Islamic Religion and the Blessed Mother

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Jermin Savory ------See Post #40:
In the name of Allah

Eurasian: Aside from Adam and Eve, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT MUSLIMS KNOW WHO WAS BORN OF A VIRGIN MOTHER WITHOUT A HUMAN FATHER.

**Jermin Savory: **Mary (P) the Mother of Jesus (P) is the only example in the Qur’an that I know of getting pregnant without a man and giving birth.
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Jermin Savory

Thanks for your answer Jermin. We’ll try to see what the answers of other people more knowledgeable than us might be.
I see that Muslims have a prophet they call “MUSA”. IS MUSA THE PROPHET “MOSES” TO WHOM GOD GAVE THE 10 COMMANDMENTS?
 
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Eurasian**: I see that Muslims have a prophet they call “MUSA”. IS MUSA THE PROPHET “MOSES” TO WHOM GOD GAVE THE 10 COMMANDMENTS?

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Jermin Savory:** Yes, thats correct.
 
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Mugenone, you are correct, we don’t, As Muslims, we don’t believe that Jesus (P) os God. For the simple fact that he was created. We don’t believe in Jesus (P) as the son of God, because he was Just a Prophet (P). He may be the son of God in the rightous sense but not literally. You are also right that we don’t believe that he was crucified, even the Bible, if read properly, will confirm this fact.
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Jermin,

If Jesus didn’t have a biological father because of the Virgin birth, who then was his father?

Pio
 
Jermin Savory ------See Post #42:
In the name of Allah

Eurasian: I see that Muslims have a prophet they call “MUSA”. IS MUSA THE PROPHET “MOSES” TO WHOM GOD GAVE THE 10 COMMANDMENTS?

Jermin Savory: Yes, thats correct.
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To Muslims, Did God appear to Musa(Moses) in the form of a BURNING BUSH THAT WAS NOT CONSUMED BY THE FIRE?
 
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Fuzzbunny: How does the Bible confirm this?

Jermin Savory: I believe this would not be the appropriate thread for this topic. However, if you’d like we can start another topic on the Crucifixion. But in short, the bible doesn’t agree to (If read properly) the Myth that Jesus *(P) was crucified. The “crucifixion” of Jesus is no more than a myth believed and accepted by the vast which is the equivalent of Children believeing for hundreds of years that santa clause exist. If anyone disagree with me, please, I stand for correction.
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Actually, I’d like to see a thread on that. Sounds very interesting. I finished “The Case for Christ” and the evidence that he did die and there was no time for myth seems pretty compelling, I’d like to the other side.
 
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FuzzyBunny116: Actually, I’d like to see a thread on that. Sounds very interesting. I finished “The Case for Christ” and the evidence that he did die and there was no time for myth seems pretty compelling, I’d like to the other side.

Jermin Savory: Evidence that he did die? Someone has shown you evidence that he did died? Sounds good, I would love to see your evidence of the “death” of Christ. (P) Why don’t you start a thread, titled “Case for Christ.”? Then we’ll examine the evidence.
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                        **    Surah AN-NISA 4:157**
"And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the apostle of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure. "
 
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hlgomez:
Jermin,

If Jesus didn’t have a biological father because of the Virgin birth, who then was his father?

Pio
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Hello HLGomez,

The Quran says:

“The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam;
He created him from dust, then said to him: “Be”. And he was.”
Quran(3:59)

Jesus had no father.

Munawar
 
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To Muslims, Did God appear to Musa(Moses) in the form of a BURNING BUSH THAT WAS NOT CONSUMED BY THE FIRE?
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Hi Eurasian,

Yes, God spoke to Musa at the burning bush. We dont believe he was the burning bush, rather spoke there.

Munawar
 
Hello HLGomez,
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The Quran says:
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“The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam;
He created him from dust, then said to him: “Be”. And he was.”
Quran(3:59)
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Jesus had no father.
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Munawar
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But Adam was not born of virgin birth, was he?

Didn’t you see the word “Be”? When Allah (God) spoke, it was the Word of God–Jesus–eternal Word made flesh. Not created.

Pio
 
Munawar -----See Post # 49:
Hi Eurasian,

Yes, God spoke to Musa at the burning bush. We dont believe he was the burning bush, rather spoke there.

Munawar
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Munawar

So what you are sayin is that Musa (Moses) knew that he was talking to God BECAUSE MUSA HEARD SOMEBODY TALKING TO HIM AND NOT BECAUSE OF THAT STRANGE BUSH WHICH JUST BURNED AND BURNED AND BURNED WITHOUT THE BUSH TURNING INTO ASHES AND SMOKE.
 
In the name of Allah

hlgomez: If Jesus didn’t have a biological father because of the Virgin birth, who then was his father?

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Jermin Savory:** Jesus (P) had no father, he was created by the Mighty command of Allah “Be” and he was. He was created by the creator.

Surah Imran 3:45

"When the angels said: O Marium, surely Allah gives you good news with a Word from Him (of one) whose name is the '. Messiah, Isa son of Marium, worthy of regard in this world and the hereafter and of those who are made near (to Allah). "

Surah Imran 3:59

“Surely the likeness of Isa is with Allah as the likeness of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, Be, and he was.”
 
"When the angels said: O Marium, surely Allah gives you good news with a Word from Him (of one) whose name is the '. Messiah, Isa son of Marium, worthy of regard in this world and the hereafter and of those who are made near (to Allah). "

Surah Imran 3:59

“Surely the likeness of Isa is with Allah as the likeness of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, Be, and he was.”
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John 1:1-5

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came to be through him, and without him nothing came to be. What came to be through him was life, and this life was the light of the human race; the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

Philippians 2:5-11

**Have among yourselves the same attitude that is also yours in Christ Jesus, Who, though he was in the form of God, did not regard equality with God something to be grasped. Rather, he emptied himself, taking the form of a slave, coming in human likeness; and found human in appearance, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, even death on a cross. Because of this, God greatly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bend, of those in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. **

Pio
 
1 John (first chapter)

**What was from the beginning, what we have heard, what we have seen with our eyes, what we looked upon and touched with our hands concerns the Word of life-- for the life was made visible; we have seen it and testify to it and proclaim to you the eternal life that was with the Father and was made visible to us-- what we have seen and heard we proclaim now to you, so that you too may have fellowship with us; for our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ. **

**We are writing this so that our joy may be complete. Now this is the message that we have heard from him and proclaim to you: God is light, 2 and in him there is no darkness at all. **

**If we say, “We have fellowship with him,” while we continue to walk in darkness, we lie and do not act in truth. But if we walk in the light as he is in the light, then we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of his Son Jesus cleanses us from all sin. **

If we say, “We are without sin,” we deceive ourselves, 3 and the truth is not in us. If we acknowledge our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from every wrongdoing. If we say, “We have not sinned,” we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Pio
 
John 1: 6-14
**** **He was in the world, and the world came to be through him, but the world did not know him. He came to what was his own, but his own people did not accept him. **
**But to those who did accept him he gave power to become children of God, to those who believe in his name, who were born not by natural generation nor by human choice nor by a man’s decision but of God. ** **And the Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us, and we saw his glory, the glory as of the Father’s only Son, full of grace and truth. **
Pio
 
In the name of Allah

With the fast pace of replies that are being pasted on this very highly populated forum, there is no way I can’t respond to all of the verses that you are giving. This is no way to debate or discuss, this is the tactic in which people use to over power a discussion. The verses that you’ve posted all call for a logical explanation that I have but due to the fast pace of this thread, my response isn’t possible. Afterall how would you feel if I go to the internet and literally dump tons and tons of information onto this thread? That wouldn’t be nice would it? No. So please can we discuss from our own minds, a few verses may be necessary but not more than 5 or 10 verses.
 
Munawar, Jermin

From the Muslim point of view, VISUALLY, with the eyes, has anybody ever seen God?
 
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The Eurasian:** Jermin From the Muslim point of view, VISUALLY, with the eyes, has anybody ever seen God?

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Jermin Savory:** Our eyes cannot see God, however we can witness with out own eyes His very own creation and thus conclude that He is Most Powerful and All Wise.
 
In the name of Allah

The Eurasian: Do you know where God is?

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Jermin Savory:**

Surah QAF 50:16

"It was We Who created man, and We know what dark suggestions his soul makes to him: for We are nearer to him than (his) jugular vein. "

The Eurasian: Do you know where God is?
 
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