Is yoga demonic or no?

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I feel like there are two arguments. 1) You’re using yoga to exercise with no spiritual element. That isn’t yoga…That is a stretch.
Incorrect. The definition of yoga also includes “a series of exercises for health” (and variants thereof) that do not reference Hinduism/spirituality/etc. It is generally spelled with a lower-case “y,” versus that upper-case “Y,” generally used to reference the spiritual element. Your continued insistence that this is not the case does not properly reflect one of the common definitions of yoga, and continues to confuse the discussion.
Again the difference between yoga and a stretch is…intent.
Or, more properly, the difference between “Yoga” and “yoga” is intent.
How does a mere exercise help you let go of “attachments” or “addictions”?
It increases general well being, which appears to limit addictive behavior and attachments. Speaking for myself, I never smoked a cigarette in my entire life. The reason is that I used to work out several hours a day, and the mere thought of something damaging my lungs was repulsive.

Funny thing is we live in a society of generally unhealthy people that don’t exercise and have plenty of attachments and addictions. Compare with primitive peoples…few attachments and extremely healthy.
 
As far as states of consciousness and the nervous sytem, I cannot speak to the Kundalini business other than to say that God did give us a nervous system and perhaps means to heal it.
FWIW, I can see an issue with Kundalini yoga for Catholics. The issue is that one is not likely to find an instructor that is not a guru (or wannabe guru), so the instructor will almost certainly be adding the spiritual element to the class. That said, there can be value in the breathing exercises that are part of that practice. Most of the breathing exercises can be readily found elsewhere, except maybe some of the rapid breathing exercises.
 
As I stated earlier, and proponents as well as noted, that it boils down to “intent”. Are you intending to honor Hindu gods? If the answer is no, then it is not yoga.
No, Evania.

YOU have arbitrarily declared for all secular practitioners of yoga: If you are doing yoga, you are worshipping Hindu deities.

There is no reason that we cannot say, “We are practicing yoga–stretches and relaxation–and it has nothing whatsoever to do with Hindu deities.”
 
Thanks for continuing the discussion with me. Yes, communion of saints and communion with God, communion in Christ, realizing and knowing that in a personal love. There are many kinds of Hindus & yogis. I think some seek unity with all that exists, for some personal experience and some nonpersonal.
I thank you as well for staying patient with me:)
I can agree with your above statement. As they lack the fullness of Truth, it would make sense to me that they (Hindus), would sense such a profound mystery we have in the Communion in Christ, and maybe that might explain why they are seeking this unity within themselves. St. Augustine stated,“Our hearts are restless Oh Lord, until they rest in You”…I honestly don’t know. However, as Catholics, don’t we have that? We don’t need postures to help us find the “God within”. God is literally within us when we receive Him in the Sacrament of the Eucharist. We don’t have to adopt eastern mysticism or alter our consciousness, or empty our minds. St. Paul said to FILL our minds with what is good and honorable.
As you have said many times Hatha yoga is one part of a more complex yoga lifestyle including virtues. As far as states of consciousness and the nervous sytem, I cannot speak to the Kundalini business other than to say that God did give us a nervous system and perhaps means to heal it. But doesn’t adoration also alter our conciousness and sooth our nervous system. I know it does for me.
Yes, I agree that God gave us a nervous system. However, we have the ability to misuse it. God gave us a reproductive system as well, and people misuse that all the time. I love going to Adoration, and I certainly can relate to you there. In my opinion, there is something different about the Adoration Chapel. I can sense a deep peace as soon as I step into the room. I don’t have to alter my consciousness to feel that. I don’t try to empty my mind. I just speak to Him, and He speaks to my heart. Like the Father of the Prodigal Son, He’s already there for us. The Sacraments are the ways Jesus gave us to seek unity with Him. There is nothing else that can bring us to deeper union.
Yes, I use yoga to pray, to focus on the presence of Christ who is always with us and yet not so often known. The Christian journey is all about altering consciouness, the rosary, fasting, spiritual exercises, Lectio Divina, The Jesus prayer, chaplets, and novenas, especailly the Mass wherein we use ritual to help shift us out of our usualy daily consciousness. Isn’t that why many people prefer the Latin Mass?
I love all the things you mentioned, but I disagree that the Christian journey is all about altering consciousness. The things you mentioned keep our minds engaged and active in prayer. Let me explain: The controversial founder of the Central Prayer movement, Thomas Keating, sought to Christianize Transcendental Meditation, into what is known as Centering Prayer. He invited some top Buddists, Hindus and a Zen master to teach his monks in weeks long retreats. TM is identical to CP except instead of calling on a Hindu god or demon, you replace the name with something like “Love”. Anyway, both TM and CP teach that after awhile your mind will be emptied and you will start picking up vibrations. interestingly enough this process and the resulting vibrations are also reported by those who say that they have succeeded at astral projection. You are instructed to let all thoughts and feelings pass. Keating even instructs you to let the good and holy thoughts pass out of your mind. The end result is True Conciousness - your God center. This is what Pope John Paul was talking about when he said that a prayer completely centered on Christ ‘is valid even in our day, against some methods of prayer which are not inspired by the gospel and which in practice tend to set aside Christ in preference for a **mental void **which makes no sense in Christianity." In all honesty Michael, that doesn’t sound like what you’re doing. It sounds like when you are praying the Rosary, you are meditating and focusing on that particular mystery, thus it is drawing you into a closer contemplation into the life of Jesus. That is by the way, Christian meditation. We involve out minds and imaginations and actively enter into the Gospel.
Why do you view it as a danger seeing as how we have so many traditional Catholic methods to do it? How do you feel about the Catholic Charismatics?
I admittedly don’t know much (if anything) about Catholic Charismatics. Would you mind explaining it to me?
 
No, Evania.

YOU have arbitrarily declared for all secular practitioners of yoga: If you are doing yoga, you are worshipping Hindu deities.

There is no reason that we cannot say, “We are practicing yoga–stretches and relaxation–and it has nothing whatsoever to do with Hindu deities.”
I said nothing of the sort.

Here is what I said.
If you are not intending to do the core of what yoga is: Then you are…stretching. Why is there such an aversion to that word?
So…let me ask you.

What makes your stretch “yoga”?
 
So…let me ask you.

What makes your stretch “yoga”?
What makes Chinese food “Chinese?”

What makes Catholic doctrine “Catholic?”

Origin.

Chinese food can simply be called food, Catholic doctrine can simply be called Truth, and yoga exercises can simply be called exercises. However, society has decided to chose to address these things in a particular manner.

Some people are highly sensitive to anything that can be construed contrary to their religious beliefs, and simply dismiss “yoga” outright. However, it is often done selectively. People will be up in arms over “yoga,” but yet they won’t think twice about eating Chinese food, whose flavor profile is based on five-element theory (part of Buddhism).
 
However, as Catholics, don’t we have that? We don’t need postures to help us find the “God within”. God is literally within us when we receive Him in the Sacrament of the Eucharist. We don’t have to adopt eastern mysticism or alter our consciousness, or empty our minds. St. Paul said to FILL our minds with what is good and honorable.
We have it but we quite often do not feel it enough to live it. We don’t have to adopt eastern mysticism but we do have to discipline our bodies and deal with their weaknesses. We all need to calm down so we can hear “God within” speaking to our hearts. Some of us find these stretches helpful, relaxing and refreshing.

But the emtines you speak of, is that not also our well known via negative expressed so well by our beloved John of the Cross? Even in his own time, he presented unusual teachings, difficult to understand, accept and practice. For example, inner silence of prayer/contemplation and how it provides immunity from attacks from the devil be reducing the imagination and verbal thoughts to tamper with.

(See Book 3, chapter 4 :

“For the devil has no power over the soul unless it be through the operations of its faculties, principally by means of knowledge, whereupon depend almost all the other operations of the other faculties. Wherefore, if the memory be annihilated with respect to them, the devil can do naught; for he finds no foothold, and without a foothold he is powerless.”

and Chapter 6, #2
“2. In the second place, it is freed from many suggestions, temptations and motions of the devil, which he infuses into the soul by means of thoughts and ideas, causing it to fall into many impurities and sins, as David says in these words: ‘They have thought and spoken wickedness.’ And thus, when these thoughts have been completely removed, the devil has naught wherewith to assault the soul by natural means.”

pages 194-196
basilica.org/pages/ebooks/St.%20John%20of%20the%20Cross-Ascent%20of%20Mount%20Carmel.pdf

We all find it extremely difficult to practice silence, outer and inner. Even if we do not speak we usually have that inner monologue going on except in moments of pure attention. It takes faith to get through what seems to be a negative phase befor we realize the more subtle fullness of Christ already there all the time. There are so many distractions.
I love all the things you mentioned, but I disagree that the Christian journey is all about altering consciousness. The things you mentioned keep our minds engaged and active in prayer.
But always with an opn heart for just listening in pure attention and availible for the gift of contemplation.
I admittedly don’t know much (if anything) about Catholic Charismatics. Would you mind explaining it to me?
Well, people get *slain in the spirit *and speak in tongues and it can be pretty wild for a conservative quiet guy such as me. Clearly since the time of Jesus consciousness has been altered by the Holy Spirit.

Nighty night:yawn:
 
FWIW, I can see an issue with Kundalini yoga for Catholics. The issue is that one is not likely to find an instructor that is not a guru (or wannabe guru), so the instructor will almost certainly be adding the spiritual element to the class. That said, there can be value in the breathing exercises that are part of that practice. Most of the breathing exercises can be readily found elsewhere, except maybe some of the rapid breathing exercises.
I have never gotten into the extreme stuff, even the breathing techniques other then a few deep slow breaths to slow things down. If God indeed created us with latent energies I am content to wait patiently for God to develop them.
 
I said nothing of the sort.
Absolutely, you did. You have decided that yoga must involve honoring Hindu gods.

And here is where you have said so. Twice.
Are you intending to honor Hindu gods? If the answer is no, then it is not yoga.
Yoga is a spiritual practice that incorporates certain stretches to honor their gods.
That is your assignation.

But it doesn’t have to be a practice which honors Hindu gods.

 
We have it but we quite often do not feel it enough to live it. We don’t have to adopt eastern mysticism but we do have to discipline our bodies and deal with their weaknesses. We all need to calm down so we can hear “God within” speaking to our hearts. Some of us find these stretches helpful, relaxing and refreshing.

But the emtines you speak of, is that not also our well known via negative expressed so well by our beloved John of the Cross? Even in his own time, he presented unusual teachings, difficult to understand, accept and practice. For example, inner silence of prayer/contemplation and how it provides immunity from attacks from the devil be reducing the imagination and verbal thoughts to tamper with.

(See Book 3, chapter 4 :

“For the devil has no power over the soul unless it be through the operations of its faculties, principally by means of knowledge, whereupon depend almost all the other operations of the other faculties. Wherefore, if the memory be annihilated with respect to them, the devil can do naught; for he finds no foothold, and without a foothold he is powerless.”

and Chapter 6, #2
“2. In the second place, it is freed from many suggestions, temptations and motions of the devil, which he infuses into the soul by means of thoughts and ideas, causing it to fall into many impurities and sins, as David says in these words: ‘They have thought and spoken wickedness.’ And thus, when these thoughts have been completely removed, the devil has naught wherewith to assault the soul by natural means.”

pages 194-196
basilica.org/pages/ebooks/St.%20John%20of%20the%20Cross-Ascent%20of%20Mount%20Carmel.pdf

We all find it extremely difficult to practice silence, outer and inner. Even if we do not speak we usually have that inner monologue going on except in moments of pure attention. It takes faith to get through what seems to be a negative phase befor we realize the more subtle fullness of Christ already there all the time. There are so many distractions.

But always with an opn heart for just listening in pure attention and availible for the gift of contemplation.

Well, people get *slain in the spirit *and speak in tongues and it can be pretty wild for a conservative quiet guy such as me. Clearly since the time of Jesus consciousness has been altered by the Holy Spirit.

Nighty night:yawn:
Good debate Michael!

Good night:)
 
Absolutely, you did. You have decided that yoga must involve honoring Hindu gods.

And here is where you have said so. Twice.

That is your assignation.

But it doesn’t have to be a practice which honors Hindu gods.

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Love your meme!👍

Don’t take my word for it…

According to B. K. S. Iyengar, the founder of the most popular form of hatha yoga in the U.S., yoga is “the means by which the human soul may be completely united with the Supreme Spirit pervading the universe and thus attain liberation” (Yoga Journal, May/June 1993, p. 69). Another early pioneer of hatha yoga, Richard Hittleman, who had a television show on yoga, stated that as yoga students practiced the physical positions, they would eventually be ready to investigate the spiritual component which is “the entire essence of the subject” (Yoga Journal, May/June 1993, p. 68). Probably more than anyone else, Iyengar and Hittleman are responsible for the way yoga is taught in the U.S. today and for its popularity. Based on their own statements and beliefs, one can see they would be the first to deny that one could separate yoga from its Hindu source.

Going to bed now. Have a good night.

God Bless!
 
Love your meme!👍

Don’t take my word for it…

According to B. K. S. Iyengar, the founder of the most popular form of hatha yoga in the U.S., yoga is “the means by which the human soul may be completely united with the Supreme Spirit pervading the universe and thus attain liberation” (Yoga Journal, May/June 1993, p. 69). Another early pioneer of hatha yoga, Richard Hittleman, who had a television show on yoga, stated that as yoga students practiced the physical positions, they would eventually be ready to investigate the spiritual component which is “the entire essence of the subject” (Yoga Journal, May/June 1993, p. 68). Probably more than anyone else, Iyengar and Hittleman are responsible for the way yoga is taught in the U.S. today and for its popularity. Based on their own statements and beliefs, one can see they would be the first to deny that one could separate yoga from its Hindu source.

Going to bed now. Have a good night.

God Bless!
And here is another definition, which has divorced yoga from its worship of Hindu deities:

wordiq.com/definition/Yoga_(alternative_medicine

and another one:

mayoclinic.com/health/yoga/CM00004
 
Fr. Gabrielle Amorth states that yoga can open doorways to evil hence I do not practice yoga tai chi martial arts or any other eastern exercises since most of them developed out of religious practices
 
Some people are highly sensitive to anything that can be construed contrary to their religious beliefs, and simply dismiss “yoga” outright. However, it is often done selectively. People will be up in arms over “yoga,” but yet they won’t think twice
Catholics are wary as it is clear that “supernatural phenomena” is taking place in the Church today. Those who have escaped the world of the occult and come to the real God and Jesus Christ understand very clearly what is going on.

Sadly there are countless people, including many in church leadership who don’t have a clue. Those who are uninformed of this deadly power invading the church would do well to take heed!

I must state as clearly as possible that anyone who gets involved with yoga, and kundalini energy which is the aim of all yoga, is making a very, very big mistake. No matter how committed a Catholic may be, priest or lay person alike, when a believer chooses to involve himself or herself with the world of the occult, including any and all levels of yoga practice, for “exercise” or otherwise, very powerful spontaneous demonic manifestations can and do frequently occur.

Many uninformed people say that yoga exercises can be separated from yoga philosophy. This simply is not true. It is a well known fact that yoga postures/poses are the outworking of occult philosophy. Yoga is an occult practice. It is the basis of the Hinduism. Westernized as “Breath Religion”, “The Science of Breath”, and “Transcendental Meditation” “The Science of Breath”, “Yoga for exercise”, “Christian Yoga”, “Mommy and Me Yoga”, “Holy Yoga”, it’s all evil.

It leads individuals to believe the great lie of human “godhood”. Yoga is demonic in origin, it comes from the teachings of demons, and it stands vehemently opposed to the God, the Bible and the faith of Catholics.

Yoga, even done as merely an “exercise”, has the power to produce occult phenomena dangerous enough to undo the human psyche. Sadly, countless people, including many undiscerning Catholic, believe that yoga can be done as exercise or as an integrative worship practice - as part of a “transformative process” of drawing “closer to the Divine”. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Kundalini is the mainstay of all yoga practices. As I stated in earlier posts that the awakening of kundalini - the Serpent Power, is the mainstay of all yoga practices, kundalini energy is demonic power masquerading as a “cosmic life force”. Why in the world are practicing Catholics doing yoga and trying to integrate kundalini into their Catholic spirituality? Catholics are not to partake in deeds of darkness and be yoked with pagan practices, but to live as children of light, pleasing the Lord.

Kundalini awakening is called kriyas. A number of emotional and bodily responses that are “electrical surges” and “electrical impulses” that stream up and down the spine, “heat energy” moving through the legs and hands known to be associated with this occult “energy”. People have been known to lose complete control of their emotions and manifest powerful rushes of ecstatic joy, uncontrolled laughter, intense crying, violent screaming, making unusual animal noises, and emitting grotesque growls and sardonic laughter. They can also sink into states of incredible despair whilst feeling fear, anxiety, sadness, anger, impending insanity and even suicidal thoughts.

Accompanying these things are also sweet smells, ghastly odors, and intense, ecstatic and even painful, sexual arousal.

This list is just the tip of the iceberg of a long list of occult phenomena related to kundalini awakening. If indeed the above descriptions have been brought about through the awakening of kundalini energy (demonic power), then Catholics ought to recognize them as demonic - for that is what they are.

Let the reader beware - involving oneself with yoga and kundalini energy gives the green light to ancient, baleful entities who seek to involve themselves in dismantling human lives. Whether one is a just a beginner, or an expert, all yoga postures and breath prayers have the capacity to invoke dark evil powers.

Once the world of occult power has been tapped into through yoga postures, breathing techniques, visualization and occult contemplative prayer and chanting, the dismantling begins. It might be slow at first, but to be sure, the dismantling of one’s personality and a new found hostility towards God has set in. The end result is full conversion to an occult worldview.

Kundalini, the cosmic life force of the Hindu goddess Shakti, is as dangerous a power as any human can ever experience. The very height and crowning achievement of yogic religion ends with severe stages and states of demon possession. Included in this phenomena is possession to such a degree that a persons individual human personality is completely blown out and replaced by an entity that counterfeits itself as the previously known human personality.

This extreme phenomena is known as perfect possession. In Indian religion it is achieved through yoga. Oftentimes practitioners of yoga can, without even realizing what is happening to them, become involuntarily possessed by demons It is in this state that many yogi’s often declare themselves to have achieved Self-realization - the acknowledgment of one’s own unity with Brahman, the Universal Divine consciousness.

The Bible and CC, is very clear that Catholics are not to partake in paganism or occult practices of any kind.

Kundalini energy, the heart and soul of all yoga and contemplative centering prayer, ought to be avoided at all costs. Occult power manifestations occurring in the name of Catholicism are a blight upon Our Lord. No wonder the world looks on in disbelief as more and more Catholics are utilizing occult methods to “have an experience”.

God Bless

THT
 
Many uninformed people say that yoga exercises can be separated from yoga philosophy. This simply is not true.
Once again, they don’t need to be separated…they are already separate. At some point in time someone decided to include them into a spiritual practice. That does not mean somehow body movements that come from God are somehow taken from God and are no longer of God. Is gold inherently evil because someone made a golden calf out of it?
It is a well known fact that yoga postures/poses are the outworking of occult philosophy.
If you can provide a source that states movements of a body designed by God are inherently evil? Also that if someone decides that a certain movement should be included into a non-Christian practice, it becomes evil from that point forward. For some strange reason, I can’t find such a source.
 
Fr. Gabrielle Amorth states that yoga can open doorways to evil hence I do not practice yoga tai chi martial arts or any other eastern exercises since most of them developed out of religious practices
It should be noted that priests, exorcists, etc. are only seeing one side of the story. I doubt they are talking to dozens of people each day taking about how various exercises (yoga, taiji, qi gong, etc.) are NOT affecting them spiritually, or affecting them in a positive way. Informed opinions require one to look at both sides of the issue.
 
Many uninformed people say that yoga exercises can be separated from yoga philosophy. This simply is not true. It is a well known fact that yoga postures/poses are the outworking of occult philosophy. Yoga is an occult practice. It is the basis of the Hinduism. Westernized as “Breath Religion”, “The Science of Breath”, and “Transcendental Meditation” “The Science of Breath”, “Yoga for exercise”, “Christian Yoga”, “Mommy and Me Yoga”, “Holy Yoga”, it’s all evil.

It leads individuals to believe the great lie of human “godhood”. Yoga is demonic in origin, it comes from the teachings of demons, and it stands vehemently opposed to the God, the Bible and the faith of Catholics.

Yoga, even done as merely an “exercise”, has the power to produce occult phenomena dangerous enough to undo the human psyche. Sadly, countless people, including many undiscerning Catholic, believe that yoga can be done as exercise or as an integrative worship practice - as part of a “transformative process” of drawing “closer to the Divine”. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Kundalini is the mainstay of all yoga practices. As I stated in earlier posts that the awakening of kundalini - the Serpent Power, is the mainstay of all yoga practices, kundalini energy is demonic power masquerading as a “cosmic life force”. Why in the world are practicing Catholics doing yoga and trying to integrate kundalini into their Catholic spirituality? Catholics are not to partake in deeds of darkness and be yoked with pagan practices, but to live as children of light, pleasing the Lord.

Kundalini awakening is called kriyas. A number of emotional and bodily responses that are “electrical surges” and “electrical impulses” that stream up and down the spine, “heat energy” moving through the legs and hands known to be associated with this occult “energy”. People have been known to lose complete control of their emotions and manifest powerful rushes of ecstatic joy, uncontrolled laughter, intense crying, violent screaming, making unusual animal noises, and emitting grotesque growls and sardonic laughter. They can also sink into states of incredible despair whilst feeling fear, anxiety, sadness, anger, impending insanity and even suicidal thoughts.

Accompanying these things are also sweet smells, ghastly odors, and intense, ecstatic and even painful, sexual arousal.

This list is just the tip of the iceberg of a long list of occult phenomena related to kundalini awakening. If indeed the above descriptions have been brought about through the awakening of kundalini energy (demonic power), then Catholics ought to recognize them as demonic - for that is what they are.

Let the reader beware - involving oneself with yoga and kundalini energy gives the green light to ancient, baleful entities who seek to involve themselves in dismantling human lives. Whether one is a just a beginner, or an expert, all yoga postures and breath prayers have the capacity to invoke dark evil powers.

Once the world of occult power has been tapped into through yoga postures, breathing techniques, visualization and occult contemplative prayer and chanting, the dismantling begins. It might be slow at first, but to be sure, the dismantling of one’s personality and a new found hostility towards God has set in. The end result is full conversion to an occult worldview.

(to see this in full go to post #865)

This extreme phenomena is known as perfect possession. In Indian religion it is achieved through yoga. Oftentimes practitioners of yoga can, without even realizing what is happening to them, become involuntarily possessed by demons It is in this state that many yogi’s often declare themselves to have achieved Self-realization - the acknowledgment of one’s own unity with Brahman, the Universal Divine consciousness.

The Bible and CC, is very clear that Catholics are not to partake in paganism or occult practices of any kind.

Kundalini energy, the heart and soul of all yoga and contemplative centering prayer, ought to be avoided at all costs. Occult power manifestations occurring in the name of Catholicism are a blight upon Our Lord. No wonder the world looks on in disbelief as more and more Catholics are utilizing occult methods to “have an experience”.

God Bless

THT
Yes, may God Bless you for all this information.
Let me add to this so that no body doubts that all this comes from Satan.

From the Bhagavad Gita,
From BG ch. 11

9 When Krishna,** the God of Yoga**, had thus spoken, O king,
he appeared then to Arjuna in his supreme divine form.

Verse 23 describes a horrible dragon with many bellies, many heads horrible frightening teeth… you will see it more clear later on and what is his purpose.

In verse 24 seen the vision Arjuna says that his heart shakes with terror and that his peace left him. This speaks tons about the nature of this being and the revelation is giving.

This is the Brahma of the Hindus, Krishna, Vishnu, does not matter the name

In verses 27 and 29 describes human beings rushing into his jaws and going between his fearful fangs (horrible teeth) and their heads being crushed between them… compare with Rev 12:4 when the dragon stood before the woman to eat the child.

In verse 32 He reveals his name and what is he doing. His name is **destroyer **and had come to destroy all peoples and the world of men!!!

Please you just have to go to the Book of Revelation in ch. 12 to see the similitude with Krishna and if you go to Revelation 9: 3 and 11 you will see that the locusts have a King over them who is the angel of the Abyss, in English “destroyer”. And precisely Satan is bound right there in the Abyss.

For the love of the Truth and the unveiling of Satan,
Gloria

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Yoga, even done as merely an “exercise”, has the power to produce occult phenomena dangerous enough to undo the human psyche.
This is superstition, and as such, is something contrary to the teachings of our faith.
 
This is superstition, and as such, is something contrary to the teachings of our faith.
From the Bhagavad Gita,
From BG ch. 11

9 When Krishna,
the God of Yoga****, had thus spoken, O king,
he appeared then to Arjuna in his supreme divine form.
In full in Post #868

You can not deny the implication of a religion just by using the name “YOGA”, and is not superstition, is the reality of this name given by Satan himself, why you want to do anything with it?

If you want to do exercises not related to a religion find someone who does it in the name of **fitness ** of something else. I have friends that suposly they do Yoga for relaxation and then they start to tell me about the center of or thoughts in the midst of our eyes, below the forhead, precisly where Krisna teaches is the third eye. Not worth to get involve in this thing, better to meditate in your prayers in Christ and keep your mind all the time in him. You can sit and do this alone or with your friends, and do not call it Yoga, but Christian meditation.

In the love of the Truth,
Gloria
 
In full in Post #868

You can not deny the implication of a religion just by using the name “YOGA”, and is not superstition, is the reality of this name given by Satan himself, why you want to do anything with it?

If you want to do exercises not related to a religion find someone who does it in the name of **fitness ** of something else. I have friends that suposly they do Yoga for relaxation and then they start to tell me about the center of or thoughts in the midst of our eyes, below the forhead, precisly where Krisna teaches is the third eye. Not worth to get involve in this thing, better to meditate in your prayers in Christ and keep your mind all the time in him. You can sit and do this alone or with your friends, and do not call it Yoga, but Christian meditation.

In the love of the Truth,
Gloria
I reject the idea that one cannot take the name “Yoga” and practice it without an reference to its religious origin.

It is possible to do this for many people. 🤷

I feel an analogy to Greek mythology might be appropriate here.

Greek mythology was originally written as a paean to the gods.
Today, they are merely tales about fictional characters.

I allow my children to read and enjoy Greek mythology without any worries that this will lead them to worshipping false gods.

Just like I let them read fairy tales without fearing that they are going to be honoring fairies.
 
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