Islam, Judaism, Jehovah Witness, Baptist Church -- do they believe in the same God as Catholics?

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Okay, thanks. It took Christians a long time to accept the idea of a ‘Judeo-Christian’ tradition, for a long time they were antagonistic towards Judaism. Eventually, Christians will overcome more ignorance and come around to accepting the idea of Islam as an Abrahamic religion.

This was in 2018; I think it was the third or fourth annual:

"Join us for this special Interfaith Thanksgiving service of the Abrahamic faiths. Now, more than ever, let us come together to meet others from a diverse background.

Speakers will include:
Rabbi David Kosak, Rev. Gregg Neel & Imam Abdulah Polovina
Everyone is welcome to attend

6:00pm: Refreshments
6:30pm: Worship Service
7:20pm: Buffet Dinner

Westminster Presbyterian Church
1624 NE Hancock, Portland OR

Please RSVP by November 15 to…etc"
 
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I believe – without reservation – that God (Exalted is He) is our Creator and Lord; who can be known with certainty, by the natural light of reason from created things; who is absolutely perfect; who is actually infinite in every perfection; who is absolutely simple; who is the True God, possessing an infinite power of cognition; who is absolute Veracity; who is absolutely faithful; who is absolute ontological Goodness in Himself and in relation to others; who is absolute Moral Goodness or Holiness; who is absolute Benignity; who is absolutely immutable; who is eternal and everywhere present in created space; whose knowledge is infinite; whose Attributes really are identical among themselves and with His Essence; who is omnipotent; who is Lord of the heavens and of the earth; who is infinitely just and infinitely merciful.

Can this be said of any other being?
 
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I believe – without reservation – that God (Exalted is He) is our Creator and Lord; who can be known with certainty, by the natural light of reason from created things; who is absolutely perfect; who is actually infinite in every perfection; who is absolutely simple; who is the True God, possessing an infinite power of cognition; who is absolute Veracity; who is absolutely faithful; who is absolute ontological Goodness in Himself and in relation to others; who is absolute Moral Goodness or Holiness; who is absolute Benignity; who is absolutely immutable; who is eternal and everywhere present in created space; whose knowledge is infinite; whose Attributes really are identical among themselves and with His Essence; who is omnipotent; who is Lord of the heavens and of the earth; who is infinitely just and infinitely merciful.

One last time: Can this be said of any other being (i.e, with the same degree of theological certainty)?
 
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Maybe. It took 4000 years for God to reveal Himself completely to man. We’ve got 70 years, 80 if we are strong to comprehend Him. I think it’s only natural that some of us can’t get beyond the stumbling block He told us would be a stumbling block.

But He’s the same God. Whether we comprehend Him as He wishes to be understood or not, He is the same; the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob is also the God of Ishmael.
 
The answer to my question is, of course, perfectly clear. The public declaration (profession) of faith that
I have made (twice) is a declaration of faith in the One True God; for the statements I made can be applied – with theological certainty – only to Him.

Father Tom Michel SJ wrote an article in the ‘CatholicNews’ (Archdiocese of Singapore). At the time of writing (2006) he was Ecumenical Secretary of the Federation of Asian Bishops’ Conferences and Secretary of the Jesuits for Interreligious Dialogue.

The article carries a foreword:

‘When Christians hear Muslims being called to prayer, they should be happy, for it is their God who is going to be worshipped and served, says Jesuit Father Tom Michel.

‘THE SECOND VATICAN COUNCIL teaches that Muslims “adore the one God, living and subsisting in himself; merciful and all-powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth, who has spoken to humans. They take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even God’s inscrutable decrees”.

‘Pope John Paul II has said the fact that Christians and Muslims worship “the One and same God” is a factor that draws the two communities together and lays the basis for love and cooperation between the two communities of believers.

The article admits that not everyone agrees (and how!)

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Father Mitchel addresses his readers using a question and answers format. I quote only those that are of immediate relevance to our conversation:

‘Q. Some Christians and Muslims question whether Allah and God are the same deity. Are they?

‘Allah is the name by which Muslims and Arab Christians have for centuries called upon the One God. Ancient inscriptions in the Arabian peninsula seem to indicate that Christians in Arabia already referred to God as “Allah” before the time of Muhammad.

‘The word Al-lah literally means “The God” and is the equivalent of ho theos , the Greek term used in the New Testament to refer to God. In Arabic translations of the Bible, the name Allah is always used to translate ho theos .

‘Over the centuries, Arab Muslims and Christians have disagreed over many issues, both religious and political, but they have never accused one another of worshipping different gods. Moreover, the people of Malta, an almost 100% Catholic country whose language is similar to Arabic, also call God “Allah”, even in the prayers of the Christian liturgy.

‘Q. Some Christians have objected that since Muslims’ understanding of God is not Trinitarian, how can the God of Muslims and Christians be one and the same?

‘One could ask the same question about the great figures of the Old Testament - Abraham, Moses, Isaiah or Jeremiah - whose understanding of God was not Trinitarian, or even of figures like John the Baptist and Mary in the New Testament.

‘They all worshipped the one God of “Abraham, Isaac and Jacob” and sought to do God’s will. It was only later Christian reflection that arrived at an understanding of the One God as Trinity.

‘Just as Christians would never claim that Abraham, Moses and John the Baptist worshipped a different God because they did not understand God’s Triune nature, so it would be wrong for a Christian to claim that Allah worshipped by Muslims is not the God of Christians.’

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‘Q. Does this mean that Christians and Muslims are simply saying the same thing in different words?

‘Not at all. Islam and Christianity are two different religions and have different teachings, and God is able to save both Muslim and Christian if they faithfully follow their respective paths. What it means, though, is that both are directing their attention and service and love toward the same merciful and compassionate God.

‘Kenneth Cragg, former Anglican archbishop of Jerusalem, used a grammatical image to describe the relationship between the Christian and Islamic understanding of God: “On the subject [God], we agree; on the predicates, we disagree.”

‘Q. What does it mean, practically speaking, that Muslims and Christians worship “the one and same God”?

‘It means, for one thing, that the two communities are not rivals or enemies.

‘When Christians hear Muslims being called to prayer, they should be happy, for it is their God who is going to be worshipped and served. When they see good Muslims performing the prayer, fasting in Ramadan, and doing good works like giving to the poor, Christians should praise God for the fact that so many of their Muslim sisters and brothers are doing God’s will.

‘Similarly, Muslims can regard Christians as fellow monotheists with whom they share some of the most basic orientations to life. ‘They need not regard Christians as kafirs (unbelievers) or mushriks (pagans).

‘Like Muslims, good Christians want to submit their lives to God. Jesus’ preaching revolved about the “kingdom of God” - that is, what a person’s life is like when God rules and governs every aspect of it.

‘Q. Isn’t there a deep point of contact between real submission, true Islam, and the commitment to accept God as the sovereign ruler of one’s life and destiny?

‘Is it this point of contact to which the Qur’an was perhaps referring when it stated: “And you will find that the closest in affection to those who believe (Muslims) are those who say, ‘We are Christians’, for among them are priests and monks, and they are not arrogant” (Qur’an 5:82).

‘The one God to whom we submit our lives wants all, Christian and Muslim, to reject arrogance and to come before him together, so that God can govern our societies according to his will.’

As you can see, the word ‘Muslims’ is capitalised, and placed in parenthesis. This means that it is a translator’s clarification or comment. There are no parentheses in the text itself.

I appreciate that you may find this article hard to stomach. With the greatest of respect, I am bound to say that any indigestion this causes is very much your own. I regret it, but can’t help you.

May the One God (Exalted is He) bless you, and bring you to Himself.
 
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No one is disagreeing with Thomistic metaphysics. We are disagreeing with your faulty, opposite-to-Church-teaching understanding of them.

Day after day on these forums I see how wise the Church is not to allow laity to interpret anything.
 
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