ham, you are like a poorly behaved child who says things simply for the attention. until you can grow up and behave like an adult and have an actual discussion like an adult, i am through arguing with you. when youve decided that you are ready to have an adult discussion and put in your 2 cents, then you can come back to us. until that moment comes, stop wasting our time.
oh stop it - you found a few peaceful passages and we have read these so often that we have them memorized.
Ham I noticed you had no enlightening words to explain the photos I posted. I find that very interesting. You can chastise Catholics, but you can not explain photos of your fellow Muslims committing such evil. I would have expected you to at least say what they are doing is wrong. Yet so far not one Muslim as condemned them.
…and we Christians have the braclets and keychains that say “W.W.J.D.” as reminders so that we can stop and think, "gee, i wonder what the right thing to do is in this given situation? what would Jesus do? does it go against any of the 10 Commandments? does it show a good model for what i believe in?.** etc.” so that we can try to be better people and follow God’s laws more faithfully
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indeed, a coward. (and i liked your comment about the scaring the pants off death with a sword, very funny!
i laughed:thumbsup: )You should read this book, ‘Understanding muhammad, A Psychobiography’. It is written by an Iranian ex-muslim who shows us that ‘islam is Muhammadanism. Only by understanding him can one know what makes them tick.’I find the phrasing of the “I have been made victorious with terror” passage interesting. Even read in context, there is no mention of God at all, other than a sort of honorific “Allah’s apostle” to refer to Muhammad, who then says all these things about how great he himself is. All things point to Muhammad, nothing to God. It is very strange behavior for a prophet of God to go on and on about how great he is instead of how great He is!
Besides, shouldn’t a true prophet of God be made victorious WITH THE LORD, not with terror or anything like that? Christ was victorious over death, but not because he scared the pants off of it with a big sword or something. Passages like this, far from making Muhammad appear strong, to the non-Muslim make him appear boastful, violent, and weak.
the problem now is that by doing this we are condemning our children to islam. By silence when they start their bullying and threatening - they win. they continue to pick at our laws, our institutions, etc and we will find ourselves with the same problems as every other country’s populations have found themselves - dead, converted or subjugated. It ALWAYS starts out peaceful. We have time to stop them with words and by standing up to their demands.indeed, a coward. (and i liked your comment about the scaring the pants off death with a sword, very funny!
Jesus wasnt afraid of His accusers and those who didn’t agree. He would never have threatened them, rather He always invited them and never turned anyone away. He was peaceful in everything, and He knew that humility, meekness, and at the right time silence was the best way to deal with His enemies. He had the courage to die for all of them to show them the meaning of His message of peace.
muhammed would have been all guns blazing had he been in that position.
Well, they are told that IZU (Jesus) is going to come back and kill all the ones who are not muslims, or maybe it is better said by saying all of us who do not bow to allah will be thrown to hades.
though wasnt it caligula who made his horse a senator…osama bin laden is a very, religious muslim. And maybe you can see the difference between the two from these phrases from both:quote from understanding muhammed: *"Understanding Muhammad is a psychobiography of Allah’s Prophet. It seeks to unveil the mystery of that man. Historians tell us Muhammad used to withdraw to a cave, spending days wrapped in his thoughts. He heard bells ringing and had ghostly visions. He thought he was demon possessed, until his wife reassured him he had become a prophet. Convinced of his status, he was intolerant of those who rejected him, assassinated those who criticized him, raided, looted, and massacred entire populations. He reduced thousands to slavery, raped, and allowed his men to rape female captives. All of this, he did with a clear conscience and a sense of entitlement.
He was magnanimous toward those who admired him, but vengeful toward those who did not. He believed he was the most perfect human creation and the universe’s raison d’être. Muhammad was no ordinary man. He was a narcissist.*
this reminds me of osama bin laden with the caves. and eve with adam with his wife telling him he was a prophet. and any insecure man with a serious problem or two and seems to be a skeleton of what hitler was and - especially - did. reign with terror and you get what you want. its like a spoiled child! (and someone commented on me being mentally unstable! wow. they should totally pay attention to this book.**), or like napoleon with his whole shinanigans…anybody else see a pattern emerging? this ones just double your pleasure, double your fun cos its lasting a lot longer than any of the other men from history i just mentioned…maybe they were just the fad diets and this is the real thing…so muhammadanism is like a huge-lasting-a-few-centuries-“yay, lets adopt a crazy man’s philosophy”-party. i get it now!
maybe its a matter of knowing when to be silent and when to speak. i think its important to understand that knowing what battles to pick is part of the game. even Jesus was smart when He chose to speak to Pilate, and even then, His words were carefully chosen. the same is true for us. i do not believe in condemning our children to islam. i **never **would. if my children were being taunted, i would pray that they would be the children that would be praying very hard on the inside for these other children. by prayer, we could win. i think if ALL of us Christians banded together and said, “no way, sister” to the stupid nitpickings of annoying muslim whiners of fairness, i think we could get somewhere. thing is, who wants to stand up to them? we have to though, we need to be united to show them that their scare tactics wont work on us no matter what they might throw at us or threaten to do. and we need to all stand firm. we cannot fight amongst ourselves because of our differences. we as Christians are unique because we all have a central basis of belief being Christ, (who also desires a unity of Christians), and we also have the Holy Spirit to be our Strength and Guide. that means that we have the most powerful thing of all: LOVE. and nothing will overcome that.
i see no difference between those two statements. one is just more ‘complete’ if you as to the ’ there is no God but God and muhammed is His prophet’. its the statement that you take when you want to “revert” (according to them) to islam. no difference at all. same thing. same war. same everything. i dont even distinguish whether his hands are bloody from his own sword cutting off someones head or if they are bloody because he tells someone else to do his handy work (coward). either way, they are both just as guilty of the crime. i do hope that someday he sees the error of his ways.
Just think of how much more chaos there would be if there was W.W.M.D. bracelets.WOW, i read the story of the murder of ka’b and WOW that is horrible (not really suprising, unfortunately). interesting to quote:“The Prophet of Allâh not only encouraged assassination, he advocated deception and treachery, as well.”:bigyikes:
wow. i wonder which one is really deceived.
pagans tortured & forced Muslims including Prophet Muhammed (p) to leave their birthplace Macca.
We read in the Koran that Allah supposedly commanded Muslims to kidnap, intercept, and slay pagans before the conquest of Mecca!!! You call this mercy? WOW Scary!
i was just watching on tv about the Muslim man killing Um Quirfa, that even the islamic scriptures admit she was killed brutally because she spoke bad about Muhammad, and Muhammad gave his total approval of her assassination (while breastfeading) and even asked about her daughter for himself…this is from the “mercy to mankind pbuh”…just sick.We read in the Koran that Allah supposedly commanded Muslims to kidnap, intercept, and slay pagans before the conquest of Mecca!!! You call this mercy? WOW Scary!
Let everyone that has ears hear it!