ISLAM is False, Mulhammad is false

[cthulhubryan]

save him from whom ?

Not from whom, but from what. The what being damnation caused by the fall of man. Of course, it helps to know the Truth of God to be saved from the temptations of the Devil. Too bad that Mahomet knew not the truth before being led astray.

 

[sedonaman]

An in-a-nutshell explanation why Islam and Mohammed are false: The Prophet Factory: A Tale of Poor Argumentation and Moral Inconsistency.

 

[planten]

Not from whom, but from what. The what being damnation caused by the fall of man. Of course, it helps to know the Truth of God to be saved from the temptations of the Devil. Too bad that Mahomet knew not the truth before being led astray.

**Yes, Muhammad did not know many things.

1. He did not know that The god can be tempted by Satan.
2. He did not know that Jesus was also tempted by the Satan.
3. He did not know that the God also prays to another God.
4. He did not know that a God dies also. That a God can die.
5. He did not know that the God had a father and the another God or same God had a son too. So he who was a son, was also the Father too, at the same time.
6. The son god was praying to the Father God in the Garden before arrest.
7. At the real time of distress, the son forgot the Father and yelled out to God as “O My God, O My God… Why have you forsaken me?” At that time the God was not addressed as the Father.
8. Muhammad believed that Jesus was never tempted by the devil. How bad !
9. Muhammad believed that the mother of Jesus (Mary) was also never tempted by the devil. How bad !
10. Muhammad believed that the disciples of Jesus did not forsake him.
11. Muhamamd believed that the disciples of Jesus gave pledge to stand by him all the time and they did so.

There are many things that perhaps Muhammad did not know and did not believe about jesus and his mother. Good-Bye. Blame Muhammad.**

 

[Jay53]

** There are many things that perhaps Muhammad did not know and did not believe about jesus and his mother. Good-Bye. Blame Muhammad.**

Your list is laughable and several points are blatantly false, hypno, but your last part is true - there were many things that Muhammad definitely did not know or believe about Jesus and His mother. He was led astray and, in turn, leads others astray through his false beliefs that he perpetuated through the Quran.

 

[Reuben_J]

**Yes, Muhammad did not know many things.

1. He did not know that The god can be tempted by Satan.
2. He did not know that Jesus was also tempted by the Satan.
3. He did not know that the God also prays to another God.
4. He did not know that a God dies also. That a God can die.
5. He did not know that the God had a father and the another God or same God had a son too. So he who was a son, was also the Father too, at the same time.
6. The son god was praying to the Father God in the Garden before arrest.
7. At the real time of distress, the son forgot the Father and yelled out to God as “O My God, O My God… Why have you forsaken me?” At that time the God was not addressed as the Father.
8. Muhammad believed that Jesus was never tempted by the devil. How bad !
9. Muhammad believed that the mother of Jesus (Mary) was also never tempted by the devil. How bad !
10. Muhammad believed that the disciples of Jesus did not forsake him.
11. Muhamamd believed that the disciples of Jesus gave pledge to stand by him all the time and they did so.

There are many things that perhaps Muhammad did not know and did not believe about jesus and his mother. Good-Bye. Blame Muhammad.**

How could he be a prophet if he was that stupid?

 

[cthulhubryan]

**Bill had started the thread : ISLAM is False, Mulhammad is false **

Quite interesting chain of threads. Jesus never said that Islam is false. It is a derived belief. Jesus warned his friends against false prophets. But Jesus never said that Muhammad will be false.

He did not have to do so. He warned of false prophets and also He knew the Holy scriptures which do talk about the coming of one like Mahomet.

He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers GEN 16:12

 

[sedonaman]

**Yes, Muhammad did not know many things.

1. He did not know that The god can be tempted by Satan.
2. He did not know that Jesus was also tempted by the Satan.
3. He did not know that the God also prays to another God.
4. He did not know that a God dies also. That a God can die.
5. He did not know that the God had a father and the another God or same God had a son too. So he who was a son, was also the Father too, at the same time.
6. The son god was praying to the Father God in the Garden before arrest.
7. At the real time of distress, the son forgot the Father and yelled out to God as “O My God, O My God… Why have you forsaken me?” At that time the God was not addressed as the Father.
8. Muhammad believed that Jesus was never tempted by the devil. How bad !
9. Muhammad believed that the mother of Jesus (Mary) was also never tempted by the devil. How bad !
10. Muhammad believed that the disciples of Jesus did not forsake him.
11. Muhamamd believed that the disciples of Jesus gave pledge to stand by him all the time and they did so.

There are many things that perhaps Muhammad did not know and did not believe about jesus and his mother. Good-Bye. Blame Muhammad.**

He didn’t know a lot of things about Jesus because Mohammed couldn’t read … he said so himself when the “angel” told him to “read!”

Why not blame Mohammed? He was responsible for 270,000,000 murders. What he did know for sure is that he could get more with a smile, a kind word, and a sword than he could with just a smile and a kind word.

 

[sedonaman]

**…
Jesus never said that Islam is false. It is a derived belief. Jesus warned his friends against false prophets. But Jesus never said that Muhammad will be false.
…
**

He never said that 2+2=4 either, since he didn’t find it necessary to mention the obvious.

 

[sedonaman]

How could he be a prophet if he was that stupid?

 

[planten]

How could he be a prophet if he was that stupid?

**And What would any one say about those:

1. Who have a god who prays to another god.
2. Who have a god and their god is tempted by the Satan. What a God !
3. Who have a god who dies.
4. Who have a god who goes to hell for three days.
5. Who have a god who has a father.
6. Who have a god who has a son.
7. Who say that even a one day born baby is a sinner.
8. Who have unmarried fathers and unmarried mothers (in the churches). Lot of them.
9. Who have a god who had some disciples. Those disciples must be the angels.
10. Who believe that those angels deserted their god in a difficult condition. All ran away.

I hope an honest opinion will be given for such people…**

 

[pismopal]

**And What would any one say about those:

1. Who have a god who prays to another god.
2. Who have a god and their god is tempted by the Satan. What a God !
3. Who have a god who dies.
4. Who have a god who goes to hell for three days.
5. Who have a god who has a father.
6. Who have a god who has a son.
7. Who say that even a one day born baby is a sinner.
8. Who have unmarried fathers and unmarried mothers (in the churches). Lot of them.
9. Who have a god who had some disciples. Those disciples must be the angels.
10. Who believe that those angels deserted their god in a difficult condition. All ran away.

I hope an honest opinion will be given for such people…**

And what would you say about a culture that has a "god’ who just coincidentally happens to "hate’ all the political enemies of that culture and a “god” who directs those people to attack…kill… and persecute those enemies without a whit of conscience?

 

[Jay53]

**And What would any one say about those:

1. Who have a god who prays to another god.
2. Who have a god and their god is tempted by the Satan. What a God !
3. Who have a god who dies.
4. Who have a god who goes to hell for three days.
5. Who have a god who has a father.
6. Who have a god who has a son.
7. Who say that even a one day born baby is a sinner.
8. Who have unmarried fathers and unmarried mothers (in the churches). Lot of them.
9. Who have a god who had some disciples. Those disciples must be the angels.
10. Who believe that those angels deserted their god in a difficult condition. All ran away.

I hope an honest opinion will be given for such people…**

Does this mean we have to give our opinion of you since you are the one who erroneously believes these things about Christians and Jesus?

I just have to say ‘Shame on you, planten’. :tsktsk: You have been here long enough to have had the beliefs of Christianity explained to you and you should know by now that they are not as you have posted them here. So, either you are being purposefully nasty or …

 

[Byzantine_Wolf]

So Planten, are you going to respond to anything on the front page rather than hijacking the topic of discussion?

 

[Hater_free]

“My beloved, do not trust every inspiration. Test the spirits to see whether they come from God, because many false prophets are now in the world. How will you recognize the spirit of God? Any spirit recognizing Jesus as the Christ who has taken our flesh is of God. But any spirit which does not recognize Jesus is not from God, it is the spirit of the antichrist. You have heard of his coming and even now he is in the world. You, my dear children, are of God and you have already overcome these people, because the one who is in you is more powerful than he who is in the world. They are of the world and the world inspires them. We are of God and those who know God listen to us, but those who are not of God ignore us. This is how we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error as well.” { 1 John 4:1-6}

Pretty self explanatory if you ask me. Hope this helps God bless!!!:heaven:

 

[planten]

Does this mean we have to give our opinion of you since you are the one who erroneously believes these things about Christians and Jesus?

I just have to say ‘Shame on you, planten’. :tsktsk: You have been here long enough to have had the beliefs of Christianity explained to you and you should know by now that they are not as you have posted them here. So, either you are being purposefully nasty or …

**Please correct what I had written point by point. If what I had written is not the belief of the christians (See the list I posted, 10 points) then please deny those things e.g. That you have a god who does not die, or his disciples did not desert Jesus. I will then refrain from any such belief which you have denied, by the words of the gospels. It will help me. Otherwise I will know that those are the beliefs of the christians.

I have nothing against jesus or his real teachings. I am trying to present things as I know you believe. You believe that God had a son. And that son is also God. Jay let us see what amendment or correction you suggest.

The best would be to present each one of my points and give your remarks and point my mistakes to me. I believe that Muhammad was not wrong about the christians. He was not false. His enemies are false.**.

 

[seraphime2008]

**Please correct what I had written point by point. If what I had written is not the belief of the christians (See the list I posted, 10 points) then please deny those things e.g. That you have a god who does not die, or his disciples did not desert Jesus. I will then refrain from any such belief which you have denied, by the words of the gospels. It will help me. Otherwise I will know that those are the beliefs of the christians.

I have nothing against jesus or his real teachings. I am trying to present things as I know you believe. You believe that God had a son. And that son is also God. Jay let us see what amendment or correction you suggest.

The best would be to present each one of my points and give your remarks and point my mistakes to me. I believe that Muhammad was not wrong about the christians. He was not false. His enemies are false.**.

Planten, I suppose you have to get some medication because it seems that after more than 3500 posts here, you haven’t learned any bit.

 

[Jay53]

**Please correct what I had written point by point. If what I had written is not the belief of the christians (See the list I posted, 10 points) then please deny those things e.g. That you have a god who does not die, or his disciples did not desert Jesus. I will then refrain from any such belief which you have denied, by the words of the gospels. It will help me. Otherwise I will know that those are the beliefs of the christians.

I have nothing against jesus or his real teachings. I am trying to present things as I know you believe. You believe that God had a son. And that son is also God. Jay let us see what amendment or correction you suggest.

The best would be to present each one of my points and give your remarks and point my mistakes to me. I believe that Muhammad was not wrong about the christians. He was not false. His enemies are false.**.

Sorry, you’ll have to start your own thread - or go back and read the threads where all of these points have been addressed. I have personally addressed the “Christians have a god that dies” fallacy because I remember discussing it with Sister Amy, who as a former Christian should have known better than to type such nonsense. This thread is about how Islam and Muhammad are false. You have yet to tell us in this and other threads how you know that Muhammad is from God (and how he is not false) when he contradicts previous scriptures given to us by God.

You say you have nothing against Jesus or His real teachings, yet you mock Him left and right - even in your “list”. Just for one point, Jesus taught us to baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Yet, you do not do that - you choose to believe Muhammad instead. I’m trying to figure out why?

 

[DeusVult09]

ofcourse islam is false. If anyone wants to learn about its dubious and plagiarised origins i suggest you read my thread

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=361136

 

[cthulhubryan]

**Yes, Muhammad did not know many things.

1. He did not know that The god can be tempted by Satan.
2. He did not know that Jesus was also tempted by the Satan.
3. He did not know that the God also prays to another God.
4. He did not know that a God dies also. That a God can die.
5. He did not know that the God had a father and the another God or same God had a son too. So he who was a son, was also the Father too, at the same time.
6. The son god was praying to the Father God in the Garden before arrest.
7. At the real time of distress, the son forgot the Father and yelled out to God as “O My God, O My God… Why have you forsaken me?” At that time the God was not addressed as the Father.
8. Muhammad believed that Jesus was never tempted by the devil. How bad !
9. Muhammad believed that the mother of Jesus (Mary) was also never tempted by the devil. How bad !
10. Muhammad believed that the disciples of Jesus did not forsake him.
11. Muhamamd believed that the disciples of Jesus gave pledge to stand by him all the time and they did so.

There are many things that perhaps Muhammad did not know and did not believe about jesus and his mother. Good-Bye. Blame Muhammad.**

Hmmm, well then Mahomet didn’t have the sense to understand “fully man, Fully God”
Mahomet didn’t understand the difference between flesh and spirit.
Mahomet didn’t understand that he was following the devil

 

[sedonaman]

Please correct what I had written point by point. ….

Why should we do that in this thread? It is off-topic and would be breaking the rules. You keep shifting topics to get us to spend time defending Christianity instead of showing why Islam and Mohammed are false.