I don’t understand why your default for “my teacher isn’t helpful and doesn’t care how we do it” is “copy someone’s answers”. Why isn’t your default, with how much technology is at our disposal now, “Well, the teacher isn’t helpful. However, there are a ton of resources online on how to do x-item. I’ll go find someone who explains it in a way I understand. Then I can do the work on my own.”?

It’s an important skill to have when those around you or above you aren’t helping to be able to research and learn on your own.
 
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saintlouisblues19 said:
but when she said she doesn’t care what/how we do it, I don’t see why copying someone’s answers is morally wrong
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Because cheating is wrong whether you’re allowed to do it or not. Just like abortion is wrong even if it’s legal. Or, in the case of the Nazis, genocide is wrong even if it’s encouraged.

This is a good opportunity to do the right thing for the sake of doing the right thing.
 
Why not find someone that does understand and ask them to explain it? I know for a fact there are YouTube videos for math online.


I am sorry, but you don’t seem to care about your schoolwork and are coming across as trying to justify cheating.

I doubt very much that the teacher meant “ I don’t care if you cheat as long as you get the work done.” I think that is your own personal spin on things.
 
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I adore when somebody starts a topic on here asking a question, then doesn’t get the reply they had hoped for, and argues with people about their response.

Here’s mine, and you won’t like it any more.

Yes, it is cheating, you should not cheat. If you have a very bad teacher who doesn’t care, you should make that clear to someone at the school. She can’t just ignore you if you ask her for help. Also in the meantime, get somebody else to help, as has been suggested. Perhaps a parent?
 
cheaters never win ; winners never cheat.
cheatin aint’ right whether you feel okay doing it or not.

You can do it ! Do the work you will feel Much better about that !
 
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but when she said she doesn’t care what/how we do it, I don’t see why copying someone’s answers is morally wrong
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Out of curiosity, are you going to copy someone’s answers and then tell your teacher you did? After all, if she doesn’t care, then you should feel perfectly fine with telling her exactly what you did and whose answers you copied. If your answer is no, you’re not, then you have your answer.

I’ve done my time in both public schooling and university. If I copied someone’s answers and told my professor, “Well you said you didn’t care how I’d get the answers!” They’d laugh on their way to the honor office to report me for my dishonesty and likely expulsion from the university. As they ought to.

You’re going to be putting your name on that paper. You’re submitting that work as your own. You are misrepresenting your work, which is mendacious.
 
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The link I provided is by a teacher that used to be at my son’s school. He has tons of videos, I bet the OP could get what he needs by searching there too.

Way better than cheating.
 
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My wife is a college math teacher, part time at two colleges, who is working mightily to provide content and classes during this online era.

I asked her for her opinion and her answer to whether it’s cheating was one word: No.
 
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I think her perspective is that her students need to learn how to do it. If copying answers for homework helps them understand it, all the better. Eventually it’ll catch up with them If they copy answers and don’t learn it, like on an exam.

And if the teacher is bailing on the students, then the failure is hers, not theirs.

She teaches at a community college where students struggle with childcare, rent, arrest records, PTSD from Iraq, public transportation…and some struggles are more important than homework. Especially during this nightmare we’re living in now.
 
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And if the teacher is bailing on the students, then the failure is hers, not theirs.
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I can agree with this to a degree. A teacher’s job is to help students learn so if they don’t actually do their job then it’s the teacher’s failing. However, learning is a personal effort. A teacher could be putting in 100% effort on a single student and it’ll do no good if the student doesn’t put in any effort on their own. In today’s age you’re not limited to just the teachers at your school or what materials your campus has bought. So a student doesn’t have an excuse of a poor teacher for not doing something if they can like it seems like the OP can.
 
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