Islam: Truth and Myth

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“No they were not Christian. They were what they have always been, American. I know this is a strange concept to you but we do not have a state religion. Our military is Christian, Jew, Muslim, Atheist, anamist maybe even some Hindu and Bhuddist.”

Well i can say the same . These people fighting you are People who are angry because you occupied their countries, helped their dictators and suported others occupy their countries.I wonder why you always put Islam in this ?!!

American soldiers fought in vuietnam an unprovoked war with a majority of christians who loved to wipe out the communissts!!. Never did the bible tell them that these people who are burning their skin with napalm are humans who never did them harm and never attacked them ?!!

Just couple of days ago Pat robertson Just wanted to KILL Chjavez because he is a communist or socialist . i wonder what Chavez ever did to this guy !!! I knwo he isnt a catholic but By measuring you relating everything to Islam then i guess i can easily reate him to christianity !!!

Where was the christian love when 3 millions lost their lives in vietnam for nothing !!! Why was it nearly ONLY the liberals who stood against the war!!

If you can wage war or initiate war and say this isnt about christianity then dont expect people to believe you when you have a Humvy blown up in Occupied Iraq and then accuse the “Islamic” terorism !!!

If you can give Israel all the weapons and technology to help it keep occupying the Biblical land in order to have Jesus come when the Jews are all there in this land then dont be upset when People attack you in the name of whatever reliogion of the opressed people of the land !!! You and your allies !!

We all know how christians in america are using Jews in order to have Jesus decsend down to them and probably they are rendered useless afterwards. The funny thing is that even Jews know that !!

If my religion teaches killing in defence then you should investigate weather yours teaches indifference to aggression!!!

Still i feal there can be

Peace
 
“Since you started the brick throwing, if you are in a war why don’t Muslims fight like men? Terrorism is a cowards way of fighting and in todays world Islam sems to have captured the market in terrorism. If you think the land of Israel belongs to you why not declare war on Israel and if God is on your side you will win according to your religion. Has America always been right? No, but we have tried to learn from our mistakes and in most cases we have. Egypt is one of the oldest countries in the world, you have had a long time to prefect you government and way of life, you have a lot of natural resources. Has Egypt in it’s whole 5000 year history given as much to charity and other nations as America has in the past 100 years/ I suggest you keep some of the bricks you don’t like to throw and start building yourself a better country. We have never been a nation of ‘empire’ builders.”"

Well muslims fight like men but they arent stupid and they dont hide in humveys while the Iraqi new trained soldiers are left bare .

Do u knwo that the americans hid behind some donkey riding militias in afghanistan lol. Tough men huh . I even saw american cartoons about it !!!

And we are not terrorists .Terorists are the people who do injustice to other people. Simple . The guy that defgends his country againts occupation in Iraq isnt terorist . And why did your defence minister shake hands with a dictator is your country is so innocent ?!

“If you think the land of Israel belongs to you why not declare war on Israel and if God is on your side you will win according to your religion”

Because we must exchast peaceful soloutions first and thats how Our God ordered us to do that . And we will persue it till the end !

Wel i am glad you learned from your mistakes now can you please rectify the mistakes that you did on OUR soils?

I dont knwo hwo much charity we gave along history but yes i think we did much more than america did .

I am not throwing briks and i am not teh one who called your religion terrorist !!!

Still there can be peace

salam
 
meedo,
There is none so blind as he who will not see. Your hatred for America is showing so there is no further reason for me to dialog with you. You don’t believe in Christianity and I don 't believe in Islam. Neither of us is going to change. Just for the record, I think anyone who straps a bomb to himself and blows it up on a bus or in a mall or flies a plane into a building is a coward and is going to hell.
 
“meedo,
There is none so blind as he who will not see.”

True

“Your hatred for America is showing so there is no further reason for me to dialog with you.”"

I dont hate america as people but i hate its forign policy that is hypocritical and self serving and you dont represent america , there are many people who understand the mess that their government done in the world . And you wont be able to Hijack them . There is no single reason for any sane person to hate for the sake of hate ,i dont believe you can do it and i dont believe that i am doing it Either .

"You don’t believe in Christianity and I don 't believe in Islam. Neither of us is going to change. "

Well then lets not start calling our religion names .

“Just for the record, I think anyone who straps a bomb to himself and blows it up on a bus or in a mall or flies a plane into a building is a coward and is going to hell.”"

Me too. But i also think that the foreign policy that can drive this miserable person to such foolish act is also totally non ethical and hypocritical and selfish .

You dont represent american people to me.

salam
 
meedo said:
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I dont knwo hwo much charity we gave along history but yes i think we did much more than america did .
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Really? Whenever there’s any disaster anywhere in the world, the U.S. is the first to send help, so don’t give me any of that!

I’ve never heard of any Muslim philanthropists and most of your so-called “Muslim charities” which are supposed to collect money for people in need, use the money instead to finance terrorism!
 
meedo said:
"meedo,

Me too. But i also think that the foreign policy that can drive this miserable person to such foolish act is also totally non ethical and hypocritical and selfish .

salam
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Give me a break! Don’t blame us for the fact that people in Arabic countries are still living in the 12th century!
 
meedo said:
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“If you think the land of Israel belongs to you why not declare war on Israel and if God is on your side you will win according to your religion”

Because we must exchast peaceful soloutions first and thats how Our God ordered us to do that . And we will persue it till the end !

I
salam
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Suicide bombers are peaceful? When has Islam ever in it’s history persued a peacful resolution to anything?
 
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Matt25:
It means both peace and submission. A Muslim being one who submits to God.
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Matt it does not mean peace, but submission.

It comes from the same root word as salaam, which is peace.

However peace is only ever attained after submission.

Submission of muslims to Allah.

Submission of Non-muslims to muslims, and indirectly Allah.

Peace
 
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Booklover:
Give me a break! Don’t blame us for the fact that people in Arabic countries are still living in the 12th century!
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and i suppose you are the ones who’re supposed to usher them into the “modern” world, right? :rolleyes:
 
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Matt25:
The word Islam shares the same root as the word Salaam meaning “Peace”, see islam.about.com/blintroa.htm hence those who say Islam is a religion of peace have a good case.

It amuses me no end that those who insist that Islam is a violent religion that justifies terrorism are often the same people that say Christianity is a religion of peace that justifies nuking Hiroshima and/or pre-emptively invading Iraq.
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Justifies? Those actions were taken by a State completely seperated from Christianity (legally I mean). Many if not all Christians regret that those event occured.

Peace unto you.
 
Colonialism
Bringing people who dont own the land to palestine
Support for dicatorships

Thats three mistakes

" When has Islam ever in it’s history persued a peacful resolution to anything?"

may be when the crusaders were spared and not killed after their Massacres of muslim Civilians when they entered Jerusalem.

may be bieng a lighthouse for the dark ages europe !

May be not forcing Islam on people or else they would get kicked out or killed . Just as the Inquisition did?

Peace
 
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meedo:
Colonialism
Bringing people who dont own the land to palestine
Support for dicatorships

Thats three mistakes

" When has Islam ever in it’s history persued a peacful resolution to anything?"

may be when the crusaders were spared and not killed after their Massacres of muslim Civilians when they entered Jerusalem.

may be bieng a lighthouse for the dark ages europe !

May be not forcing Islam on people or else they would get kicked out or killed . Just as the Inquisition did?

Peace
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  1. The US has never had a colony anywhere, much less the middle east.
  2. The Us did not bring the Jews to Israel.
Not slaughter the crusaders like in Acre?

Islam is a violent false religion, IMO.
 
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Matt25:
What on earth are you talking about?
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Expressing that is the same the action of western goverments and the action of islamic terrorism and countries that kill in the name of islam, is saying that two different things are the same, when they aren´t.
This is relativism.
Greetings
 
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Franze:
Expressing that is the same the action of western goverments and the action of islamic terrorism and countries that kill in the name of islam, is saying that two different things are the same, when they aren´t.
This is relativism.
Greetings
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Actually I said no such thing.
 
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Matt25:
Actually I said no such thing.
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And what have you said Matt25, I know you have a good heart and you are a good catholic, but the comparations you have done, bother a lot.
 
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