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Byzantine_Wolf
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He’s admitted to never studying the Trinity.
Again, Planten, will you address the points brought forward on the first page?
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Again, Planten, will you address the points brought forward on the first page?
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Bill_Pick
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Planta, Jesus never said a true prophet would appear in the last days. Rather, He said false prophets would arise who would deceive, if possible, the very elect.
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SimonArizona
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Your name should be bill prick
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Bill_Pick
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Planta, Let me help you get this right non-cathloic and cathloic are all Christians, so let get this right. Our Lord Jesus Christ was killed Crcified by nailing or binling hand and feet to a cross, And He die on that cross,He did not live until the age of 123 thats just more garbage .
and not true,He did not go to India.
He was ressurrection on the 3 day and went to what you call hell…He is the Father and Son the Holy Spirit. Now you will not be able to believe thsi because of the murder you call muhannard,remember the guy that can not read.
So if you like to be a Christian we will love to have you,if not you can stop bashing christian at less you now your fact so now you know the truth you do not have to keep giving us your opinion all the time you can now gaving us FACTS
and not true,He did not go to India.
He was ressurrection on the 3 day and went to what you call hell…He is the Father and Son the Holy Spirit. Now you will not be able to believe thsi because of the murder you call muhannard,remember the guy that can not read.
So if you like to be a Christian we will love to have you,if not you can stop bashing christian at less you now your fact so now you know the truth you do not have to keep giving us your opinion all the time you can now gaving us FACTS
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Doxiemom
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somebody should clean up their language
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NoWings
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You do realize Arabic Christians call God “Allah” as well, right?
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ZAKI
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Byzantine_Wolf
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Oye, that reminds me of a terrible broadcast of Search the Scriptures with Dave Hunt, where he ranted in his usual rambling style about the word Allah. One of the things he said was Allah can’t be the name for God because you couldn’t find it used in the Old Testament. Well duh, why would you find an Arabic name for God in a book primarily written in Hebrew and Aramaic? 
That’d be like saying the Korean name for God isn’t legit because it’s not found in the New Testament.
That’d be like saying the Korean name for God isn’t legit because it’s not found in the New Testament.
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Louie1983
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Allah is the arabic word for god. If you want to say god in arabic it is allah.lol-dont worry some ppl here realize so little that it IS quite funny
wasalam
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Byzantine_Wolf
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IIRC, the Divine Liturgy in Arabic uses the word Allah many times.
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trdchubi
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Before islam the Arabs recognized many gods and goddesses, each tribe had their own deity. There were also nature deities. Allah was the god of the local Quarish tribe, which was mohammed’s tribe before he invented Islam to lead his people out of their polytheism. Allah was then known as the moon god, who had 3 daughters who were viewed as intercessors for the people into allah. Their names were al-at, a-uzza, and al-Manat, which were three goddesses; the first two daughters of allah had names which were feminine forms of allah.
The literal name of mohammed’s father in Arabic is Abd Allah. His uncle’s name Obred Allah. These names show the devotion of mohammed’s families pagan roots, and also prove that allah was part of a polytheistic system of worship before allah was made the supreme and only god from the other gods. This should be proof to the pre-islamic root of the name of allah to the muslim. Remember they were pagans who used this name. He kept his family name above all the other names. mohammad had good intentions in removing the people from their polytheistic worship however he did not go far enough in his reform.
The literal name of mohammed’s father in Arabic is Abd Allah. His uncle’s name Obred Allah. These names show the devotion of mohammed’s families pagan roots, and also prove that allah was part of a polytheistic system of worship before allah was made the supreme and only god from the other gods. This should be proof to the pre-islamic root of the name of allah to the muslim. Remember they were pagans who used this name. He kept his family name above all the other names. mohammad had good intentions in removing the people from their polytheistic worship however he did not go far enough in his reform.
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trdchubi
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When islam became the dominant political force people were coerced to use the name allah for God or suffer the consequences from the hands of militant muslims. Because of islam’s dominance allah became the common name of God. The translators of the Bible gave in to the religious pressures and substituted allah for Yahweh in the Arabic Bibles, but this is not the name of the God of the Hebrews, nor of the creator who made heaven and earth because of its source in paganism. His nature and attributes have only a few basic similarities and many more differences. And the most important point is that all through the qu’ran it says allah has no son.
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trdchubi
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Funny isn’t it that the same group of people who want us to use the name of their god are the same people who demands us from using it because of confusion. Now that’s funnylol-dont worry some ppl here realize so little that it IS quite funny
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A Malaysian newspaper is reporting that Christians in that Muslim nation are being banned from using the word “Allah.”
“We cannot let other religions use it because it will confuse people,” Malaysia’s Deputy Internal Security Minister, Johari Baharum, told the DNAIndia publication.
He said “only Muslims can use the word ‘Allah.’”
The issue erupted when a Catholic publication used the now-banned-for-Christians word.
Herald, the Catholic Church’s weekly newsletter, used the word and was warned it is at risk now of losing its publication permit.
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planten
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trdchubi, all your above three posts about Islam are wrong. You should know that Arabs had the God allah as the greatest God. But they had other gods besides Allah. So the new word of wisdom (Kalimah) was:
"There is no god except Allah. Muhammad is the messenger of Allah." So according to you, if allah was also not a single One God, then what was the sue of teaching such pagan ideas to the pagans? You said many wrong things about Islam and Muhammad. Those will be looked after soon.
The God. Allah, of Muhammad was the same God as that of Noah and Abraham and Moses and Jesus, the God of the unitarian faith. Please note.
The problem was that pagans were worshipping other gods besides Allah. Allah did not have other two assisting gods attached with Him as you have got two gods attached with the Father to complete a one Big God.
It appears that you are trying to give some relief to your pagan idea of Trinity by your posts about Islam. that is all wrong and useless. Allah was not any Trinity.
"There is no god except Allah. Muhammad is the messenger of Allah." So according to you, if allah was also not a single One God, then what was the sue of teaching such pagan ideas to the pagans? You said many wrong things about Islam and Muhammad. Those will be looked after soon.
The God. Allah, of Muhammad was the same God as that of Noah and Abraham and Moses and Jesus, the God of the unitarian faith. Please note.
The problem was that pagans were worshipping other gods besides Allah. Allah did not have other two assisting gods attached with Him as you have got two gods attached with the Father to complete a one Big God.
It appears that you are trying to give some relief to your pagan idea of Trinity by your posts about Islam. that is all wrong and useless. Allah was not any Trinity.
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Louie1983
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Thanks for the history lesson. But it doesn’t change the fact today that if i went to a middle eastern country and pronounced the word god in arabic it is allah! I’m a marounite catholic andhave been back to lebanon numerous times, the language today is God in arabic is pronounced allah.
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Hadi
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There were many Arab Jews and Christians who had the name “servant of Allah” in pre-Islamic Arabia like the Jewish Rabbi “Abdullah bin Salam”…
Did they also worship the “moon god” ??
Did they also worship the “moon god” ??
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Louie1983
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It is apparent from your comment here that your understanding of the christian faith is below par, quite bad actually. The catholic faith says that it is 1 god in 3 divine persons, not 3 gods making up 1 big god. There is nothing pagan about the idea of the trinity given that jesus mentioned the trinity when he said “go out to all nations and baptise them in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit”.
Many have tried to explain this to you in this thread but you continue to ignore it, typical.
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seraphime2008
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How do Arabs say those words put in red? Does it sound like " there’s no allah except Allah" then?
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trdchubi
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Mohammed used the name allah which was formerly the name of a specific idol without ever distinguishing it from the idol the Meccan’s were already worshipping. This was a modification of their former worship but never a complete break. He never did say for the people to stop their worship of the wrong allah, for the right one. It can still be monotheism and not be the God of the Bible who is the God of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob. The God of the Israelites.
Really!?! This god of yours should have said it in the first place. The God of the Bible identifies himself as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
The God in the Bible is called the God of the Jews, an impossibility with Allah. They are called his chosen people, but they are not Allah’s chosen. Allah commands the Muslim to not take the Jews or Christians as friends,
So how could Abraham, Moses and the Lord Jesus Christ even serve this fabricated god of yours. If this same god wants to annihilate the chosen people which they represents. Clearly he is not the same God of the Bible in my perspective.
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