Islam's Conception of God

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pro_universal said:
I can think of few theological arguments more absurd than arguments about the linguistic and grammatical style of a foreign language which neither party reads.

Try reading shakespeare sometime: there’s the “royal we” and third person references to the self in there too. “We” isn’t just used for the majestic singular in Arabic; it’s also used in English and other European languages.

The Islamic conception of God is very straightforward, and, in my opinion, discourages the kind of useless theological speculation that gave Christians centuries of warfare over the trinity.
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the royal we is a late human invention. The useless theological speculations dear Pro were started by Jews who were puzzled by the use of “we” .
 
So far, Joseph’s arguments have been sticking to my Muslim Trinity pretty well…
 
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So far, Joseph’s arguments have been sticking to my Muslim Trinity pretty well…
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Muslim trinity! lol.
Good Exoflare; at least my arguments have served something:)

Salaam.
Joseph.
 
exoflare said:
No, the “Muslim trinity” I posted earlier in this thread… 😃
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You mean this?
exoflare said:
The Quran is from God?
“Yes, because Mohammed said so.”

Why would you believe him?
“He is Allah’s prophet.”

Why do you think Mohammed was a prophet?
“Allah tells us in the Quran.” (repeat question 1, continue ad nauseum)
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Premise as conclusion, conclusion as premise… I’ve debated many people who use this kinda type of analysis (not just religious debates). It gets people nowhere. Like the chicken-egg dilemma… Hehe! Can anybody find a better loop?
 
Joseph_Alison said:
Salaam Tomster;

Muslims would never, ever dare to say something about God which He did not reveal Himself. It is all in the Qur’an and the Hadiths (sayings) of the Prophet (PBUH).

Salaam.
Joseph.
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Shalom Joseph,

How do you know the Hadiths are true?
And more specifically, how do you know which are and which aren’'t? Isn’t there a dispute amongst sunni and shi’ite muslims about Hadiths too?

Pax tecum.
 
ssejllenrad said:
You mean this?

Premise as conclusion, conclusion as premise… I’ve debated many people who use this kinda type of analysis (not just religious debates). It gets people nowhere. Like the chicken-egg dilemma… Hehe! Can anybody find a better loop?
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And Al-lah swears by the Koran, (it says so) so it must be good!
 
eleonardo said:
Joseph,

How do you know the Hadiths are true?
And more specifically, how do you know which are and which aren’'t? Isn’t there a dispute amongst sunni and shi’ite muslims about Hadiths too?
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They have ‘strong’ and ‘weak’ Hadiths. And a so-called ‘science’ of Hadith.

The interesting thins is that the Shi’a recognise that the promise of Mut’a (temporary marriage) is still active, as it was never abrogated in the Koran (Sunni apologists are quick to point to a verse in the Koran that has nothing to do with Mut’a and pretend that this covers it).
 
eleonardo said:
Shalom Joseph,
How do you know the Hadiths are true?
And more specifically, how do you know which are and which aren’'t? Isn’t there a dispute amongst sunni and shi’ite muslims about Hadiths too?
Pax tecum.
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All the ones used by polemics to distort Islam aren’t.😉

Salaam.
Joseph.
 
Joseph_Alison said:
Did he need to have one? Adam did not have one, nor did Eve.
Joseph.
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And Christians think of Jesus as the “New Adam”, but let’s not dwell on what Christians think, I’m asking you, who was Jesus’ father?
 
Joseph_Alison said:
All the ones used by polemics to distort Islam aren’t.😉

Salaam.
Joseph.
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Like I said before, the way you have been limiting your answers to pure sarcasm lately just indicates you have no real answers. Do you think people are just going to forget that quickly?
 
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