Is Wearing Immodest Clothing a Sin?

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austenbosten said:
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Walking_Home:
Seems to be – you are still holding others accountable for your weakness.
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Walking you still are on that again…Seriously dude get a friggin life! :rolleyes:
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Call em – as I see em.
 
austenbosten said:
Yeah well I ain’t your daddy, I ain’t your mommy, and I ain’t that girl/guy who broke your heart, so if you would please be kind enough to get a life and buzz off.
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I said I would let it go but not if you persist. Stop with your personal remarks. Learn to discuss not fight.
 
austenbosten said:
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Walking_Home:
Call em – as I see em.
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Yeah well I ain’t your daddy, I ain’t your mommy, and I ain’t that girl/guy who broke your heart, so if you would please be kind enough to get a life and buzz off.
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If you can’t handle discussions/debates — maybe you shouldn’t come into them.
 
austenbosten said:
Yeah well I ain’t your daddy, I ain’t your mommy, and I ain’t that girl/guy who broke your heart, so if you would please be kind enough to get a life and buzz off.
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You’ve just been reported for offensive posts.
 
Sorry to see your troubles, austenbosten. I suggest you just ignore those posters whom you perceive as unreasonable, trolling, and/or picking a fight with you. You can’t stop them from answering your posts, but you can choose not to answer their posts in return.
 
Bezant said:
I haven’t followed NFP or foreplay threads but the modesty and veil threads usually end in the same “blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah.”

The veil threads are especially tedious; sometimes feel like saying, “Yes, you are allowed to (but not required) to veil. We already know why you want to do it and why you’re hesitating to do it. If you’re having problems with it, it really is that simple to use a hat instead, or pins, or a scarf, or bin it (frankly I think mantillas look ugly on young women).”
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I veil at both forms of the Mass with a mantilla and I’m not a young person nor am I older. No one has dared to come up to me and say the veil looks ugly on me. I’ve gotten compliments from people, and some wishing the head covering would return for women too. You can have your opinion about mantillas and young women. When I am at attendance at the Extra Ordinary Form of the Mass most of the young women in attendance are wearing mantillas either black or white ones, plus they all looked beautiful wearing them with their modest yet nice & appropriate Mass clothing. More females should follow that example of all ages even if they choose not to wear the veil in terms of the modest & appropriate Mass apparel.

I read a past post where a person mentioned about appropriate clothing for the occasion. I can assure you that I will not go to a party wearing a mantilla as that is not the place or a track suit top/bottoms with tennis shoes. I have lots of clothes in my closet, and certain clothes worn for certain times. Most of my clothing is suitable for Mass and the business casual office I work in as they could be worn for either (or both). The rest of my clothing is casual, sporty, summer time, or formal wear for other times.
 
Halfway through thread. What’s up with the idea that I should be able to wear any thing I like, immodest as I want, and it’s not a sin because other people “shouldn’t” look at me lustfully and “should” know better. Yes, that’s how the world works; I don’t have to live in reality because it’s other people who “should” be different. As someone said…I’m not going to lock my door because people shouldn’t steal! Maybe I shouldn’t even go to church, because Adam and Eve shouldn’t have sinned in the first place!

Perhaps that last one is hyperbolic, but I’d still rather deal with life on life’s terms and dress modestly. Men are visual. Not animals, but more visual than many women understand. Good Christian men struggle with self control. How about men that don’t think it’s a sin and don’t even try to control themselves? Both men and women are to blame, but I would be foolish to not take care of my part of the equation and dress modestly. “be innocent as doves and cunning as snakes.”

In heaven, God willing, we can rely more on people doing what they “should.”
 
erine said:
Halfway through thread. What’s up with the idea that I should be able to wear any thing I like, immodest as I want, and it’s not a sin because other people “shouldn’t” look at me lustfully and “should” know better. Yes, that’s how the world works; I don’t have to live in reality because it’s other people who “should” be different. As someone said…I’m not going to lock my door because people shouldn’t steal! Maybe I shouldn’t even go to church, because Adam and Eve shouldn’t have sinned in the first place!

Perhaps that last one is hyperbolic, but I’d still rather deal with life on life’s terms and dress modestly. Men are visual. Not animals, but more visual than many women understand. Good Christian men struggle with self control. How about men that don’t think it’s a sin and don’t even try to control themselves? Both men and women are to blame, but I would be foolish to not take care of my part of the equation and dress modestly. “be innocent as doves and cunning as snakes.”

In heaven, God willing, we can rely more on people doing what they “should.”
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I don’t think anyone here is saying that wearing immodest clothing is good (as in clothes that actually ARE immodest).

But if a guy can’t control his lust (and I mean actual LUST, not just thinking the girl is attractive and being sexually attracted to her) while he’s at the beach where women are going to wear bathing suits, or be able to handle seeing a girl wear shorts outside on a hot day, then YES, that is on HIM and he needs to seek some help. It doesn’t make it someone else’s fault if he can’t handle that, just like it doesn’t make it anyone else’s fault for wearing sandals if a guy with an intense foot fetish walks by and starts lusting.
 
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Debora123 said:
I don’t think anyone here is saying that wearing immodest clothing is good (as in clothes that actually ARE immodest).

But if a guy can’t control his lust (and I mean actual LUST, not just thinking the girl is attractive and being sexually attracted to her) while he’s at the beach where women are going to wear bathing suits, or be able to handle seeing a girl wear shorts outside on a hot day, then YES, that is on HIM and he needs to seek some help. It doesn’t make it someone else’s fault if he can’t handle that, just like it doesn’t make it anyone else’s fault for wearing sandals if a guy with an intense foot fetish walks by and starts lusting.
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I agree with you, it is on him. Just like someone stealing my computer is on the thief, not on me for “tempting” the thief by owning a computer. Still, I am going to lock my door without considering it a form of oppression that I must pay money for locks and make the effort to lock them. That’s on me, or else I’m just living in a fantasy world; waiting for the world to become perfect and not taking protective measures to cope with the limits of the world.
 
erine said:
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I agree with you, it is on him. Just like someone stealing my computer is on the thief, not on me for “tempting” the thief by owning a computer. Still, I am going to lock my door without considering it a form of oppression that I must pay money for locks and make the effort to lock them. That’s on me, or else I’m just living in a fantasy world; waiting for the world to become perfect and not taking protective measures to cope with the limits of the world.
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Good post.
 
erine said:
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I agree with you, it is on him. Just like someone stealing my computer is on the thief, not on me for “tempting” the thief by owning a computer. Still, I am going to lock my door without considering it a form of oppression that I must pay money for locks and make the effort to lock them. That’s on me, or else I’m just living in a fantasy world; waiting for the world to become perfect and not taking protective measures to cope with the limits of the world.
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I guess I don’t consider wearing a bathing suit to the beach on the same level as not locking my door at night or not wearing a seat belt in the car. Locking your doors and wearing seat belts are things you’re supposed to do for your safety, whereas this is about wearing the proper attire for jumping into a body of water or for a walk in the park on a hot day. I don’t feel like I’m being “unsafe” when I do those things - especially if that’s what every other person around me is doing when they play in water or go out in the heat. I don’t consider it unsafe.
 
Debora123 said:
I guess I don’t consider wearing a bathing suit to the beach on the same level as not locking my door at night or not wearing a seat belt in the car. Locking your doors and wearing seat belts are things you’re supposed to do for your safety, whereas this is about wearing the proper attire for jumping into a body of water or for a walk in the park on a hot day. I don’t feel like I’m being “unsafe” when I do those things - especially if that’s what every other person around me is doing when they play in water or go out in the heat. I don’t consider it unsafe.
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Well said. I’ve always thought that if people spent as much time working on sending messages to potential criminals that things like theft and rape are wrong as they did on chastising victims and potential victims for going about theirl lives and on how they were ‘failed’ for not preventing a crime, there just might be less of it in the first place.
 
JaneGrey said:
Well said. I’ve always thought that if people spent as much time working on sending messages to potential criminals that things like theft and rape are wrong as they did on chastising victims and potential victims for going about theirl lives and on how they were ‘failed’ for not preventing a crime, there just might be less of it in the first place.
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Absolutely!
 
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