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the Sacrament of Holy Orders is not a right for followers to have. no one can lay claim on receiving it. that is why we say those who become priests are “called”, because the decision of making someone a priest comes from Jesus, through the priestsWith all due respect, do you believe God chose some questionable members in the hierarchy before? I thought the Holy Father approves those who are to be Cardinals or bishops in the Latin Rite (but God still calls them to Holy Orders). I could be wrong.
but receiving Holy Orders doesn’t make one perfect nor lose their free well. they are still human and they can sin again. not just because you are called means you can’t sin anymore. don’t forget, Judas was called as well
i don’t think there is a general divide between Traditionalists and the rest. its what some people here make you thinnk, but i don’t believe it. there’s a few with a personal agenda who uses the veil of Traditional Catholicism as an excuse to practice bigotry against fellow Catholics. what they’re doing has nothing to do with Traditional Catholicism, but they just make it sound that way to justify their actionsI find the best way to get over the Traditional versus the rest divide is to begin to look at how Vatican II can be found in a “hermeneutic of continuity” as the Holy Father says.
Here is some comments on the “Mass of Vatican II” from Fr. Joseph Fessio.
ignatiusinsight.com/features2005/fessio_massv2_1_jan05.asp
ignatiusinsight.com/features2005/fessio_massv2_2_jan05.asp
Let’s not forget about the “Spirit of Vatican II.”
scdiocese.org/files/Pastoral_Letter_updated100809.pdf
I cannot find that the Church exists today in the way that Vatican II intended. Overemphasis and misinterpretation is what caused this divide between Traditionalists and the rest.
Best,
fish90
and most people here like myself who have spoken against these few people have nothing against Traditional Catholicsm. what we are against are those who claim to be Traditional Catholics, but act like a bunch of bigots