Islam plans to topple the Papacy

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For a minute, I thought this thread was about the Aer Lingus shipments of Guinness to the Vatican…

“Ireland planes to tipple the Papacy”
 
Maybe then Roman Catholics will join Anglicanism under the spiritual direction of the Archbishop of Canterbury who sits upon the Chair of St. Augustine (of Canterbury) and traces apostolic succession back to St. Augustine of Canterbury who was anointed by Pope St. Gregory the Great.

Of course, all jokes aside, Islam is gaining ground in Britain and the Church of England isn’t doing so well (Anglicanism, and much of Christianity in general, seems to be seeing its strongest surges in Africa and the developing world).
 
“When jihad becomes an individual duty, it applies to women too, because women do not differ from men when it comes to individual duties,” he said, calling Jews “the brothers of apes and pigs” who should “taste the bitterness of death.”

This is more worrying than any plans to topple the Papacy. The Church will survive any attack as God Himself is Her Defender. But Muslim hatred of Jews is very real and a stepping stone for world domination in the Muslim mind. To hear so-called moderate Muslims defend terrorist attacks on Israel is very enlightening of the true nature of Islam.
Well, speaking for this particular Jew, I have to say this - when I sit at my computer, day after day, reading the things that are said, thread after thread after thread, I hear ‘voices’.

They’re voices of an enemy far more dangerous, far more vicious, far more deadly than a few cranky Muslims ever will be - only this time they’re not turned against us, at least not yet.
 
The most important part of this should be for the European Union to deny Turkey from getting in. If they do Turks will be free to move themselves and their religion all over Europe on a single passport. One could say Norway was correct for not entering the Union, but then again…they are Lutheran, so they might as well be atheists if you look at their church attendence rate.🤷
 
After browsing through the web for Islamic/Christian debates, I came upon an article that I think every Catholic should read:

joelstrumpet.com/?p=1191#more-1191

I’m not trying to anger anyone, nor trying to cause hatred torward
Muslims, but I just thought that my RC bretheren should at least take a gander at this.

Any thoughts?

Pax.
Islam may topple Catholicism by default in the sense that they are more serious than are Catholics about having large families. From the news reports, it appears that many Catholics do not take their religion seriously when it comes to the teaching on artificial contraception.
 
Islam may topple Catholicism by default in the sense that they are more serious than are Catholics about having large families. From the news reports, it appears that many Catholics do not take their religion seriously when it comes to the teaching on artificial contraception.
So, what about the people of Turkey and the Islamic Republic of Iran who are below replacement rate?
 
Well, speaking for this particular Jew, I have to say this - when I sit at my computer, day after day, reading the things that are said, thread after thread after thread, I hear ‘voices’.

They’re voices of an enemy far more dangerous, far more vicious, far more deadly than a few cranky Muslims ever will be - only this time they’re not turned against us, at least not yet.
An enemy to the Jews or to the whole world? Maybe television? or rays coming out of computers? or rays from the street lights? or smog? air pollution? desertification of our civilized countries? or the climate changes? AIDS? or cancers of all kinds? or aliens? or all of the above? or none of them?
It seems to be linked to destructive conduct anyway!..
 
muslims intend to conquer the vatican through immigration and child births. thats what i call ‘passive aggression’. 😃
my brother,its not laughable but horrible.cuz truely muslims will capture Europ using western extrem democrasy.then both atheist&christians will force to obey the sharia law.if we wont obey then they will punish us according to islamic law.but unfortunately christians can’t guess this.
 
Islam plans to topple this and that sounds like communist talks. They all talked about ruling and toppling world’s government. See what happened?
 
Not again…

Didn’t you christians learn from the last time, barley 50 years have passed since christians in Germany started to talk in outrageous and intolerable ways about the jews, and look at the consequences 6 MILLION innocent jews killed…

You have got to STOP being so hate filled…

Second point, Overall if you look at history the biggest persecutor of Jews have been Christians, whether it be the Crusades or the Inquisition or the Pogroms in a whole host of European nations or even the Holocaust itself, White christians have killed more jews and treated them more poorly then MUSLIMS EVER EVER COULD.

**As a Muslim I have nothing against jews, if i meet a nice jewish person I will happily be his/her friend, I will gladly help him if he is in need or in trouble.

If the person is bad morally I will dislike him/her for those reasons not because they are Jewish…

On a personal/political level, as a Muslim I have very deep feelings of anger etc about what has happened in Palestine, I am against what has happened and always will be and support my brethren in Palestine.

This however does not lead me to hating jewish people

It is true over the last 50 years anti-semtism has increased as a result of what has happened in Palestine.

BUT have no doubt NOTHING Muslims have done to Jews can even come close to even comparing to the pain and slaughter christians have put them through**
 
that would not be so bad.Sad initially of course. The martyrdom of persons within the Church would only strengthen the church. wonderful!
Or maybe it would be the catylist for unity among Christians. Even better.
As an LCMS Lutheran, if the radical Muslims plan to topple Rome, they need to target St. Louis, too.
Jon
 
Not again…

Didn’t you christians learn from the last time, barley 50 years have passed since christians in Germany started to talk in outrageous and intolerable ways about the jews, and look at the consequences 6 MILLION innocent jews killed…

You have got to STOP being so hate filled…

Second point, Overall if you look at history the biggest persecutor of Jews have been Christians, whether it be the Crusades or the Inquisition or the Pogroms in a whole host of European nations or even the Holocaust itself, White christians have killed more jews and treated them more poorly then MUSLIMS EVER EVER COULD.

As a Muslim I have nothing against jews, if i meet a nice jewish person I will happily be his/her friend, I will gladly help him if he is in need or in trouble.

If the person is bad morally I will dislike him/her for those reasons not because they are Jewish…

On a personal/political level, as a Muslim I have very deep feelings of anger etc about what has happened in Palestine, I am against what has happened and always will be and support my brethren in Palestine.

This however does not lead me to hating jewish people

It is true over the last 50 years anti-semtism has increased as a result of what has happened in Palestine.

BUT have no doubt NOTHING Muslims have done to Jews can even come close to even comparing to the pain and slaughter christians have put them through
 
Trust me mate,

Too most of you guys there isnt a difference, Im sure Hitler said he was only against hat wearing jews. It all ends up in the same way if you allow hatred and intolerance to boil and fester.
 
Not again…

Didn’t you christians learn from the last time, barley 50 years have passed since christians in Germany started to talk in outrageous and intolerable ways about the jews, and look at the consequences 6 MILLION innocent jews killed…

You have got to STOP being so hate filled…

Second point, Overall if you look at history the biggest persecutor of Jews have been Christians, whether it be the Crusades or the Inquisition or the Pogroms in a whole host of European nations or even the Holocaust itself, White christians have killed more jews and treated them more poorly then MUSLIMS EVER EVER COULD.

**As a Muslim I have nothing against jews, if i meet a nice jewish person I will happily be his/her friend, I will gladly help him if he is in need or in trouble.

If the person is bad morally I will dislike him/her for those reasons not because they are Jewish…

On a personal/political level, as a Muslim I have very deep feelings of anger etc about what has happened in Palestine, I am against what has happened and always will be and support my brethren in Palestine.

This however does not lead me to hating jewish people

It is true over the last 50 years anti-semtism has increased as a result of what has happened in Palestine.

BUT have no doubt NOTHING Muslims have done to Jews can even come close to even comparing to the pain and slaughter christians have put them through**
First of all, it’s pretty ignorant to affront one Christian as if he represents the ENTIRETY of the Christian church. You talk about the holocaust that happened 50 years ago, but forget to mention the statistics that add up on the Islamic side of the tally:

Each year:

More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined.

More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland.

Islamic terrorists murder more people every day than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years.

and…

19 Muslim hijackers killed more innocents in two hours on September 11th than the number of American criminals executed in the last 65 years.

According to your same analysis of another religion… I would ask… Is Islam REALLY a religion of peace?

Two things happened in Iraq last week. A US soldier shot a discarded copy of the Qur’an, and al-Qaeda strapped explosives to an 8-year-old girl, killing more Iraqis in the name of Allah. Only one of these acts enraged Muslims. Do you know which one? (Hint: it wasn’t the little girl).

I’m not for mud slinging, but you’re unfairly accosting Adolf Hitler as an Orthodox Christian. You are very misinformed my friend. Hitler was no true follower of Christ, and if He was… The body count would be nonexistent.

“Fight those who do not believe in Allah, … nor follow
the religion of truth… until they pay the tax in acknowledg-ment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.”
Qur’an, Sura 9:29

(This doesn’t sound like the kind of thing a “religion of peace” would teach)

For this past month there were:
185 Jihad attacks
in 14 countries
against 5 religions
with 943 left dead and 1223 critically injured

As I’ve said before, I’m not for mud slinging, but the numbers speak for themselves. And by the way… NO Christian considers Adolf Hitler a fellow brother in the faith.
In conclusion, I would say that people have done some ridiculous and horrendous things in the name of Jesus Christ throughout History. But Christ never taught us to “Fight those who do not believe in Allah, … nor follow the religion of truth…” as stated in Sura 9:29. He taught us to love our fellow bretheren, whomever they may be. 👍

In Nomine Patri, et Filii et Spiritus Sanctii. Amen.
 
Trust me mate,

Too most of you guys there isnt a difference, Im sure Hitler said he was only against hat wearing jews. It all ends up in the same way if you allow hatred and intolerance to boil and fester.
This is why you must remove from the Koran the verses that promote violence and religious intolerance. 🙂
 
Mostly your blowing hot air…

Christians killed 6 MILLION JEWS it was a holocaust.

In Vietnam you killed 300,000 Vietnamese, DROPPED AGENT ORANGE on thousands of innocents, raped and sexually abused vulnerable Vietnamese girls and women.

was Korea any better.

There have been massive GENOCIDES AND HOLOCAUSTS against native populations by christians in North America, South America, Africa, Asia, Australasia and even Europe itself.

You lied about WWMD’s and went to iraq and the turmoil which has resulted because of your lies and lust for war has killed hundreds of thousands more people…

Dont get me started on this HISTORY PROVES ME RIGHT, and if you open a history book you will see your people soaked in the blood of millions of innocents
 
Mostly your blowing hot air…

Christians killed 6 MILLION JEWS it was a holocaust.

In Vietnam you killed 300,000 Vietnamese, DROPPED AGENT ORANGE on thousands of innocents, raped and sexually abused vulnerable Vietnamese girls and women.

was Korea any better.

There have been massive GENOCIDES AND HOLOCAUSTS against native populations by christians in North America, South America, Africa, Asia, Australasia and even Europe itself.

You lied about WWMD’s and went to iraq and the turmoil which has resulted because of your lies and lust for war has killed hundreds of thousands more people…

Dont get me started on this HISTORY PROVES ME RIGHT, and if you open a history book you will see your people soaked in the blood of millions of innocents
The lies about the WMDs were not done in Christ’s name, neither was the U.S invasion of Vietnam. Hitler was decidedly secular by the time he committed his atrocities and 3 million Catholics were sent to their deaths in the camps for protecting their Jewish compatriots, their Roma brethren, among others.

Please, rayaan, you have confused the actions of governments with the actions of the people.
 
Mostly your blowing hot air…

You lied about WWMD’s and went to iraq and the turmoil which has resulted because of your lies and lust for war has killed hundreds of thousands more people…
You’re right. Sadaam never used wmd’s against Iran or the Kurds. :rolleyes: And the claim that hundreds of thousandshave died in Iraq these last 5 years is donkey droppings.

But let’s be frank, we all have ancestors who have committed horrible acts against our fellow man. When and where will it stop?
(That’s a rhetorical question)
Jon
 
Im not denying it was not done in Christs name…

What I am saying is that you guys can easily read history book’s you can easily look at hat has happened and how Christian people have been involved in horrendous acts of genocide and violence…

This is a human crime, what i find annoying is that people who’s history is filled with violence and intolerance and butchery, so readily point fingers at Muslims…

Its like you forget your own history and will try to use every little thing to attack Muslims, some UNKNOWN individual makes a comment about invading Rome and BOOM christians go off on a tangent and out comes the hate speech and propaganda…

(if it makes you feel any better the muslim conservatives are exactly the same and will use any excuse to demonise you), but if you insist on being the same then don’t act as if your better or purer.
 
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